acidhead Posted July 28, 2012 #1 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) http://i.dailymail.c...182_964x628.jpg take from it what you want... try to control your emotions.. this is propaganda targeted at American citizens...... it reeks of brainwashing Edited July 28, 2012 by acidhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted July 28, 2012 #2 Share Posted July 28, 2012 How in anyway is the NHS targeted Americans? NHS was a British trust set up after the war. Today we all know the NHS is rubbish and screwed but it represents British past time and British culture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted July 28, 2012 Author #3 Share Posted July 28, 2012 How in anyway is the NHS targeted Americans? NHS was a British trust set up after the war. Today we all know the NHS is rubbish and screwed but it represents British past time and British culture. You tell me Richard... you tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted July 28, 2012 Author #4 Share Posted July 28, 2012 think for your self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted July 28, 2012 #5 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Sorry Acid, but that's just a bit paranoid of you. It's the Poms being proud of "the welfare state" that's all, it'd be like a massive declaration of independence at an American olympics or rotary hoists and victa motormowers at the Sydney Olympics, a bit of "yeah us!" propaganda, not "America, you suck because you don't have socialised medicine" propaganda. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 28, 2012 #6 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Those uniforms looks like vintage euro/UK. http://oesermaatra0069.hostoi.com/pages/real/nurse_uniform_1.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted July 28, 2012 #7 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Those uniforms looks like vintage euro/UK. http://oesermaatra00...e_uniform_1.php State the obvious... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute_Gingrich Posted July 28, 2012 #8 Share Posted July 28, 2012 It's pretty arrogant to think that the organizers were thinking about the US and how best to influence them, while setting up a show about British culture and history. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted July 28, 2012 #9 Share Posted July 28, 2012 How in anyway is the NHS targeted Americans? NHS was a British trust set up after the war. Today we all know the NHS is rubbish and screwed but it represents British past time and British culture. Well, first because there are some people who are convinced that, no matter what happens, it is all because some are against America. But that should not come as surprising because, according to most Americans, if you don't dose your head in Vaseline and climb up America's butt you are also anti-American. Having said that, I believe that Britain has all the right in the world to celebrate one of its biggest achievements: The healthiest generation of Britons that ever was on the planet. Something America is far away from. And the realization of that fact is what hurts, not the opening ceremony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted July 28, 2012 #10 Share Posted July 28, 2012 believe it or not, in the UK the National Health Service is an almost universally admired institution in the UK, whatever perfectly valid criticisms people may have of its organsiation and administration. It is merely paying recognition to this fact, and (I know this may be a difficult thing to grasp) is not necessarily targeted at Americans, since not everything in the world is, necessarily. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted July 28, 2012 #11 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Those uniforms looks like vintage euro/UK. http://oesermaatra00...e_uniform_1.php Heavens, a gallery of Nurse uniforms? That's one to browse later.... Yes, i presume the idea was to celebrate the history of the NHS and so on, hence the retro uniforms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None of the above Posted July 28, 2012 #12 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) The NHS is a source of tremendous national pride for Brits and a model for the entire world for how this CAN be done. Even our current right-wing, budget slashing, austerity obcessed Tory government knows what a special place the NHS has in the hearts of the British. To suggest that our celebrating this 'national treasure' is progaganda aimed at Americans is laughable right wing paranoia of the most absurd kind. Edited July 28, 2012 by Atlantia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 28, 2012 #13 Share Posted July 28, 2012 State the obvious... >_< My point is,if its aimed at the US health care system,the uniforms should be nurse uniforms popular in the USA .Those are UK uniforms ,Ergo,its a UK thing . Hello .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted July 28, 2012 #14 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Heavens, a gallery of Nurse uniforms? That's one to browse later.... Yes, i presume the idea was to celebrate the history of the NHS and so on, hence the retro uniforms. There's gallery from every manner of clothing. Pick a clothing,I will find it for you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted July 28, 2012 #15 Share Posted July 28, 2012 It was a brief history of modern Britain the NHS being one of it's greatest achievements and something to be proud of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishgent Posted July 28, 2012 #16 Share Posted July 28, 2012 http://i.dailymail.c...182_964x628.jpg take from it what you want... try to control your emotions.. this is propaganda targeted at American citizens...... it reeks of brainwashing Brainwashing? It would appear that some Americans are brainwashed into thiniking that everyone else in the world is against them. It';s about time you realised that you are not the biggest and the best at everything. In fact,,,,,,,,,you are far from it! This was not directed at ALL Americans so please dont take offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppono Astos Posted July 28, 2012 #17 Share Posted July 28, 2012 What, you missed the anti-American protest against using the A-bomb in