Bushes backed Nazi's : Proof

[ExpandMyMind]

Mr Right Wing - you are one scary person. I can't imagine how your mind draws its conclusions.

[Guest]

Mr Right Wing - you are one scary person. I can't imagine how your mind draws its conclusions.

Also quite delusional and totally immune to evidence or facts.

Br Cornelius

[Mr Right Wing]

Please O please show us a bit of evidence for this.

You have openly declared that you would like to see the USA a dictatorship under the Nazi sympathizing Bushes. I think the more you speak the more you reveal of your odious beliefs.

Br Cornelius

The Chinese General, Vice-Chairman of the CMC and Defence Minister Chi Haotian is the one that delivered the speech in 2005. I cant find a written transcript of the speech but heres a couple of Youtube videos on it -

- [media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE8mUfidXUw&feature=related

In this speech, which he delivered to the whole Chinese nation, he said China is developing biological weapons to exterminate Europeans from Austrailia, Canada and the US. China plans to take over the regions to provide the living space and resources needed for its growing population.

This isnt make believe its real.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Mr Right Wing

[Helen of Annoy]

Chinese regime is not socialist, or communist, nor it ever was, according to definitions what socialism or communism are.

Their ruling caste is organized in something they call communist party but that doesn’t make them communists, since they – screamingly obviously – do not build a society of equals.

That being said, who has made China influential?

Greedy western concerns, that destroyed production in their own countries for the sake of greater profit.

Production, morons, is what makes economy viable. You can stick your investments where sun doesn’t shine if you have no production and this current recession **** that keeps hitting your fan is direct consequence of virtually all production being moved to China. I know slaves are more manageable than workers, but who’s going to buy your crap if workers are out of work?

That too being said, Bushes and similar are not Nazis or anything else but opportunists. They’ll ally with the devil if that brings profit, for them, not for you. You can go **** yourself as far as rich people are concerned. And you will never be rich, the media that keeps feeding your feeble mind with existence of opportunities for you to become another Bush does that to keep you busy with fantasies, so you don’t join a rebellion that happens each time general population is hungry. And that day is not so far away as you would say after this night’s episode of American Spoon-fed Crap.

Why I’m wasting my time again?

Those who have two working brain cells already know everything, those who don’t will keep voting for their own financial breakdown no matter what I or anyone else says.

[Order66]

Chinese regime is not socialist, or communist, nor it ever was, according to definitions what socialism or communism are.

Their ruling caste is organized in something they call communist party but that doesn’t make them communists, since they – screamingly obviously – do not build a society of equals.

That being said, who has made China influential?

Greedy western concerns, that destroyed production in their own countries for the sake of greater profit.

Production, morons, is what makes economy viable. You can stick your investments where sun doesn’t shine if you have no production and this current recession **** that keeps hitting your fan is direct consequence of virtually all production being moved to China. I know slaves are more manageable than workers, but who’s going to buy your crap if workers are out of work?

That too being said, Bushes and similar are not Nazis or anything else but opportunists. They’ll ally with the devil if that brings profit, for them, not for you. You can go **** yourself as far as rich people are concerned. And you will never be rich, the media that keeps feeding your feeble mind with existence of opportunities for you to become another Bush does that to keep you busy with fantasies, so you don’t join a rebellion that happens each time general population is hungry. And that day is not so far away as you would say after this night’s episode of American Spoon-fed Crap.

Why I’m wasting my time again?

Those who have two working brain cells already know everything, those who don’t will keep voting for their own financial breakdown no matter what I or anyone else says.

I don't think its the desire for profit that's killing the economy ( in the US anyway ), it's the interference in the free market. Our government has moved so far to the left that manufacturers find a communist country less hostile to their business. The trick isn't in making you believe in the American dream, the trick is in what they will do to you once you achieve it.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Vein Capital

[Guest]

The Chinese adopted Neo-Liberal economics more aggressively than anywhere else on the planet. The thing with Free Markets is they generally go hand in hand with repressive regimes. The novelty with China is simply that they call themselves Communists rather than fascists - other than that there's little practical difference.

Capitol will ALWAYS fly to the lowest cost base country and that is why all the western countries have seen a flight of investment capitol from their own manufacturing base. Capitalism is eating its own tail and will drag all the western countries down to the lowest level imaginable - it is the nature of the beast.

This gets to the heart of the trickle down myth in that the capitol has already moved offshore and so has nowhere to trickle down to other than to someone else than western citizens. If the rich want to spend a single day taking advantage of the Western infrastructure - they need to be made to pay for that infrastructure and tax havens just will not allow that.

If you can find a way for western countries to prevent capitalism from destroying them you will get the next economic noble prize.

