Blood_Sacrifice Posted November 30, 2012 #151 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) God is God. People just perceive him differently. There are some differences between how Muslims and Christians perceive their given God, but I think they are both talking about the same entity. Edited November 30, 2012 by Blood_Sacrifice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhaten-pasheri Posted November 30, 2012 #152 Share Posted November 30, 2012 They are the same entity, the same false god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt60 Posted November 30, 2012 #153 Share Posted November 30, 2012 dern it...! forgot the person's name up there! the one who said Allah was a/the moon god...that's what I read also...I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 30, 2012 #154 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The most convenient aspect of this discussion is that if people can disagree and everyone find logical reasons to say the whole concept of a god is flawed then they never have to accept being told what to do or risk being judged when they fail to do so. Believers - ALL believers, regardless who they choose as god - at least are willing to admit there is a power greater than themselves. If a god asks you to harm then it is evil. If it asks you to forgive and love your enemy, I'd say that's the God I want to follow the best I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Pockets Posted December 3, 2012 #155 Share Posted December 3, 2012 dern it...! forgot the person's name up there! the one who said Allah was a/the moon god...that's what I read also...I agree with that. Surah Fussilat Ayaat 37. And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Pockets Posted December 3, 2012 #156 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm sure there is a mosque nearby where many of you live. Do try to visit it and find an answer instead of shooting around " I think" and " my opinion is " so freely with such topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaniac Posted December 3, 2012 #157 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Supposedly, Allah is the same God that wrote the Bible. Muslims and Christians also supposedly serve the same God, but we don't. True Christian's haven't put anyone to death in years. Edited December 3, 2012 by Insaniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted December 3, 2012 #158 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Supposedly, Allah is the same God that wrote the Bible. Muslims and Christians also supposedly serve the same God, but we don't. True Christian's haven't put anyone to death in years. What or who is a true Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaniac Posted December 3, 2012 #159 Share Posted December 3, 2012 What or who is a true Christian? Somebody who: A: Continues to do what Christ assigned us to do, which is preach God's Word door to door. ~ Matthew 24: 3-14 B: Studies God's Word/Law, the Bible. ~ 2 Timothy 2:15 C: Doesn't worship symbols, like the cross. Jesus told us Himself not to worship Idols. ~ Acts 17:29-30 D: Undergoes an immersion baptism, as God wants us to choose to serve Him. E: Practises what is good in Jehovah's eyes. ~ Psalm 1:1-3 F: Cultivates fruitage of the Spirit: Selfless Love, Long-Suffering, Peace, Kindness, Self-Control, Goodness, Joy, Faith, Mildness. For against such things, there is no law. ~ Galatian's 5: 22-26 I think there are more, but they're some of the most important indications. I'm being taught by the Jehovah's Witnesses, myself. Peace and take care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted December 4, 2012 #160 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Somebody who: A: Continues to do what Christ assigned us to do, which is preach God's Word door to door. ~ Matthew 24: 3-14 B: Studies God's Word/Law, the Bible. ~ 2 Timothy 2:15 C: Doesn't worship symbols, like the cross. Jesus told us Himself not to worship Idols. ~ Acts 17:29-30 D: Undergoes an immersion baptism, as God wants us to choose to serve Him. E: Practises what is good in Jehovah's eyes. ~ Psalm 1:1-3 F: Cultivates fruitage of the Spirit: Selfless Love, Long-Suffering, Peace, Kindness, Self-Control, Goodness, Joy, Faith, Mildness. For against such things, there is no law. ~ Galatian's 5: 22-26 I think there are more, but they're some of the most important indications. I'm being taught by the Jehovah's Witnesses, myself. Peace and take care. I appriciate your answer however I dissagree that we worship different gods. But, then, as I always say, you are right in your belief and I am right in my belief. The differences should point out our commonalities rather then our differentiations. You too take care. Thanks again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted December 4, 2012 #161 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Good God! Get over it already. It's not "which God came first" or whatever, rather it's what doctrine believers subscribe to. Which, by the way, can be very much different amongst religious believers proclaiming the same God. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritWriter Posted December 4, 2012 #162 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Good God! Get over it already. It's not "which God came first" or whatever, rather it's what doctrine believers subscribe to. Which, by the way, can be very much different amongst religious believers proclaiming the same God. I know right.... so easy to see..... Yes Allah is the same God as the God of the Bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C235 Posted December 4, 2012 #163 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Allah means God in arabic, as simple as that & its not a name to begin with. 11 page?! for that? Wow! no wonder we are still stuck on earth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted December 5, 2012 #164 Share Posted December 5, 2012 no they're not , if we were to say is " the father " in bible is same as allah it would be more true since god idenity in bible is not exact on who exactly is god or at least some people make it hard to idenify but giving the describtions of the " father " in the bible they nearly match with allah in islam if not perfectly match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion6969 Posted December 8, 2012 #165 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Omg!!!! Not the moon god = Allah theory again! This tripe has long been destroyed by academics and historians! The two Christian missionaries that perpetuated the tripe were ridiculed along with those who later used their material in their own works. Come on do I really have to come destroy this amateurish effort......or will people actually do some real research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted December 8, 2012 #166 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Omg!!!! Not the moon god = Allah theory again! This tripe has long been destroyed by academics and historians! The two Christian missionaries that perpetuated the tripe were ridiculed along with those who later used their material in their own works. Come on do I really have to come destroy this amateurish effort......or will people actually do some real research? you mean the people who claim allah who had daughter and sons bla bla bla moon god ? i saw one time a person here who said that is the same allah honestly i didn't feel it was worth it to reply to it however the compare between god in the bible and allah is quite different and if we were to take the father alone and compare it with allah qualities they quite match but not the son .. nor the holy spirit have place in that compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Unicorn Posted December 8, 2012 #167 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) It's possible that there are three religions because there are many different people in the world - the Torah for some, the Bible for others, the Koran for more yet. Everyone's road to the destination is their own, but the map was written by the same hand. Allah is a name meaning the highest, cause of all causes, and also the Eternal One as far as I can tell. Abraham is the connector of the 3 religions holy books. The different prophets of the different cultures caused the creation of religious sects which are an interpretating the same God but adding human opinions and their own culture to the "map". Edited December 8, 2012 by White Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Unicorn Posted December 8, 2012 #168 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Well if Allah most wonderful and splendorifical is the God of the OT, the God of the Jews, why did it take him 3 religions to get it right? Him being all omni-everything, he should have knocked that out of the park first try right? Why a need for another religion for this God and another, does this God not realize wars are going to be over what he didn't get right and set forth in the first try, Jews against Muslims, Christians against Muslims, etc? Probably the same reason the God of the Bible, Koran, etc had the Noah flood. People have to get the main message right which is basically the golden rule when you have free will. The punishment is destruction and not having peace until they get it right. The time in between is a grace period where you get His mercy if you turn from the evil in the world. All three of these religions also have that as a common thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrowMax Posted December 13, 2012 #169 Share Posted December 13, 2012 There Allah is the same to our god the father...There is only one God..They were all same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenWolf Posted December 13, 2012 #170 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Probably the same reason the God of the Bible, Koran, etc had the Noah flood. People have to get the main message right which is basically the golden rule when you have free will. The punishment is destruction and not having peace until they get it right. The time in between is a grace period where you get His mercy if you turn from the evil in the world. All three of these religions also have that as a common thread. That is not free will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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