WWII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Right Wing Posted July 28, 2012 #18 Share Posted July 28, 2012 http://i.dailymail.c...182_964x628.jpg take from it what you want... try to control your emotions.. this is propaganda targeted at American citizens...... it reeks of brainwashing The Olympics were given to us when Labour was in office. The NHS and the revising of my nations history to be 'muli-cultural' is offensive. It was pure propaganda but it wasnt aimed at the US its purpose as always is to appease the immigrant population in Britain. Ethnic minorities only make up 6% of the population yet you'd think it was 50% watching these staged events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Right Wing Posted July 28, 2012 #19 Share Posted July 28, 2012 It was a brief history of modern Britain the NHS being one of it's greatest achievements and something to be proud of. Its a disaster costing £122 billion a year when private healthcare would cost £30 billion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted July 28, 2012 #20 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Its a disaster costing £122 billion a year when private healthcare would cost £30 billion. How do you envisage that working? Would most people be expected to pay for healthcare, and state-provided healthcare to be available only to those at the very bottom of the social Ladder by means of means testing or something similar? or should people of an income below a certain level, and/or Immigrants, for example, just be expected to fend for themselves? I presume you're not just trying to be Controversial here, and you do have an actual position on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 28, 2012 #21 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Snort, the NHS thing was directed at the U.S.? Really? And here I thought they were just proud of their NHS. I thought that part of the opening was pretty darn cool. Ok, the giant baby was a little creepy. Propaganda or not, I thought the entire opening ceremony was pretty frigging sweet. I think London kicked butt all over on the awesome factor honestly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Right Wing Posted July 28, 2012 #22 Share Posted July 28, 2012 How do you envisage that working? Would most people be expected to pay for healthcare, and state-provided healthcare to be available only to those at the very bottom of the social Ladder by means of means testing or something similar? or should people of an income below a certain level, and/or Immigrants, for example, just be expected to fend for themselves? I presume you're not just trying to be Controversial here, and you do have an actual position on this matter. The issue is not about who pays but cost. Private healthcare would cost far less than the NHS budget. Most of its budget is wasted on beaurcracy, high wages, tall management structures and fixed drug prices. By privatising the NHS this wastage is reduced. At the moment National Insurance Contributions (NICs) fund the NHS. If a business gave each of its staff a private healthcare policy instead of having to pay NICs then this cost would be slashed. The government can cover the unemployed and those in receipt of benefits. There is no justification for having the NHS. Its like the cogs are broken in the minds of those who support it. The NHS is not free they pay for it with NICs deductions. Those deductions are higher than the cost of private healthcare and this is true for those on minimum wage. Now I must cease this. You've derailed me. Start a new thread if you want to discuss the NHS and I will join. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Right Wing Posted July 28, 2012 #23 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Snort, the NHS thing was directed at the U.S.? Really? And here I thought they were just proud of their NHS. I thought that part of the opening was pretty darn cool. Ok, the giant baby was a little creepy. Propaganda or not, I thought the entire opening ceremony was pretty frigging sweet. I think London kicked butt all over on the awesome factor honestly. I was most impressed with the lighting of the stadium and fireworks. I missed the part with the steel rings. Were they actually forged in the stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 28, 2012 #24 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I was most impressed with the lighting of the stadium and fireworks. I missed the part with the steel rings. Were they actually forged in the stadium? I'm not positive because of the camera coverage. Yeah, it looked like the hot metal flowed into a central ring. But then they cut cameras to people and by the time they got back to the rings there were already 5 rings and already going up into the air. The rings ascending and forming and the shower of sparks was glorious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None of the above Posted July 28, 2012 #25 Share Posted July 28, 2012 There now follows a party political broadcast on behalf of Thatchers Britain: The issue is not about who pays but cost. Private healthcare would cost far less than the NHS budget. Most of its budget is wasted on beaurcracy, high wages, tall management structures and fixed drug prices. By privatising the NHS this wastage is reduced. At the moment National Insurance Contributions (NICs) fund the NHS. If a business gave each of its staff a private healthcare policy instead of having to pay NICs then this cost would be slashed. The government can cover the unemployed and those in receipt of benefits. There is no justification for having the NHS. Its like the cogs are broken in the minds of those who support it. The NHS is not free they pay for it with NICs deductions. Those deductions are higher than the cost of private healthcare and this is true for those on minimum wage. Now I must cease this. You've derailed me. Start a new thread if you want to discuss the NHS and I will join. What a load of crap you talk. And you have the cheek to call the Olympic opening ceremony propaganda. Thatchers minions gave us all that crap about privatisation in the 80s. Selling off national assets doesn't make them better or cheaper. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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