Still Waters Posted October 26, 2012 #1 Share Posted October 26, 2012 The question of whether we live in a real world or a simulated one has plagued philosophers for centuries - but now scientists believe they finally have found a way to test the theory. http://www.telegraph...rix-theory.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted October 26, 2012 #2 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I wonder if there would be any difference between a naturally occurring universe and a simulated one. I suppose, fundamentally, a naturally occurring universe may have a deeper sub-structure than a simulated universe. A simulated universe's structure may stop at the quantum scale and the scale at which Relativity operates. Sort of artificial, I mean. A natural universe's origins may lie much deeper than these scales, combining them in some way at a more fundamental level, even beyond string theory (if string theory is at all correct). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 26, 2012 #3 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Well, if this is a simulated universe, I want to slap the Webmaster. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidKn13ght Posted October 26, 2012 #4 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Wheres the reset button??? I need run a different simulation ....!!!!!! Edited October 26, 2012 by MidKn13ght 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnemonix Posted October 27, 2012 #5 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I feel this existence is a deception by an evil demon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 27, 2012 #6 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I wonder if there would be any difference between a naturally occurring universe and a simulated one. I suppose, fundamentally, a naturally occurring universe may have a deeper sub-structure than a simulated universe. A simulated universe's structure may stop at the quantum scale and the scale at which Relativity operates. Sort of artificial, I mean. A natural universe's origins may lie much deeper than these scales, combining them in some way at a more fundamental level, even beyond string theory (if string theory is at all correct). Naturally there will be differences as long as not everything is known about the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestilent0ne Posted October 27, 2012 #7 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Wait a minute anyone sensing a paradox too, as if the world they are going to create is how we got stuck here in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantflynn Posted October 27, 2012 #8 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Nothing to worry about . The Mayans are releasing a new up-dated version on Dec 21st . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Fluffs Posted October 27, 2012 #9 Share Posted October 27, 2012 If we are... then the being that is playing me is very twisted. :-D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted October 27, 2012 #10 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Is figuring out that we are all living in a play or simulation also part of the simulation itself? Then the gods are really mocking us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_dreamer Posted October 27, 2012 #11 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The world is really God playing Sim City. And Sim City is boring unless you create some disasters. Sad but true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Right Wing Posted October 27, 2012 #12 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I feel this existence is a deception by an evil demon. Its the evil genius argument. Due to some bizarre thought experiments in Quantum Mechanics some scientists believe death may be impossible. They have a Quantum Suicide experiment where you cant top yourself no matter how hard you try. What is most interesting is religions stance on suicide. Maybe theres a conspiracy going on to stop you doing the one thing which would make you see through the illusion? Although I cant remember the name of the British MP there was one who got carted off to the mental hospital in the 19th Century for claiming something similar to the Matrix. He claimed to have woken up and existed a reality machine only to be stuffed back in by the people there. The psychologists said he was 100% sane and realised him which is the scarey part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted October 27, 2012 #13 Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) the British MP there was one who got carted off to the mental hospital in the 19th Century for claiming something similar to the Matrix. He claimed to have woken up and existed a reality machine only to be stuffed back in by the people there. The psychologists said he was 100% sane and realised him which is the scarey part. Fascinating! Will have to look around for that story. Edited October 27, 2012 by WoIverine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Annabella Posted October 27, 2012 #14 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I honestly think scientist and philosophers sometimes, think way to much . I am not against them by any means , but naturally if you are over the top smart and always questioning things, there comes a time where you just think way to much . I know this from first hand experience .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAngel Posted October 27, 2012 #15 Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) 1st: waste of time 2nd: no one care 3rd: it's not likely we can interact with a "real" world if exists If we're in a Matrix and is a slave of the machines to used as a "battery" then I'm happily accept this simulation life. Edited October 27, 2012 by FlyingAngel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion6969 Posted October 28, 2012 #16 Share Posted October 28, 2012 What is a naturally occurring universe? One that has always been there (ifinite)? Or A universe that created itself? Or One that just popped out of nothing? All three are illogical fallacies nor scientific nor empirically backed! What's the alternative? A created/simulated universe. This means everything is a perception and true nature of reality is unknown and beyond sciences scope, creating a computer modelled simulation of virtual reality us best we can do, but like all computer programs there will be bugs due to human nature being prone to error, thus we are not perfect and can't simulate a perfect universe. For example there are no bugs in the simulation we live and exist in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted October 28, 2012 #17 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If we are pondering we live in a simulated reality, You suppose that Mario and Luigi are doing the same? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted October 28, 2012 #18 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If we are pondering we live in a simulated reality, You suppose that Mario and Luigi are doing the same? lol Eh, probably not, our code isn't anywhere near as advanced as the code used by whoever simulated us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingAngel Posted October 28, 2012 #19 Share Posted October 28, 2012 The Sims is already a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted October 29, 2012 #20 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Fascinating! Will have to look around for that story. Agreed, that would be interesting to read. Let me know if you stumble across anything, I couldn't on a few different GOOGLE sesssions... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipotep Posted October 29, 2012 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) What an absolute load of garbage ... See the first sentence in the post ..... The question of whether we live in a real world or a simulated one has plagued philosophers for centuries For centuries ? How would people who lived " pre computers " even have the comprehension to imagine a " matrix " let alone the internet etc ? I'm guessing if the movie didn't exist neither would this conversation TiP. Edited October 29, 2012 by tipotep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaostrom Posted October 29, 2012 #22 Share Posted October 29, 2012 For millenia, actually, not centuries. A simulation is not limited to computers. The idea is ancient, as Plato's well known allegory of the cave shows. I for one am interested to see if anything will come of this, but I suspect all it will do is raise more questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted October 29, 2012 #23 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Agreed, that would be interesting to read. Let me know if you stumble across anything, I couldn't on a few different GOOGLE sesssions... Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted October 29, 2012 #24 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Here's a point to ponder. Assuming this is all a simulation then what's to say the creators of it aren't in a larger one and so on to whatever level you want to take it. Multidimensional spheres within multidimensional spheres within multidimensional spheres ... kind of cool when you think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidaubmeg459 Posted October 30, 2012 #25 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Soooooo that awkward moment at camp with my cousin and the team leader might not have really happened??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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