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Yes, I read this thread just after it started and wanted to jump in when I say this. "Is the US ready for a Morman prez. I doubt it. however lets ignore that fact."

This is PURE anti-religious bias. When called out about this fact, it becomes a race issue? Nice spin, Thong. You got my head spinning! Oh, wait, lets just ignore what I just said.

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I don't get it...so rational people don't consider it at all when a group spews forth hatred and violence? Well congrats when they coming knocking on your door with pitchforks and knives and who knows what, at least you won't have considered it.

That is exactly what is not rational about it, your fears, they are ridiculous. Your fear of someone coming to my door to kill me are not sane. You are among a minority of Americans if you believe this is an actual threat. Loony.

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That is exactly what is not rational about it, your fears, they are ridiculous. Your fear of someone coming to my door to kill me are not sane. You are among a minority of Americans if you believe this is an actual threat. Loony.

Well it is an actual ideology embraced by the president, his wife, his reverend, his favorite college professor and many more whom he is close with I'm sure. So what's wrong with acknowledging that?

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That is exactly what is not rational about it, your fears, they are ridiculous. Your fear of someone coming to my door to kill me are not sane. You are among a minority of Americans if you believe this is an actual threat. Loony.

Yep. And I'm sure the Watts riots never happened, either. And those that think they did are loony, just like those that believe the holocaust actually happened.

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Well it is an actual ideology embraced by the president, his wife, his reverend, his favorite college professor and many more whom he is close with I'm sure. So what's wrong with acknowledging that?

I don't believe that. What I believe is that those who focus on this are merely racist who cannot accept our president because of their own racism.

Yep. And I'm sure the Watts riots never happened, either. And those that think they did are loony, just like those that believe the holocaust actually happened.

What does that have to do with believing someone is coming to my door with guns? You and a few others sound highly irrational. Sadly in your own minds it all makes sense. I'm going to Starbucks.

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I don't believe that. What I believe is that those who focus on this are merely racist who cannot accept our president because of their own racism.

I would take it just as seriously if a white president had attended a white supremacy based church or belonged to the KKK. The two are not so very different.

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I would take it just as seriously if a white president had attended a white supremacy based church or belonged to the KKK. The two are not so very different.

Obama has a white mother and a father who was not African-American. Black liberation theology is not a concern to me when it comes to our President. I don't find him racist. It isn't a fear.

If you take it seriously, then that is a bit kooky, but I am not losing sleep over others irrational fears.

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I don't believe that. What I believe is that those who focus on this are merely racist who cannot accept our president because of their own racism.

What does that have to do with believing someone is coming to my door with guns? You and a few others sound highly irrational. Sadly in your own minds it all makes sense. I'm going to Starbucks.

Focus shmocus, it's true. Obama only distanced himself from it after sound clips from rev Wright were released. It's pretty shallow of O to throw his racist mentor rev under the bus because it would've hurt his election chances. That in itself shows the selfish careless narcissistic personality he holds. Michelle Obama also has a history of being consumed with race. In Princeton she was a board member on the Third World Center, a race consumed minority only affirmative action club who thought the best way to mend race relations was to insist all whites are racist, kind of like you, and shun them out of discussions on how to mend race relations. Yea, that'll work.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/a-detailed-look-at-obamas-radical-college-past-and-were-not-talking-about-barack/

Michelle's group and BLT don't care about mending anything. Their goal is reverse racism and total black power since apparently we're to blame for events of 200+ years ago and the racist actions of democrats well into the 20th century.

That said it is you who is consumed with race, just like your BLT buddies. It's also funny that the topic is fact and you don't believe it but you sure as heck believe anyone who states unpleasant facts about Obama must be racist. You liberals are the only ones who ever mention race. Must be a guilty conscious for supporting the party responsible for slavery and anti-civil rights.

Btw, a liberal at Starbucks, that's a stereotype you hold up to. Doesn't taste any better than Most gas station coffee

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Obama has a white mother and a father who was not African-American. Black liberation theology is not a concern to me when it comes to our President. I don't find him racist. It isn't a fear.

If you take it seriously, then that is a bit kooky, but I am not losing sleep over others irrational fears.