Br Cornelius

Edited August 14, 2012 by Guest

[Helen of Annoy]

I don't think its the desire for profit that's killing the economy ( in the US anyway ),

Jesus blind Christ. I’m so sorry for you. I truly am.

it's the interference in the free market.

Jesus blind Christ who also has lost his white cane. What? It’s not free enough? Still have few laws preventing you go full Ebenezer Scrooge on your own nation?

Our government has moved so far to the left

Your government is not left or right, it has no political quality anymore, only profit guides it.

that manufacturers find a communist country less hostile to their business. The trick isn't in making you believe in the American dream, the trick is in what they will do to you once you achieve it.

China is not communist. If you think it is, you have absolutely no idea what communism is. China is feudal, only the emperor is not the son of the former emperor, but elected head of so called commie party, and it’s not the general public that elects him.

I won't comment on American dream, since it's not a dream but illusion of few paid by many.

[Guest]

Capitalism is a pathology of a dying planet.

The American dream is the carrot which leads the donkey on with a heavy load. When the carrot rots the stick will be brought out to take over.

As usual people are attempting to play the "My pile of **** is better than your pile of ****" game

Br Cornelius

Edited August 14, 2012 by Guest

[Mr Right Wing]

The Chinese adopted Neo-Liberal economics more aggressively than anywhere else on the planet. The thing with Free Markets is they generally go hand in hand with repressive regimes. The novelty with China is simply that they call themselves Communists rather than fascists - other than that there's little practical difference.

Capitol will ALWAYS fly to the lowest cost base country and that is why all the western countries have seen a flight of investment capitol from their own manufacturing base. Capitalism is eating its own tail and will drag all the western countries down to the lowest level imaginable - it is the nature of the beast.

If you can find a way for western countries to prevent capitalism from destroying them you will get the next economic noble prize.

Br Cornelius

National Conservatism is different from National Socialism.

While both want an empire its the left where Nazism comes from not the right. The free market mechanism works and I'm confused as to why a banking crises makes people think it doesnt. It is the greatest economic system yet designed by mankind. The reason being is that the distribution and logistics of resources is handled automatically by the distribution of wealth. The more in demand a persons skills or a business is to society the easier its access to resources as it has more money. Its an extremely efficient way of running a states economy and there is nothing wrong with it.

Socialism is a failure as history has shown and Chinas corruption problems are worse than the Wests.

[Guest]

National Conservatism is different from National Socialism.

While both want an empire its the left where Nazism comes from not the right. The free market mechanism works and I'm confused as to why a banking crises makes people think it doesnt. It is the greatest economic system yet designed by mankind. The reason being is that the distribution and logistics of resources is handled automatically by the distribution of wealth. The more in demand a persons skills or a business is to society the easier its access to resources as it has more money. Its an extremely efficient way of running a states economy and there is nothing wrong with it.

Socialism is a failure as history has shown and Chinas corruption problems are worse than the Wests.

As I said the "My pile of **** is better than your pile of ****". You fundamentally just don't understand why the economic crisis we are in is a direct consequence of capitalisms disfunction and why if we stick with it most western citizens will be little better off than most African citizens.

You just don't have a ******* clue do you.

Br Cornelius

[Helen of Annoy]

Mr. Coco Wing wants cookie. Coco nice parrot. Coco kiss kiss kissy. Coco needs no brain, Coco was told it works. No obvious reality will steer Coco away from party line. There will be crumbs!!! Crumbs for Coco! Coco good parrot!

And I feel sorry when they are used as cannon fodder? What’s wrong with me?

*goes away to do something useful*

Edited August 14, 2012 by Helen of Annoy

[TSS]

Capitalism is a pathology of a dying planet.

The American dream is the carrot which leads the donkey on with a heavy load. When the carrot rots the stick will be brought out to take over.

As usual people are attempting to play the "My pile of **** is better than your pile of ****" game

Br Cornelius

Not sure i'd agree with that. All I want from any system is no cap whatsoever on my ambition and earning potential...and the freedom to operate in any sector I like (with the obvious exceptions like arms dealing etc). Whilst i'd admit i've never looked much at alternative systems, on the surface they seem to want to place boundaries on my ambitions or goals. Capitalism works for me, what alternatives are there that don't hinder me?

Edited August 14, 2012 by The Sky Scanner

[+OverSword]

The Bush dynasty is still very much an active force in American politics. There is a strong set of evidence that Nazi sympathies lingered to at least Bush Snr (who is still alive). There is a very real possibility that Bush Jnr acquired the same philosophy through his connections to Skull and Bones. The ultra right wing of the GOP have some very extreme views and the philosophy of the Nazi still seems to linger in the conduct of foreign policy and the CIA in particular. Let us not forget that Bush Jnr sanctioned widespread torture within the CIA and fabricated evidence to invade a foreign country. They are a nasty bunch of people and they always have been - who can imagine what such morally bankrupt individuals are really capable of.

