33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be

[Coffey]

You literally side stepped Myles entire response to your list of "quotes".

The bloded statement above is not that same as someone statng an opinion.

"Its like you telling me you are the best IT technician in the entire UK, it is my opinion, that you are not."

^^^^ that is an opinion.

Yeah exactly, thta is an opinion..... Saying you own the goverment etc is not an opinion... When you do. so you have proven my point. LOL

[Myles]

Yeah exactly, thta is an opinion..... Saying you own the goverment etc is not an opinion... When you do. so you have proven my point. LOL

All the quotes you have posted are not proven facts. Some have much truth in them, but they are in no way evidence that one family rules the world.

Again, if they do rule the world, they are doing a p*** poor job of it.

[preacherman76]

There are facts, mixed with opinions of men who know far more about the subject then anyone here. And it isnt just one family, but a network of the top banking elite.

[preacherman76]

If they have been controlling the world for this long, they are doing a poor job of it. None of the goals that people proposed are even close to being done. I think it is all a bunch of hogwash.

They are much closer then you think. Since 9/11 massive ecomonic power has been consolidated. They have incrimentaly built a police state in America and Europe. We are one finnacial collapse away from losing status as the world reserve currency. Which is going to happen according to all the folks who saw the first crash in 08' coming.

[Coffey]

All the quotes you have posted are not proven facts. Some have much truth in them, but they are in no way evidence that one family rules the world.

Again, if they do rule the world, they are doing a p*** poor job of it.

How are they doing a p*** poor job?!

They have enough money to do what they want! lol

They make more by making wars etc. They don't care baout us, that's obvious. They just crave power and money.

[Likely Guy]

All the quotes you have posted are not proven facts. Some have much truth in them, but they are in no way evidence that one family rules the world.

Again, if they do rule the world, they are doing a p*** poor job of it.

Including quote #1. Mayer Rothschilds never said that, a convicted sexual offender named John Todd said it.

[Myles]

How are they doing a p*** poor job?! - They have supposedly been in control for hundreds of years. The world has not been transformed into anyones ideal plan.

They have enough money to do what they want! lol - They have supposedly had more than enough money for decades. What can you do with 4 trillion dollars that you cannot do with 3 trillion dollars?

They make more by making wars etc. They don't care baout us, that's obvious. They just crave power and money. They supposedly have all the power and money. What are they doing with it?

[preacherman76]

Including quote #1. Mayer Rothschilds never said that, a convicted sexual offender named John Todd said it.

I wouldnt be surprized to find out that was true. I also wouldnt be surprized if John Todd turned in a "sexual offender" after he said it.

Anyhow, got a link?

[Likely Guy]

I wouldnt be surprized to find out that was true. I also wouldnt be surprized if John Todd turned in a "sexual offender" after he said it.

Anyhow, got a link?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Todd_(occultist)

[thewonderman]

Yeah, that's correct.

Been a while since I looked into it properly. lol

it's important to correct this point as it is worse than you have stated.

they do not lend THEIR money to governments. there is no money transfer from their bank account to government bank account.

what they do is create money out of thin air, they conjure it up like a counterfeiter would. they then transfer that 'counterfeit' money to a government bank account and the government accrues a debt on which it has to pay interest. so every dollar/pound/cent in your pocket/bank account is a debt to the banks, so there is only enough money in existence to pay back the capital, and not enough to pay the capital+interest. so the money to pay the interest has to be borrowed as more debt.

if it were the case that they lent THEIR personal fortunes to governments then if a government went bankrupt, they would lose their fortunes, such a system would diminish the control they have over governments since it would be in their interest for a government's finances to be healthy. in the system we actually have, whereby they create money out of nothing, they actually have all the power and no DIRECT risk to their personal fortunes - they can bankrupt governments and gain more power over them.

Surely they would just print more money.

[Little Fish]

Surely they would just print more money.

the government does not "print money" because the government does not have the power to print money - the private central bank "prints money", then the private central bank lends that money at interest to the government when the government needs it. you'll often here on the tv news etc that "the government is printing money" but that is not true. every penny government spends, it HAS to borrow.

you also hear people say "the government should pay off the debt", but it cannot pay off the debt - there is not enough money in circulation to pay it off, such a thing would collapse the economy in a depressionary death spiral, money would be so rare that nobody would have any and you'd be reduced to barter or start using a different currency such as cigarettes or whiskey. you also hear people say that "government is irresponsible or incompetent for getting into so much debt", but this is also not true since the debt is mathematically inevitable under the private central bank system.

[DONTEATUS]

Heres a new one ! Aliens are re-directing Storm Issac into the Florida area to wipe out all the Republicans in one Swoop ! Now that High Tech !

