Bushes backed Nazi's : Proof

[Guest]

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

https://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar?fb_source=other_multiline&fb_action_types=news.reads

It seems that all the rumours that the Bush family were Nazi sympathizer were true.

Makes the motives for operation paperclip a little more plain - and then George Bush seniors time with the CIA.

Br Cornelius

[Mr.United_Nations]

Grandfather does not make family nazis, misleading title again..

[Guest]

Grandfather does not make family nazis, misleading title again..

There's a complex back story of how operation paperclip flooded the American secret service with Gestapo agents after the war and how this meant that many of the original founders of the CIA were known Nazi sympathizers. The fact that Bush senior was a leading light in the early CIA suggests that there were lingering sympathies for Nazi ideals - though that is difficult to prove. There is a detailed documentary showing the chain of contacts right up to Bushes time in the CIA.

Br Cornelius

[Guest]

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Br Cornelius

Edited August 12, 2012 by Guest

[smurf0852]

https://apps.faceboo...ypes=news.reads

It seems that all the rumours that the Bush family were Nazi sympathizer were true.

Makes the motives for operation paperclip a little more plain - and then George Bush seniors time with the CIA.

Br Cornelius

no suprise there then along with the british aristocricy they could all got together and had a little party with champers and stuff toasting that great leader adolf.dont these people make you puke.

[Guest]

Indeed they do.

What makes me puke even more is that the Bush dynasty are still one of the most powerful families in America.

Br Cornelius

[Ashotep]

The apple never falls far from the tree.

[CRIPTIC CHAMELEON]

Isn't it a bit late to be witch hunting the nazi are dead the people they killed are dead the people who killed them are dead old man Bush is dead. As long as we have learn't something from all that suffering.

[smurf0852]

Isn't it a bit late to be witch hunting the nazi are dead the people they killed are dead the people who killed them are dead old man Bush is dead. As long as we have learn't something from all that suffering.

the problem is we dont seem to have learned enough.let us not forget the mistakes of the past least we be doomed to repeat them.

[itsnotoutthere]

Yea, reminds me of those Irish terrorist sympathizers the Kennedys.

Edited August 12, 2012 by itsnotoutthere

[Guest]

Isn't it a bit late to be witch hunting the nazi are dead the people they killed are dead the people who killed them are dead old man Bush is dead. As long as we have learn't something from all that suffering.

The question is, is it all in the past ?

Certainly George Bush Senior has a very shady past with the CIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcHwMqc5pTA

Br Cornelius

Br Cornelius

[smurf0852]

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Br Cornelius

lol you have to love the land of the free populated by people who commited one of the biggest genosides against indigeones populations ever seen are the only people ever to uses nuclear weapons in anger and wouldnt let black people share toilets with them until the 1960's god bless america.

[smurf0852]

Yea, reminds me of those Irish terrorist sympathizers the Kennedys.

most of the ira's funding came from the usa its no secret putting money into a tin for the "cause" in boston for example was an every day thing.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

The apple never falls far from the tree.

Yes, but when apples go to seed they never produce the same sort of apple as their parent due to massive hybridisation.

Anyway, Walt Disney and Henry Ford were supporters of the ideals of National Socialism.

Boycott of Disney products then?

[Guest]

Yes, but when apples go to seed they never produce the same sort of apple as their parent due to massive hybridisation.

Anyway, Walt Disney and Henry Ford were supporters of the ideals of National Socialism.

Boycott of Disney products then?

Definitely. I think Americas looking quite shaky at the moment.

Br Cornelius

[Guest]

"The notion that they [CIA, Army Counterintelligence Corp, Gehlen organization] employed only a few bad apples will not stand up to the new documentation. Some American intelligence officials could not or did not want to see how many German intelligence officials, SS officers, police, or non-German collaborators with the Nazis were compromised or incriminated by their past service… Hindsight allows us to see that American use of actual or alleged war criminals was a blunder in several respects…there was no compelling reason to begin the postwar era with the assistance of some of those associated with the worst crimes of the war. Lack of sufficient attention to history-and, on a personal level, to character and morality-established a bad precedent, especially for new intelligence agencies. It also brought into intelligence organizations men and women previously incapable of distinguishing between their political/ideological beliefs and reality. As a result, such individuals could not and did not deliver good intelligence. Finally, because their new, professed 'democratic convictions' were at best insecure and their pasts could be used against them (some could be blackmailed), these recruits represented a potential security problem."

(Note 3)

The Gehlen organization profiled in the newly posted CIA history represents one of the most telling examples of these pitfalls. Timothy Naftali, a University of Virginia professor and consulting historian to the IWG who focused heavily on the declassified CIA material, highlighted the problems posed by our relationship with Gehlen: "Reinhard Gehlen was able to use U.S. funds to create a large intelligence bureaucracy that not only undermined the Western critique of the Soviet Union by protecting and promoting war criminals but also was arguably the least effective and secure in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. As many in U.S. intelligence in the late 1940s had feared would happen, the Gehlen Organization proved to be the back door by which the Soviets penetrated the Western alliance."

(Note 4)

http://www.gwu.edu/~...AEBB/NSAEBB146/

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-cia-and-the-nazis/

Br Cornelius

Edited August 12, 2012 by Guest

[Guest]

Bush shown to be Nazi sympathizer.

CIA recruits thousands of Nazi's.

Bush becomes head of CIA.

Join the dots !

Br Cornelius

[Knight Of Shadows]

interesting

[Guest]

Dulles - the founder of the CIA has strong business ties to Nazi germany, and Prescott Bush is a director of one of the Banks used to move cash in and out of Germany.