The issue is still very much current.

Br Cornelius

Here is a picture of George Bush sr.'s grandson George Bush III.

His mother is a citizen of Mexico. I will be surprised if he does not run for office in 2020.

Do you think he is a good example of the Nazi sympathies you claim George Sr. holds? The truth is that the Nazi's seemed like a good investment at the time, banks and companies backing them probably just seemed like a wise investment and had little or nothing to do with political ideologies. Except maybe the fact that the Nazis were vehemently anti communist which from an American point of view would have seemed like a good thing.

[Guest]

Not sure i'd agree with that. All I want from any system is no cap whatsoever on my ambition and earning potential...and the freedom to operate in any sector I like (with the obvious exceptions like arms dealing etc). Whilst i'd admit i've never looked much at alternative systems, on the surface they seem to want to place boundaries on my ambitions or goals. Capitalism works for me, what alternatives are there that don't hinder me?

Social Democracy allows you to achieve your ambitions - but simply asks you to give a little more back to the system which allowed you to achieve your goals.

Beyond that it is a root and branch re-adjustment away from measuring achievement by what you have to what you can do for the good of society and what society can do to support you in the difficult times ahead. There are no easy answers, but a sustainable future will neither look like capitalism or communism and certainly will not have consumption at its heart. It will have people at its heart.

Br Cornelius

[Guest]

Here is a picture of George Bush sr.'s grandson George Bush III.

His mother is a citizen of Mexico. I will be surprised if he does not run for office in 2020.

Do you think he is a good example of the Nazi sympathies you claim George Sr. holds? The truth is that the Nazi's seemed like a good investment at the time, banks and companies backing them probably just seemed like a wise investment and had little or nothing to do with political ideologies. Except maybe the fact that the Nazis were vehemently anti communist which from an American point of view would have seemed like a good thing.

The Bush dynasty have driven an extreme foreign policy agenda which has killed millions of innocent civilians. The fact that a Bush is half Mexican doesn't diminish their Nazi sympathies (think of Franco's Spain or Pinoch's Chile). I do not think it was in any way just an economic investment - there were strong sympathies which are attested to by the Bush clan and its associates facilitating the importation of many Nazi's into America and continuing to use Nazi's in their campaigning machine. They would not have done that without some direct sympathy for Nazi ideals.

Br Cornelius

[Mr Right Wing]

As I said the "My pile of **** is better than your pile of ****". You fundamentally just don't understand why the economic crisis we are in is a direct consequence of capitalisms disfunction and why if we stick with it most western citizens will be little better off than most African citizens.

You just don't have a ******* clue do you.

Br Cornelius

China is more corrupt that the West.

Its not the Capitalist economic system which is flawed its the inability of past Governments to correctly regulate bankers using audits.

[Order66]

Jesus blind Christ. I’m so sorry for you. I truly am.

Well, I don't think that was called for I am sorry too, for clicking on this topic, but I have a reply anyway ...

Jesus blind Christ who also has lost his white cane. What? It’s not free enough? Still have few laws preventing you go full Ebenezer Scrooge on your own nation?

I will give you an example, the NLRB lawsuit against Boeing:

http://www.manufactu...n-new-agreement

Boeing decided to build a plant in South Carolina, and all of a sudden union thugs backed by Nancy Pelosi and every crooked crony filed a lawsuit for not opening the plant in Washington. Who cares about people in South Carolina that could use the jobs in a down economy, the union thugs in Washington have to get their piece of pie. Boeing ended up settling with a big payout to the unions. Who pays the cost? It is passed down to the consumer ...

Your government is not left or right, it has no political quality anymore, only profit guides it.

Obama has cost us hundreds of billions of dollars on stimulus bills to pay government workers at every level to maintain the failed status quo, GM has lost more money than it was given in the bailout, green energy business have failed. I wish profit would guide it!

[Mr Right Wing]

The Bush dynasty have driven an extreme foreign policy agenda which has killed millions of innocent civilians. The fact that a Bush is half Mexican doesn't diminish their Nazi sympathies (think of Franco's Spain or Pinoch's Chile). I do not think it was in any way just an economic investment - there were strong sympathies which are attested to by the Bush clan and its associates facilitating the importation of many Nazi's into America and continuing to use Nazi's in their campaigning machine. They would not have done that without some direct sympathy for Nazi ideals.

Br Cornelius

Bush was a Conservative not a Socialist so stop calling him a Nazi. If you're going to give out derogatory labels to people at least get the right ones.

Edited August 14, 2012 by Mr Right Wing

[Guest]

China is more corrupt that the West.

Its not the Capitalist economic system which is flawed its the inability of past Governments to correctly regulate bankers using audits.