So he sat in the pews for 20 years, considered the radical minister a mentor and a father figure, was married in the church and had his kids baptized in it by the same minister yet he never heard any of the virulently anti-american, anti-semetic hate filled rhetoric and wasn't touched at all by it? In fact, Obama said "I never heard any of that stuff." In 20 years Obama never heard any of that stuff when you can buy a freakin tape in the front hall and he had no idea Wright preached "that stuff"? 20 years and not a clue! Okayyy

That begs the question what in the hell is wrong with the man? I think if I sat in that church for a couple of weeks I'd have a pretty good understanding of what the message was and if I wasn't sure, I'd pick up a DVD and watch it. You buy that he never heard a word of that rhetoric and had no idea what BLT was about? Really?

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I bet he believes George Bush hates black people because Kanye West said so.

Well, if questionmark is disappointed with the results next week at least he has a strong bench waiting for the next game in 2016. Biden is putting out that he'll be pitching in 2016 and Hillary is saying 69 isn't to old to start as president. So, Biden and Hillary, yeah, that.....sounds.... good.

Well, at least to me it sounds good. :clap:

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Well, if questionmark is disappointed with the results next week at least he has a strong bench waiting for the next game in 2016. Biden is putting out that he'll be pitching a run in 2016 and Hillary is saying 69 isn't to old to start as president. So, Biden and Hillary, yeah, that.....sounds.... good.

Well, at least to me it sounds good. :clap:

Goodness. Could even the dems get behind such a joke of a ticket? Surely they must have some serious contenders by then. The Clinton's just need to take their place in history. What's their, or her, obsession with the whitehouse? Is it simply to make history as a woman? They're so rich and old. Why not just kick back and relax? Biden as CiC? He just comes off as such a buffoon.

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You're right though. I'll take that ticket. Just means 4 more years of no dems.

In 2016 though I'm likely voting third party unless Romney proves worthy of more than a simple fix. This year, in my state I'm voting all libertarians except for the pres.

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Goodness. Could even the dems get behind such a joke of a ticket? Surely they must have some serious contenders by then. The Clinton's just need to take their place in history. What's their, or her, obsession with the whitehouse? Is it simply to make history as a woman? They're so rich and old. Why not just kick back and relax? Biden as CiC? He just comes off as such a buffoon.

LOL. Remember the dopes in the media were all screaming (literally) how Biden brought gravitas to the ticket. I was always wondering what in the hell they were talking about, the man is an idiot. Good lord what scam 2008 was. The real bad guys are the media. It is a crime what they have done over the last 5 years.

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You're right though. I'll take that ticket. Just means 4 more years of no dems.

In 2016 though I'm likely voting third party unless Romney proves worthy of more than a simple fix. This year, in my state I'm voting all libertarians except for the pres.

Right there with ya bro. Let's hope Mitt brings it. If he pulls a Bush and goes leftie we are done anyways as this may be a last chance thing.

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I know some might poo-poo this because I just googled it, but here's more on Obama's BLT

http://www.barackoba...bsession-01.htm

For several decades, racial animus had ceased to exist in the hearts of the vast majority of whites, although it was carefully nurtured and institutionalized within much of the black community. The author Eric Hoffer once wrote that a movement tends to become an institution which then morphs into a racket.

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So he sat in the pews for 20 years, considered the radical minister a mentor and a father figure, was married in the church and had his kids baptized in it by the same minister yet he never heard any of the virulently anti-american, anti-semetic hate filled rhetoric and wasn't touched at all by it? In fact, Obama said "I never heard any of that stuff." In 20 years Obama never heard any of that stuff when you can buy a freakin tape in the front hall and he had no idea Wright preached "that stuff"? 20 years and not a clue! Okayyy

That begs the question what in the hell is wrong with the man? I think if I sat in that church for a couple of weeks I'd have a pretty good understanding of what the message was and if I wasn't sure, I'd pick up a DVD and watch it. You buy that he never heard a word of that rhetoric and had no idea what BLT was about? Really?

Well, he's been sitting in the Oval Office for 4 years and he hasn't heard a word of most of the American People ,so I believe he could have not heard Rev Wright. :w00t: Edited by DieChecker
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Obama has a white mother and a father who was not African-American. Black liberation theology is not a concern to me when it comes to our President. I don't find him racist. It isn't a fear.

If you take it seriously, then that is a bit kooky, but I am not losing sleep over others irrational fears.

Obama identifies himself as black and his father is black. You do know that not all blacks are from Africa don't you? :rolleyes:

So I can assume you wouldn't mind a president that was a member of the KKK.