Dulles entered the diplomatic service after college and served as a State Department delegate to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, which brought a formal end to World War I. The Versailles Treaty which came out of this conference included a provision making it illegal to sell arms to Germany. This displeased the powerful DuPont family, and they put pressure on the delegates to allow them to opt out. It was Allen Dulles who finally gave them the assurances they wanted that their transactions with Germany would be "winked at."

Dulles remained a diplomat through the early 1920's, spending part of that time in Berlin. However, he left government service in 1926 for the greener pastures of private business, becoming a Wall Street lawyer with the same firm as his older brother, John Foster Dulles.

By the middle 20's, Germany had started recovering from the effects of the war and its postwar economic collapse, and the great German industrial firms were looking like attractive investment opportunities for wealthy Americans. W.A. Harriman & Co., formed in 1919 by Averell Harriman (son of railroad baron E.H. Hariman) and George Herbert Walker, had led the way in directing American money to German companies and had opened a Berlin branch as early as 1922, when Germany was still in chaos. At that time, Averell Harriman traveled to Europe and made contact with the powerful Thyssen family of steel magnates. It was to be a long-lasting and fateful partnership.

The Thyssens' steel business had suffered greatly from Germany's defeat, and old August Thyssen had decided to guard against future setbacks by creating a system of private banks. He founded one in Berlin and another in the city of Rotterdam in the Netherlands. In the wake of Harriman's trip, a third bank was added to the network, the Union Banking Corporation, founded in New York in 1924 with George Herbert Walker as president. Having their own personal banking system made it easy for the Thyssens to move assets around, launder money, conceal profits, and evade taxes.

By 1926, W.A. Harriman was doing so well that Walker gave his son-in-law, Prescott Bush, the gift of making him a vice president. In 1931, W.A. Harriman merged with a British firm to create Brown Brothers, Harriman, and Prescott Bush became a senior partner. During the 1930's, Brown Brothers, Harriman would increasingly direct its clients' investments to German companies. The Rockefeller family was prominent among these clients, and Standard Oil developed particularly close connections with the chemical giant I.G. Farben.

It was into this heady atmosphere of high-level investments and financial manipulation that Allen Dulles entered when he joined the firm of Sullivan and Cromwell in 1926. He would become the lawyer for the Thyssens' Rotterdam bank and would also represent other German firms, including I.G. Farben.

However, there was a serpent in this businessmen's Eden, and its name was Adolph Hitler. August Thyssen's son and successor, Fritz Thyssen, was an enthusiastic supporter of Hitler and had been funding the Nazi Party since 1923. Other German industrialists would do the same. It is hard to say to what extent the American investors shared Thyssen's enthusiasm, though it seems likely that most of them were swayed less by ideology than by the prospect that Hitler would be good for business. Either way, the outcome was that many wealthy and powerful Americans wound up supporting a regime that would ultimately become their own nation's enemy, and investing in the very firms that would provide the core of that regime's military machine.

Early in 1933, both Dulles brother attended a meeting in Germany where German industrialists agreed to back Hitler's bid for power in exchange for his pledge to break the German unions. A few months later, John Foster Dulles negotiated a deal with Hitler's economics minister whereby all German trade with the United States would be coordinated through a syndicate headed by Averell Harriman's cousin. With the Nazis enforcing a favorable climate for business, the profits for Thyssen and other companies soared, and the Union Banking Corporation increasingly became a Nazi money-laundering machine. In 1934, George Herbert Walker placed Prescott Bush on Union Bank's board of directors, and Bush and Harriman also began to use the bank as the basis for a complex and deceptive system of holding companies.

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http://www.whale.to/b/allen_dulles.html

So both Dullens and Prescott Bush are directly profiting from business ties in Nazi Germany - and then Dullens goes onto found the CIA. Later George Bush senior takes over as director of the CIA.

Is all this starting to look very fishy to you ??

Br Cornelius

[spud the mackem]

The Brits also have a few skeletons hidden away.

[Guest]

Does it concern anyone that a dynasty of known Nazi sympathizer war profiteers have lead the policy of the USA for 15 of the last 50 years ??

Does it worry anyone else that the man who most likely ordered the assassination of JFK went onto become the President ??

How about the fact that a largely unaccountable secretive organization with a world spanning reach was founded and run by Nazi sympathizers ??

Br Cornelius

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[Coffey]

The Brits also have a few skeletons hidden away.

I think most governments do, the problem is power. They crave it, that is why they strive to get into the government. They blatantly don't care about the people.

lol you have to love the land of the free populated by people who commited one of the biggest genosides against indigeones populations ever seen are the only people ever to uses nuclear weapons in anger and wouldnt let black people share toilets with them until the 1960's god bless america.

This made me laugh. lol

[Paracelse]

Isn't it a bit late to be witch hunting the nazi are dead the people they killed are dead the people who killed them are dead old man Bush is dead. As long as we have learn't something from all that suffering.

When you lost half of your family or property to a system or another the witchhunt should never cease!

Anyway, Walt Disney and Henry Ford were supporters of the ideals of National Socialism.

Boycott of Disney products then?

I do boycott disney and ford and Allianz insurance and City; JP Morgan and Chase, all nazis sympatizers

[Charlie Prime]

Does it concern anyone that a dynasty of known Nazi sympathizer war profiteers have lead the policy of the USA for 15 of the last 50 years ??

You seem to be unaware that the same people who funded the Nazi party also, and at the same time, funded the rise of Bolshevism.

The Bush family are nothing more than well-compensated dancing puppets.

[Guest]

You seem to be unaware that the same people who funded the Nazi party also, and at the same time, funded the rise of Bolshevism.

The Bush family are nothing more than well-compensated dancing puppets.

i have shown a certain evidence trail for my claim - such a claim needs similar evidence.

You may very well be right though.

Br Cornelius