Corruption of the Corporate sector extends into all areas and has only marginally to do with Banking disfunction. Think of Enron (which by the way Bush Jnr was implicated in).

China is a capitalist country. You should look into it some time.

Not a clue.

Br Cornelius

[Guest]

Bush was a Conservative not a Socialist so stop calling him a Nazi. If you're going to give out derogatory labels to people at least get the right ones.

Nazi's are right wing corporatist s. It was the corporations which financed them and which gained the most from the slave labour the Nazi's created. Beyond that the rest was just typical right wing oppression of the masses - as perpetrated in Pinochs Chile and many other nations which were infiltrated by Nazi's post war.

Not a clue.

Br Cornelius

[Mr Right Wing]

Corruption of the Corporate sector extends into all areas and has only marginally to do with Banking disfunction. Think of Enron (which by the way Bush Jnr was implicated in).

China is a capitalist country. You should look into it some time.

Not a clue.

Br Cornelius

Human nature is such that corruption occurs under all economic systems and styles of Government.

Under a Democracy corruption is far less than under a Communist regime because its easier to hold people to account. Under a Communist regime the party in power is also the Judge and Executioner so all allegations of corruption are easily silenced. I suggest you research into how many times over the last decade China has declared martial law due to vast civil disturbances over corrupt officials.

In a country where the economy is decentralised (capitalism) there is a huge increase in creativity, productivity and wealth. Decentralisation does increase the amount of dysfunctional behaviour if left unchecked and that can cause financial corruption. However its kept in check 99% of the time through laws, accounting regulations and audits. Because people are held to account for financial corruption its about 1/50th of that in China which you would discover if you actually bothered to do research before writing such rubbish.

China is not a capitalist state it has a mixed economy leaning heavily towards Communism. In contrast the US is also not a capitalist state. It too has a mixed economy but if leans heavily towards Capitalism. As far as I'm aware there isnt currently any country which is true capitalist which is a shame because restraining creativity, productivity and wealth holds the human race back.

[Mr Right Wing]

Nazi's are right wing corporatist s. It was the corporations which financed them and which gained the most from the slave labour the Nazi's created. Beyond that the rest was just typical right wing oppression of the masses - as perpetrated in Pinochs Chile and many other nations which were infiltrated by Nazi's post war.

Not a clue.

Br Cornelius

Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state.

You have no clue about politics and you dont even realise Nazism came from your wing. All you are missing is the racism and imperialism.

[Guest]

Nazi Germany was a totalitarian state.

You have no clue about politics and you dont even realise Nazism came from your wing. All you are missing is the racism and imperialism.

let me repeat this in simple terms - it was set up and financed by the Major corporations of Germany. it was set up to serve their interests. That makes it a corporatist state in a similar vein to Spanish Fascism. They were not socialist in any meaningful sense. They were an elitist centralised dictatorship.

Calling yourself socialist doesn't make you socialist - the Nazi's weren't and the current Chinese Government certainly isn't.

Do you think its a coincidence that the majority of fascist nazi sympathizers are to be found among the aristocracy and elites of the world. Just think about it for a second.

Br Cornelius

Edited August 14, 2012 by Guest

[Mr Right Wing]

let me repeat this in simple terms - it was set up and financed by the Major corporations of Germany. it was set up to serve their interests. That makes it a corporatist state in a similar vein to Spanish Fascism. They were not socialist in any meaningful sense. They were an elitist centralised dictatorship.

Calling yourself socialist doesn't make you socialist - the Nazi's weren't and the current Chinese Government certainly isn't.

Br Cornelius

Now you start with the conspiracy theories, ridiculas.

The Nazi Party got financing from banks, industry and business owners just like every other party does. While they would have been promised things in return the Nazi state was not setup for them. It was setup to serve the interests of the German people.

Lets say this clearly for you - National Socialist Workers Party - The Nazi party were not Conservatives or Capitalists they were Socialists. They were like the UKs Labour Party except they were also racist, xenophobic and imperialistic.

I'm tired of arguing with someone who has no clue. Do you even know what day it is?

[Guest]

Now you start with the conspiracy theories, ridiculas.

The Nazi Party got financing from banks, industry and business owners just like every other party does. While they would have been promised things in return the Nazi state was not setup for them. It was setup to serve the interests of the German people.

Lets say this clearly for you - National Socialist Workers Party - The Nazi party were not Conservatives or Capitalists they were Socialists. They were like the UKs Labour Party except they were also racist, xenophobic and imperialistic.

I'm tired of arguing with someone who has no clue. Do you even know what day it is?

Right wing man your not very bright are you.

The elites the world are populated by Fascist sympathizers. Was King George VI a socialist ? Was Prescott Bush a socialist ??

How many socialists do you know who are also Nazi sympathizers ???

Br Cornelius