Iron_Lotus Posted September 14, 2012 #51 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The theory of evolution is itself 150 years old and all it's surface appeal is replaced by glaring questions as biology has progressed leaps and bounds.The theory of evolution has to fight for it's life with every new discovery in modern biology. http://www.ridgenet....sage/v5i10f.htm http://scienceagains...info/topics.htm http://www.newgeolog...entation32.html Also ask any evolutionist to point out any instance where life has been created from non-living objects under any laboratory conditions.'Spontaneous and random creation of life' is a concept on which the whole theory is built........it states that the first life came into existence randomly under natural circumstances and then evolved.All of this has no proof at all.Until life is created artificially i will reserve my doubts about evolution. ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted September 14, 2012 #52 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Creationists are a lot like flat earthers. They both view the world through antiquated concepts based on antiquated information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Learning Posted September 14, 2012 #53 Share Posted September 14, 2012 High fives pet Raptor because no ones caught on to the conspiracy yet. ive said too much....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzieboo Posted September 14, 2012 #54 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Direct answer: No. On a more whimsical note: They still do. My husband and I, for example, have a close personal friend named Bob. He is a plesiosaur who eats only Oreo cookies. (I cannot resist adding that, according to the Google Chrome browser spell-checker, the top suggestion for the correct spelling of "plesiosaur" is "applesauce." This made my day.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzieboo Posted September 14, 2012 #55 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Creationists are a lot like flat earthers. They both view the world through antiquated concepts based on antiquated information. You forgot to mention that both groups seem to have been born with a congenital immunity to logic or scientific evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 14, 2012 Author #56 Share Posted September 14, 2012 You forgot to mention that both groups seem to have been born with a congenital immunity to logic or scientific evidence. Hello Lizzie boo,i always thought you were a die hard believer in God.Try telling that to an evolutionist,and you will be branded as a person impervious to logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 14, 2012 Author #57 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Creationists are a lot like flat earthers. They both view the world through antiquated concepts based on antiquated information. People who claim they believe in science but love to tell stories in the guise of science-evolutionists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted September 14, 2012 #58 Share Posted September 14, 2012 People who claim they believe in science but love to tell stories in the guise of science-evolutionists Yet you have been shown evidence that evolution is a reality. Your decision to ignore that reality is of course your right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippycrite Posted September 14, 2012 #59 Share Posted September 14, 2012 There's some old film footage showing dinosaurs being used as construction equipment in a rock quarry. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninhursag Posted September 14, 2012 #60 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Are You Telling Me The Flintstones Were Not Real??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted September 14, 2012 #61 Share Posted September 14, 2012 ok. speaking in layman terms, some silly questions to Harsh. You champion Devolution. So, please tell me, what have Homo Sapiens Spaines devolved from? Are there any anthropological evidences which leads to such a higher being? Do you believe that larger cranial volume means a higher being? If the older Hominids were higher beings why are there no evidences of their technology or civilizations? since the Anatomically Modern Humans or Homo sapiens sapiens evolved around 200,000 years ago, mostly in middle palaeolithic era, and we have studied and are still studying most of the cultures belonging to them, where and what are the evidences of the higher beings we devolved from? What does Cremo say about this? Does he have the cat -got-his-tongue syndrome when it comes to replying to queries regarding evidences to substantiate his claims? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted September 14, 2012 #62 Share Posted September 14, 2012 How do you think they date fossils? First, you gotta find one - usually at a bar like "Johnny's Hideaway" in Atlanta, where Glen Miller music is the featured live entertainment. Harte 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 15, 2012 Author #63 Share Posted September 15, 2012 ok. speaking in layman terms, some silly questions to Harsh. You champion Devolution. So, please tell me, what have Homo Sapiens Spaines devolved from? Are there any anthropological evidences which leads to such a higher being? Do you believe that larger cranial volume means a higher being? If the older Hominids were higher beings why are there no evidences of their technology or civilizations? since the Anatomically Modern Humans or Homo sapiens sapiens evolved around 200,000 years ago, mostly in middle palaeolithic era, and we have studied and are still studying most of the cultures belonging to them, where and what are the evidences of the higher beings we devolved from? What does Cremo say about this? Does he have the cat -got-his-tongue syndrome when it comes to replying to queries regarding evidences to substantiate his claims? I do not champion devolution but i find it interesting.Who created life or did it evolve is an answer no one can give at present hence i don't know the answer. It is not only a question of larger cranial volumes when you talk about intelligence but it is widely suggested that it is the 'brain to body ratio' that determines intelligence,but the theory has it's own criticism.The truth of the matter is intelligence and how the brain works are very poorly understood by modern scientist,leave alone memory and how it is actually stored.Talking about the functioning of the brain or intelligence is very premature with our present knowledge of it. From whom and where modern human beings evolved/or did they really evolve are again questions that are still debated widely and present objective scientific knowledge cannot answer for it without red herrings and vague assumptions,so i suppose Cremo being able to answer for it objectively is not possible. Like i said when i said i find devolution interesting i meant in it in the form of a devolution from a spiritual to a materialistic existence as suggested by Cremo.But physical devolution (i am just theorizing) Spartan is from Man to monkey and other lower animals for which there are ample 'proofs'(what evolutionist call proof i.e different species showing different levels of complexity).Hence i stated in one of my post about evolution