Bushes backed Nazi's : Proof

[Babe Ruth]

Good article Br. Cornelius, but rather old news.

What I wonder is if what we have today is really the Fourth Reich?

[Guest]

Good article Br. Cornelius, but rather old news.

What I wonder is if what we have today is really the Fourth Reich?

I know this is relatively old news - but it is stronger evidence which helps confirm what has generally been considered a mere conspiracy theory by many.

I think we probably do have a fourth Reich. The CIA is often referred to as the secret government of America - and with such strong Nazi ties we have to question whether Americas real trajectory is Nazi in character.

Br Cornelius

Edited August 13, 2012 by Guest

[Guest]

Another well written summary article;

http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=9099

Br Cornelius

[Mr Right Wing]

Good article Br. Cornelius, but rather old news.

What I wonder is if what we have today is really the Fourth Reich?

The US, UK and EU nations need to make sure that Western Civilization stays number one.

The last time China was on the rise we did exactly what is happening in the Middle East today. Opium farms in Afganistan (and Iran in a few months) to turn the Chinese into drug addicts. Cutting off their oil supply to stop their economic growth.

Good boy Bush, Blair and now Cameron.

Edited August 13, 2012 by Mr Right Wing

[Rafterman]

https://apps.faceboo...ypes=news.reads

It seems that all the rumours that the Bush family were Nazi sympathizer were true.

Makes the motives for operation paperclip a little more plain - and then George Bush seniors time with the CIA.

Br Cornelius

You last living utterance on this planet is going to be "Buuuussshhhhhhh".

[Charlie Prime]

The US, UK and EU nations need to make sure that Western Civilization stays number one.

I hate to ridicule, but your quaint nationalism is far behind the curve. You are still living in the 20th century.

Please understand that where power/money is concerned, there are no more nations. Nationalism is silly media propaganda for herding proles. It no longer exists for elites, regardless of whether they were born in New York, Beijing, or Dubai.

[Mr Right Wing]

I hate to ridicule, but your quaint nationalism is far behind the curve. You are still living in the 20th century.

Please understand that where power/money is concerned, there are no more nations. Nationalism is silly media propaganda for herding proles. It no longer exists for elites, regardless of whether they were born in New York, Beijing, or Dubai.

Nah, the majority of people are not multi-nationals.

[Guest]

There is a persistent rumour that the Skull and Bones secret society - of which all the Bushes were members, was a chapter of a German secret society;

William H. Russell received permission to set up Chapter 322 on the Yale campus from the German secret society, while he was studying for a year in Germany. Chapter 322 is the only branch of the Skull and Bones that we know about in the USA.

http://www.plim.org/SkullBones.htm

When Russell returned to Yale in 1832, he formed a senior society with Alphonso Taft ('33). According to information acquired from a break-in to the "tomb" (the Skull and Bones meeting hall) in 1876, "Bones is a chapter of a corps in a German University.... General Russell, its founder, was in Germany before his Senior Year and formed a warm friendship with a leading member of a German society. He brought back with him to college, authority to found a chapter here." So class valedictorian William H. Russell, along with fourteen others, became the founding members of "The Order of Scull and Bones," later changed to "The Order of Skull and Bones".

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/skull.html

I can find no hard verification of this, but it seems quite telling of where the German influence came from.

Br Cornelius

Edited August 13, 2012 by Guest

[Guest]

Nah, the majority of people are not multi-nationals.

Such a sad lack of knowledge. the British are one of the most mixed races on the planet. So many waves of immigrants it would be difficult to find a single "pure" English blooded person.

Br Cornelius

[Bavarian Raven]

and 42 of the 43 US presidents are all related by blood (the 8th president is the oddball). therefore, by this logic, the current US president is also in league with the fascists. i smell a giant conspiracy growing here

[Guest]

and 42 of the 43 US presidents are all related by blood (the 8th president is the oddball). therefore, by this logic, the current US president is also in league with the fascists. i smell a giant conspiracy growing here

I am reluctant to go that far - but its a challenge not to

Br Cornelius

[Q-C]

I am reluctant to go that far - but its a challenge not to

Br Cornelius

Please do. Or I smell a conspiracy of a conspiracy.