[Likely Guy]

Heres a new one ! Aliens are re-directing Storm Issac into the Florida area to wipe out all the Republicans in one Swoop ! Now that High Tech !

Oh, come on now. You have to give us a link.

[pallidin]

Edited August 24, 2012 by pallidin

[Space Commander Travis]

How are they doing a p*** poor job?!

They have enough money to do what they want! lol

They make more by making wars etc. They don't care baout us, that's obvious. They just crave power and money.

Well, if the did have ambitions to Rule the World (insert fiendish cackle), why do they seem to be taking forever to get around to doing it, when, as has been observed, they could have done so decades or centuries ago? And if they do rule the world already, then what's happened to all these Fiendish plans to reduce the population by 90% or whatever that they supposedly have? If their whole aim was to make more and more money, how would reducing the popualtion by 90% help that? That, surely, is illogical.

[preacherman76]

http://en.wikipedia....Todd_(occultist)

Got a link where he actualy says what you are claiming?

[preacherman76]

Well, if the did have ambitions to Rule the World (insert fiendish cackle), why do they seem to be taking forever to get around to doing it, when, as has been observed, they could have done so decades or centuries ago? And if they do rule the world already, then what's happened to all these Fiendish plans to reduce the population by 90% or whatever that they supposedly have? If their whole aim was to make more and more money, how would reducing the popualtion by 90% help that? That, surely, is illogical.

The thing holding them back from my POV is the American people. But they will pull the rug out from under us soon enough.

[ZaraKitty]

And the rich have the entitlement to give away money to the poor just because?

We all know morally what is the right thing to do.

But who gives you the right to tell people what they are supposed to do with their money?

A very valid point. it's not really their responsilibily to care for the poor as it it the governments, however it is all of our duties to care for our fellow human being. This is a very large morally grey area.

[tyrant lizard]

every penny government spends, it HAS to borrow.

What about the coffers that are filled up with tax payers money?

[Little Fish]

What about the coffers that are filled up with tax payers money?

I think you missed the point.

what about it?

where did it come from?

did it come from the taxpayer?

where did the taxpayer get it from?

his private employer?

where did his employer get it?

from his customers?

who did his customers get it from, their employers and then their customers?

but where did the customers ultimately get it from?

from a loan from a private bank.

where did this private bank get it?

it either loaned it from a central bank or it created it out of thin air in the form of a loan, so loaned money goes back to the government in taxes.

but that money still came into existence in the form of a loan from a private corporation, which means it needs to be paid back with interest to that private corporation.

so all money came into existence in the form of a loan which creates a debt.

which means there is only enough money in existence to pay back the debt but not the interest.

and if you pay back that debt the money supply is reduced, which causes a depression.

perpetual and escalating debt is inevitable.

when you are in debt, you are under the control of the issuer of that debt.

which means an indebted government is controlled by the banks (look at italy and greece - unelected bankers have been put in charge).

which means governments are controlled by those that control the central banks.

who controls the central banks?

the BIS, the bank for international settlements.

who are the BIS?

a private corporation run from Basel, Switzerland which is immune to any nations laws.

what individuals control and own the BIS?

Edited August 25, 2012 by Little Fish

[Likely Guy]

Got a link where he actualy says what you are claiming?

Is your google broken?

http://www.whale.to/b/todd_h.html

Edited August 25, 2012 by Likely Guy

[Left-Field]

Again, if they do rule the world, they are doing a p*** poor job of it.

Yes, for you and me they are doing a p*** poor job of it. For themselves, however, they are doing quite well.

[Coffey]

Well, if the did have ambitions to Rule the World (insert fiendish cackle), why do they seem to be taking forever to get around to doing it, when, as has been observed, they could have done so decades or centuries ago? And if they do rule the world already, then what's happened to all these Fiendish plans to reduce the population by 90% or whatever that they supposedly have? If their whole aim was to make more and more money, how would reducing the popualtion by 90% help that? That, surely, is illogical.

What does reducing the population have to do with the "elite".....

Also it would help, as they are already rich enough now. They will care for their families own future.

Yes, for you and me they are doing a p*** poor job of it. For themselves, however, they are doing quite well.

Exactly.

Edited August 25, 2012 by Coffey

[Myles]

Yes, for you and me they are doing a p*** poor job of it. For themselves, however, they are doing quite well.

Doing what quite well?

[Left-Field]

Doing what quite well?

Maintaining their status amongst the world elite by ensuring the world continues to operate in a manner favorabable to themselves regardless of how detrimental the system is to the overwhelming majority of the population.

Edited August 27, 2012 by Angel Left Wing