MID Posted July 28, 2012 #51 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Apollo 11 crew would have surely died. end of thread Let's be accurate: If Eagle was stranded on the Moon, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin would've perished. Mike Collins would've had the impossibly difficult task of returning to Earth alone, without his comerades, leaving their bodies on the lunar surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted July 28, 2012 #52 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) I think that is a tad unfair MID, after all the shuttle had 24 successful launches before undergoing a catastrophic launch accident. Yes, Waspie. I recall. But that was an in flight incident... I was getting more to theposter's idea of an explosion on the launch pad. Maybe I'm being too picky. The important difference, of course, is that Apollo had a launch escape system which could pull the crew to safety in the event of an accident on the pad or in the first few minutes of flight. Indeed, and that worked automatically (in a small fraction of a second upon detecting a catastrophic potential) or manually. I am more or less trying to get into the logic which was behind the statemenrt about the fatal launch pad explosion potential... Edited July 28, 2012 by MID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted July 29, 2012 #53 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I think that is a tad unfair MID, after all the shuttle had 24 successful launches before undergoing a catastrophic launch accident. The important difference, of course, is that Apollo had a launch escape system which could pull the crew to safety in the event of an accident on the pad or in the first few minutes of flight. My point exactly Waspie. Challenger and Columbia unfortunately happened and Apollo 13 didn't make it to the moon but fortunately the crew returned safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted July 29, 2012 #54 Share Posted July 29, 2012 My point exactly Waspie. Challenger and Columbia unfortunately happened and Apollo 13 didn't make it to the moon but fortunately the crew returned safely. What was your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted July 29, 2012 #55 Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) *SNIP* My point exactly Waspie. Challenger and Columbia unfortunatelyppened and Apollo 13 didn't make it to the moon but fortunately the crew returned safely. What exactly was your point there? I know there probably won't be an answer, but try not to blow wind, OK? Edited July 29, 2012 by Lilly removed quoted comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted July 29, 2012 #56 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yes, Waspie. I recall. But that was an in flight incident... I was getting more to theposter's idea of an explosion on the launch pad. Maybe I'm being too picky. Indeed, and that worked automatically (in a small fraction of a second upon detecting a catastrophic potential) or manually. I am more or less trying to get into the logic which was behind the statemenrt about the fatal launch pad explosion potential... There is a precedent, although to a Soviet manned flight, not to one from the US. The Soyuz T10-1 accident in 1983, involved a fire and explosion, with the launch escape system blasting the crew with only 2 seconds to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted July 29, 2012 #57 Share Posted July 29, 2012 There is a precedent, although to a Soviet manned flight, not to one from the US. The Soyuz T10-1 accident in 1983, involved a fire and explosion, with the launch escape system blasting the crew with only 2 seconds to spare. Thanks for that. I didn't remember that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted July 29, 2012 #58 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I think we have a resolution to this thread, don't we? If the Apollo 11 crew were stranded on the surface of the Moon. ...They'd have perished there 43 years ago. Mike Collins would be known as the one who came back, and Tranquility Base would be an honored site, a crypt, containing the bodies of two American heroes. And the manned space program may have never been the same again. Fortunately, we don't have to contemplate such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted July 29, 2012 #59 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I think we have a resolution to this thread, don't we? If the Apollo 11 crew were stranded on the surface of the Moon. ...They'd have perished there 43 years ago. That is true. I have no doubt that NASA would have resolved whatever caused the accident. There would almost certainly have been at least on more test flight of the LM and then another landing attempt made. The USA would have still been the first to the moon albeit missing JFKs target of the end of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted July 29, 2012 #60 Share Posted July 29, 2012 But then Like Mid said ,We move on ! We Did Land and return, We Will Move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted July 31, 2012 #61 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) That is true. I have no doubt that NASA would have resolved whatever caused the accident. There would almost certainly have been at least on more test flight of the LM and then another landing attempt made. The USA would have still been the first to the moon albeit missing JFKs target of the end of the decade. Well, as far as returning them safely to the Earth as concerned...It would've been, no joy! I can tell you it would've been hell for some time, figuring out how simple vales didn't allow hypergolics rto mix and simply ignite as they were designed to do..upon contact. LM APS was nearly as fool-proof a system as existed. No one ever thought that it wouldn't work! Edited July 31, 2012 by MID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted August 3, 2012 #62 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I love it when you use those hypergolics wham,Bam, Words Mid ! We could use some of those in Texas ! I have a little job down the road ,It rhymes wit Chick-Fil-a ! Kaboom ! justDONTEATUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockabyeBillie Posted August 25, 2012 #63 Share Posted August 25, 2012 http://www.buzzfeed.com/txblacklabel/president-nixons-speech-if-astornauts-were-st-28m7 Luckily, this didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted August 29, 2012 #64 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I think it has become a rather non-topic now folks. It didn't happen. It wasn't likely, and now, one of the men who landed on the Moon in the Summer of '69 is gone. It seems there's nothing to discuss, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MID Posted September 1, 2012 #65 Share Posted September 1, 2012 But then Like Mid said ,We move on ! We Did Land and return, We Will Move on! :tsu: :tsu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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