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Well, he's been sitting in the Oval Office for 4 years and he hasn't heard a word of most of the American People ,so I believe he could have not heard Rev Wright. :w00t:

LMAO Touche' :clap:

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http://www.decodedsc...spiracy/19787/2

In the months leading up to the 2012 presidential election, virtually every major poll has had President Barack Obama leading over Republican challenger Mitt Romney. However, critics contend the polls have a built-in bias intended to boost Obama’s numbers.

At issue is the number of Democrats sampled for polls compared to Republicans. In many major polls, a significantly higher number of self-reported Democrats are surveyed. Some Republicans say this skews the polls in favor of Obama while those supporting the polling methodology argue it simply reflects the reality of a larger Democratic voting base.

Meanwhile, a September study from Rasmussen Reports indicates Republicans may have the upper-hand when it comes to sheer numbers in 2012. The polling firm found, as of August 2012, 37.6 percent of Americans considered themselves Republicans compared to 33.3 percent who self-identified as Democrats.
Perhaps making an even bigger case against polls weighted toward Democrats may be the advantage Republicans have in terms of likely voters. An October poll from the Pew Research Center finds 76 percent of those who are Republican or lean Republican say they are likely to vote in the presidential election. Only 62 percent of those who are Democrat or lean Democrat can say the same.

This shows the same kind of numbers. The Dem skewed polling reflects the voter base in 2008, not the base in 2012. Romney could still pull this one out, regardless of Obama being ahead in many places. The media is trying to make this a self fulfilling prophesy, where they predict what will happen and then try very hard to convince the public that they are right.

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Says something about the condition of the US political business that people still have Party affiliations, doesn't it. That people still believe that voting Repub or Dem will make their life better or make America a Better place . the only thing voting Repub would do would be to make America's wars more overt than the cloak and dagger assasinations of Merca's Enemies that Obama specialised in. Otherwise the only thing that Romeny, being as he is blatantly incompetent, will do will make a pig's ear of things and spend four years blaming it on Oblomov. It's all so tedious.

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Says something about the condition of the US political business that people still have Party affiliations, doesn't it. That people still believe that voting Repub or Dem will make their life better or make America a Better place . the only thing voting Repub would do would be to make America's wars more overt than the cloak and dagger assasinations of Merca's Enemies that Obama specialised in. Otherwise the only thing that Romeny, being as he is blatantly incompetent, will do will make a pig's ear of things and spend four years blaming it on Oblomov. It's all so tedious.

74700,

What part of Romneys past brings you to the conclusion that he is incompetent? He's an enormously successful business man, has raised a large and seemingly good family, was a governor and headed the Olympics once. Maybe you don't care for those things but that all seems to be completely opposite of incompetent. That said, what would be your definition of competent?

IMO, I foresee Romney, if elected, holding himself more in the manner of GWBush meaning that he will accept responsibility and take the lumps which is a character of good leadership which also means the blaming and scolding takes place behind closed doors and not in front of cameras and microphones. I don't remember Bush publicly scolding the SCOTUS and democrats. If he did, it wasnt often. Barack Manchild Obama is famous for doing all these things, constantly throughout his tenure.

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74700,

What part of Romneys past brings you to the conclusion that he is incompetent? He's an enormously successful business man, has raised a large and seemingly good family, was a governor and headed the Olympics once. Maybe you don't care for those things but that all seems to be completely opposite of incompetent. That said, what would be your definition of competent?

IMO, I foresee Romney, if elected, holding himself more in the manner of GWBush meaning that he will accept responsibility and take the lumps which is a character of good leadership which also means the blaming and scolding takes place behind closed doors and not in front of cameras and microphones. I don't remember Bush publicly scolding the SCOTUS and democrats. If he did, it wasnt often. Barack Manchild Obama is famous for doing all these things, constantly throughout his tenure.

No, you could be right, it could be Dem propaganda of course. Although I'm not sure if the comparison with GW is the most reassuring, particularly in the field of international relations. :cry: Still, at least he's no Sarah Palin, which I think was almost certainly one of the main reasons why people were scared off of McCain.

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No, you could be right, it could be Dem propaganda of course. Although I'm not sure if the comparison with GW is the most reassuring, particularly in the field of international relations. :cry: Still, at least he's no Sarah Palin, which I think was almost certainly one of the main reasons why people were scared off of McCain.

I think McCain ruined his own game more than Palin did. He was a soft opponent. Other than that, the GW comparison was purely about character and nothing about governing.

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