[Guest]

Please do. Or I smell a conspiracy of a conspiracy.

Unfortunately on most of these things the evidence trail fizzles out and then you are liable to stray into the world of evangelical demon hunters and David Icke style Paranoia.

I have made a conscious decision not to interpret beyond the documented facts and as such I will not speculate unless their is concrete proof.

I think the evidence of Bush - Nazi collaboration and its effects on CIA policy is fairly clear for all to see. The bit about Bush commissioning the JFK assassination is compelling - but unfortunately speculative. It certainly shines a different light on the conduct of American foreign policy and why it has tended to favour extreme right wing governments and dictators.

Very disturbing all in all.

Br Cornelius

[Guest]

It appears that there have been Nazi sympathizers at all levels of the GOP;

Are Republicans like George H. W. Bush, Oliver North, and Jesse Helms, aware they have been assisted by

Nazi collaborators? Bush once worked for the CIA and should have known about the nature of the Nazis in his

'88 campaign. No doubt he knows the history of Nazi/CIA collaboration. Whether or not Bush knew of the

fascists' involvement in his campaign, the Republican Party should have done a far better screening job. One

thing is certain: The intelligence agencies know the scope and extent of Nazi involvement with the political

right in this country. It is a shame they keep it hidden from the majority of the American people.

http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm

Br Cornelius

[pallidin]

>>> pallidin prays <<<

"Dear Lord, thank you for this madness, for therein I treasure my own sanity"

[Guest]

>>> pallidin prays <<<

"Dear Lord, thank you for this madness, for therein I treasure my own sanity"

Are you actually disputing that the Bush dynasty made its money through a long standing support of German Nazi industry ?

Most of the basic facts here are indisputable and well supported by an abundance of evidence. We could argue about the conclusions I have drawn but not about the paper trail.

I thought the evidence was more than clear on that fact. Please be specific about what you don't like here.

Br Cornelius

Edited August 13, 2012 by Guest

[pallidin]

What ones' parents did does not automatically mean that all their children follow suit.

For example, my mother loved communism for some strange reason. I hate it.

In any event, you are certainly entitled to your opinion

[Guest]

What ones' parents did does not automatically mean that all their children follow suit.

For example, my mother loved communism for some strange reason. I hate it.

In any event, you are certainly entitled to your opinion

It seems that Bush Snr recruited known Fascists to do "Community Outreach" in his election campaign, which if you had of read the information provided, you would know. He got caught out and sacked them when the press got hold of it. As for Bush Jnr, the evidence for direct fascist sympathies fizzle out and so I have made no direct inference.

As you say - you are entitled to your opinion - no matter how ill informed.

Br Cornelius

Edited August 13, 2012 by Guest

[pallidin]

Cornelious, besides the derogatory slam(that's OK, I do it myself from time-to-time ) I guess what confuses me is WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

If it's a historical point of a financier making money from the Nazi war machine, fine, point taken.

It wouldn't be the first time that a financier shut's eye's at global concerns.

But what does that have to do with the here and now? Nazism is dead, politically. For a long time.

Bush Sr., and Jr. would have had nothing to gain from it, politically.

Edited August 13, 2012 by pallidin

[Guest]

The Bush dynasty is still very much an active force in American politics. There is a strong set of evidence that Nazi sympathies lingered to at least Bush Snr (who is still alive). There is a very real possibility that Bush Jnr acquired the same philosophy through his connections to Skull and Bones. The ultra right wing of the GOP have some very extreme views and the philosophy of the Nazi still seems to linger in the conduct of foreign policy and the CIA in particular. Let us not forget that Bush Jnr sanctioned widespread torture within the CIA and fabricated evidence to invade a foreign country. They are a nasty bunch of people and they always have been - who can imagine what such morally bankrupt individuals are really capable of.

The issue is still very much current.

Br Cornelius

[pallidin]

How is the Skull and Bones society associated with Nazism?