that unless 'evolution of life' is accounted for or experimentally proved i rather believe that humans devolved into other things as it would comply atleast with the second law of thermodynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 15, 2012 Author #64 Share Posted September 15, 2012 First, you gotta find one - usually at a bar like "Johnny's Hideaway" in Atlanta, where Glen Miller music is the featured live entertainment. Harte Though seriously any opinion on these results,either radio carbon dating can be erroneous at times (often due to contamination) or probably dinosaurs did live 20000 years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippycrite Posted September 15, 2012 #65 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Are You Telling Me The Flintstones Were Not Real??!! I would never suggest such a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Supertypo Posted September 15, 2012 #66 Share Posted September 15, 2012 " did man and dinosaurs coexist?" Fast and short answer: No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted September 15, 2012 #67 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I do not champion devolution but i find it interesting. Who created life or did it evolve is an answer no one can give at present hence i don't know the answer. It is not only a question of larger cranial volumes when you talk about intelligence but it is widely suggested that it is the 'brain to body ratio' that determines intelligence,but the theory has it's own criticism.The truth of the matter is intelligence and how the brain works are very poorly understood by modern scientist,leave alone memory and how it is actually stored.Talking about the functioning of the brain or intelligence is very premature with our present knowledge of it. From whom and where modern human beings evolved/or did they really evolve are again questions that are still debated widely and present objective scientific knowledge cannot answer for it without red herrings and vague assumptions,so i suppose Cremo being able to answer for it objectively is not possible. Like i said when i said i find devolution interesting i meant in it in the form of a devolution from a spiritual to a materialistic existence as suggested by Cremo.But physical devolution (i am just theorizing) Spartan is from Man to monkey and other lower animals for which there are ample 'proofs'(what evolutionist call proof i.e different species showing different levels of complexity).Hence i stated in one of my post about evolution that unless 'evolution of life' is accounted for or experimentally proved i rather believe that humans devolved into other things as it would comply atleast with the second law of thermodynamics. You fundamentally don't understand science - everything from thermodynamics and the basics of biology to what constitutes proof and why science isn't about what you'd "rather believe"; you just don't get it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangepeaceful79 Posted September 15, 2012 #68 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Dudes I totally just figured it out. Them there humans were TIME TRAVELERS. I saw a movie about it one time. Fluxy capacitatory thingamabob er sumpthin. Oh and I read a thing on the interweb about it once, so its gotta be true. *rolleyes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Supertypo Posted September 15, 2012 #69 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Dudes I totally just figured it out. Them there humans were TIME TRAVELERS. I saw a movie about it one time. Fluxy capacitatory thingamabob er sumpthin. Oh and I read a thing on the interweb about it once, so its gotta be true. *rolleyes* About time travel Dangerous business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangepeaceful79 Posted September 15, 2012 #70 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Dangit! They have blocked youtube at my work! curses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Supertypo Posted September 15, 2012 #71 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Dangit! They have blocked youtube at my work! curses.... thats sad cuz the video is very funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 17, 2012 Author #72 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) You fundamentally don't understand science - everything from thermodynamics and the basics of biology to what constitutes proof and why science isn't about what you'd "rather believe"; you just don't get it. OK.http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/locke.html#.UFfILrJlTpo Edited September 17, 2012 by Harsh86_Patel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted September 17, 2012 #73 Share Posted September 17, 2012 OK. http://www.godandsci...ml#.UFfILrJlTpo According to your "beliefs" then bacteria cannot evolve to become resistant to anti-biotics (which of course they do). Also, in your link to yet another Ceationist website Karl Popper is referenced to support your case, but in fact Karl Popper said: Popper understood the universe as a creative entity that invents new things, including life, but without the necessity of something like a god, especially not one who is pulling strings from behind the curtain. He said that evolution must, as the creationists say, work in a goal-directed way[27] but disagreed with their view that it must necessarily be the hand of god that imposes these goals onto the stage of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted September 17, 2012 #74 Share Posted September 17, 2012 OK. http://www.godandsci...ml#.UFfILrJlTpo Evolution observed in the laboratory http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh86_Patel Posted September 17, 2012 Author #75 Share Posted September 17, 2012 According to your "beliefs" then bacteria cannot evolve to become resistant to anti-biotics (which of course they do). Also, in your link to yet another Ceationist website Karl Popper is referenced to support your case, but in fact Karl Popper said: Popper understood the universe as a creative entity that invents new things, including life, but without the necessity of something like a god, especially not one who is pulling strings from behind the curtain. He said that evolution must, as the creationists say, work in a goal-directed way[27] but disagreed with their view that it must necessarily be the hand of god that imposes these goals onto the stage of life. Do you know recent studies have shown that evolution of bacterial resistance to antibiotics never happened,the genes that give antibiotic resistance were found in bacterial cultures taken from very old frozen stocks before we started wide scale use of particular antibiotics.This means that some bacteria always had resistance to these antibiotics and over the period of time our constant use of antibiotics has killed the rest but the one's which 'always had the resistance genes' are the ones alive and multiplying.Though the example yoiu gave shows that you are ready to think,since you don't like creationist website which have hence 'the bible is right' inference,here are a few more issues you can look into. http://www.programmed-aging.org/theories/evolution_issues.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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