Does S&B have a doctrine against Jews? I have no idea myself. It's a secret society.

Did the Bush presidents support Israel? Yes.

Quite frankly, your argument falls apart the more you talk.

[+and-then]

Brutha apparently has real issues with the US in general. Since about 99% of the world's population think Dubya is Satan, I really don't think the Bush Dynasty is much to worry about anymore. What a tool..... you crack me up Brutha....

[Guest]

How is the Skull and Bones society associated with Nazism?

Does S&B have a doctrine against Jews? I have no idea myself. It's a secret society.

Did the Bush presidents support Israel? Yes.

Quite frankly, your argument falls apart the more you talk.

Skull and Bones has one or two Jewsish members but is generally anti-minorities in general. It is a Wasp organisation which has ties to a similar secret order in Germany. Its primary purpose is to project its members into high ranking CIA,Government and Business positions. Its early members were known anti-simitic's an d I can see little reason to suppose the that the nest olf extreme right wingers it has fostered have suddenly become Liberals.

America has supported Israel for its own strategic interests - it doesn't demonstrate a love of the Jewish people. Considering Dubias evangelical pronouncements his motives maybe entirely different to what they would appear to a rational man.

Draw your own conclusions from the body of evidence.

Br Cornelius

[Mr Right Wing]

The Bush dynasty is still very much an active force in American politics. There is a strong set of evidence that Nazi sympathies lingered to at least Bush Snr (who is still alive). There is a very real possibility that Bush Jnr acquired the same philosophy through his connections to Skull and Bones. The ultra right wing of the GOP have some very extreme views and the philosophy of the Nazi still seems to linger in the conduct of foreign policy and the CIA in particular. Let us not forget that Bush Jnr sanctioned widespread torture within the CIA and fabricated evidence to invade a foreign country. They are a nasty bunch of people and they always have been - who can imagine what such morally bankrupt individuals are really capable of.

The issue is still very much current.

Br Cornelius

I like the Republican Party they are like the Conservatives.

Sure some of its politicians will be far-right but who cares? A country needs politicians from Mars as much as it needs those from Venus. Do you think the US would remain the leading economic and military superpower if it wasnt prepared to promote its interests on the world stage?

Bush was the best US President so far and its a shame he was prevented from going all the way (dictator). If the West doesnt grab the oil to control its distribution and prices China will take over the world. Do you think China likes you?

Chinese military leaders have made their plans for Austrailia, Canada and the US publically known. China has stated it needs living space for its large population and extra resources to support them. It plans to take these lands because historically they were occupied by Mongoloid peoples (ancient Chinese) and therefore are rightfully its.

Those Chinese generals have let it be known that China is developing biological agents that just target Europeans and their plan is to genocide them from Austrailia, Canada and the US. Yet the US keeps sending technology to them and trading with them in the hope it can turn China into a friend.

If China takes over the world you are dead and they wont give a dam that you are Marxist.

[Guest]

I like the Republican Party they are like the Conservatives.

Sure some of its politicians will be far-right but who cares? A country needs politicians from Mars as much as it needs those from Venus. Do you think the US would remain the leading economic and military superpower if it wasnt prepared to promote its interests on the world stage?

Bush was the best US President so far and its a shame he was prevented from going all the way (dictator). If the West doesnt grab the oil to control its distribution and prices China will take over the world. Do you think China likes you?

Chinese military leaders have made their plans for Austrailia, Canada and the US publically known. China has stated it needs living space for its large population and extra resources to support them. It plans to take these lands because historically they were occupied by Mongoloid peoples (ancient Chinese) and therefore are rightfully its.

Those Chinese generals have let it be known that China is developing biological agents that just target Europeans and their plan is to genocide them from Austrailia, Canada and the US. Yet the US keeps sending technology to them and trading with them in the hope it can turn China into a friend.

If China takes over the world you are dead and they wont give a dam that you are Marxist.

Please O please show us a bit of evidence for this.

You have openly declared that you would like to see the USA a dictatorship under the Nazi sympathizing Bushes. I think the more you speak the more you reveal of your odious beliefs.

Br Cornelius