preacherman76 Posted November 14, 2012 #126 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The problem is simple. as yiuo stated.. he rules as OLIGARCHY type government, to bad this was a DEMOCRACY type country.. "WE THE PEOPLE" now a few people that make the rules. but we as a nation vote and make the rules.. ive said it before, ill say it again.. he is a socialist.. and oligarchy then be it.. (which is not true) but say it is.. still not the way this country was built on.. not for 43 previous presidents!! This guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing!!! I wasnt defending him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 14, 2012 #127 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Really? Yes really. You spend far to much time listening to him, instead of watching what he actualy does. He is sold out through and through to banks and big corperations. If all you did was look at his actions, this wouldnt even be a question. BTW its just as bad as being a socialist. In some ways worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 14, 2012 #128 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The problem is simple. as yiuo stated.. he rules as OLIGARCHY type government, to bad this was a DEMOCRACY type country.. "WE THE PEOPLE" now a few people that make the rules. but we as a nation vote and make the rules.. ive said it before, ill say it again.. he is a socialist.. and oligarchy then be it.. (which is not true) but say it is.. still not the way this country was built on.. not for 43 previous presidents!! This guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing!!! BTW this isnt a democracy either. Its a constitutional republic. Just so we are clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 14, 2012 #129 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Yes really. You spend far to much time listening to him, instead of watching what he actualy does. He is sold out through and through to banks and big corperations. If all you did was look at his actions, this wouldnt even be a question. BTW its just as bad as being a socialist. In some ways worse. I don't spend much time at all listening to him. He is a liar through and through. And...it isn't that HE has sold out to the banks and big corps...if anything it is that THEY have sold out...to him! The banks didn't bail him out now did they? No one saved his ass from bankrupcy court did they? mmm hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted November 14, 2012 #130 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I don't spend much time at all listening to him. He is a liar through and through. And...it isn't that HE has sold out to the banks and big corps...if anything it is that THEY have sold out...to him! The banks didn't bail him out now did they? No one saved his ass from bankrupcy court did they? mmm hmmm But 0bama didnt bail out the banks. Not the first time anyway. That was Bush, who was also owned by the banks. The ties between government, the federal reserve, and goldman sachs is as deep as it is undeniable. 0bama is just a bank puppet, same as Bush was, same as Clinton, ect ect ect. You give 0bama way to much credit. He's just a front man. No way are the most powerful people on the planet going to bow to him. He takes his orders from them, thats why it was even possible for him to be re-elected. They would put a bullet in his head long before they took orders from him. Just ask JFK. Oh wait, you cant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 15, 2012 #131 Share Posted November 15, 2012 But 0bama didnt bail out the banks. Not the first time anyway. That was Bush, who was also owned by the banks. The ties between government, the federal reserve, and goldman sachs is as deep as it is undeniable. 0bama is just a bank puppet, same as Bush was, same as Clinton, ect ect ect. You give 0bama way to much credit. He's just a front man. No way are the most powerful people on the planet going to bow to him. He takes his orders from them, thats why it was even possible for him to be re-elected. They would put a bullet in his head long before they took orders from him. Just ask JFK. Oh wait, you cant. Again, you are missing something...Bush is not owned by the banks...geeez man, clue up on things, for real!...the Bush's OWN the banks...and the reason JFK was shot in the head: because he wanted to change the dollar...he had just introduced the Silver Back...which was backed by Silver Reserves. That's why he is dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 16, 2012 #132 Share Posted November 16, 2012 but we as a nation vote and make the rules.. ive said it before, ill say it again.. he is a socialist.. and oligarchy then be it.. (which is not true) So why say it if you know it's not true. The nation did vote. It's clear which ideas won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 16, 2012 #133 Share Posted November 16, 2012 White people are now the minority.. I really liked what O'Reilly said, “The white establishment is now the minority,” O'Reilly said. So can you explain why this in important to you and the gas bag? (well besides the fact that it means the republicans will have fewer members) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummug Posted November 16, 2012 #134 Share Posted November 16, 2012 By 2016 the Government will be bankrupt. When you consider the 16 trillion debt, arguably it is now (bankrupt). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummug Posted November 16, 2012 #135 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) Again, you are missing something...Bush is not owned by the banks...geeez man, clue up on things, for real!...the Bush's OWN the banks...and the reason JFK was shot in the head: because he wanted to change the dollar...he had just introduced the Silver Back...which was backed by Silver Reserves. That's why he is dead. I heard he was murdered because he wanted to shut down the Federal Reserve. I guess a similar reason...he wanted to strengthen the dollar. I thought this was interesting: Edited November 16, 2012 by Gummug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerberusxp Posted November 16, 2012 #136 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) Collective suicide! Just like the Jim Jones followers. Edited November 16, 2012 by cerberusxp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerberusxp Posted November 16, 2012 #137 Share Posted November 16, 2012 When you consider the 16 trillion debt, arguably it is now (bankrupt). The real number is $222 trillion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 16, 2012 #138 Share Posted November 16, 2012 When you consider the 16 trillion debt, arguably it is now (bankrupt). Not possible. bank·rupt/ˈbaNGkˌrəpt/ Adjective: (of a person or organization) Declared in law unable to pay outstanding debts: "the company was declared bankrupt". Noun: A person judged by a court to be insolvent, whose property is taken and disposed of for the benefit of creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 16, 2012 #139 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Not possible. bank·rupt/ˈbaNGkˌrəpt/ Adjective: (of a person or organization) Declared in law unable to pay outstanding debts: "the company was declared bankrupt". Noun: A person judged by a court to be insolvent, whose property is taken and disposed of for the benefit of creditors. So the US cannot ever, under any circumstances be found incapable of paying it's obligations to foreign creditors in a manner they deem acceptable? Or is your point that since we can print dollars we will always be able to pay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummug Posted November 17, 2012 #140 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The real number is $222 trillion! I knew it was actually higher than 16 trillion, but wow! Lord have mercy on us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 18, 2012 #141 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) I heard he was murdered because he wanted to shut down the Federal Reserve. I guess a similar reason...he wanted to strengthen the dollar. I thought this was interesting: [media=] [/media] One of my Rock Idols...the Late Great Frank Zappa once wrote a song...here are the lyrics. I am gross and perverted, I am obsessed and deranged, I have existed for years but, very little has changed I'm a tool of the government and industry too...for I am destined to rule and regulate you I may be vile and pernicious, but you can't walk away, I'll make you think I'm delicious with the stuff that I say I'm the best you can get...have you guessed me yet? I'm the slime oozing out from your TV set You will obey me while I lead you and eat the garbage that I feed you Until the day that I don't need you Don't cry for help, no one will heed you Your mind is totally controlled, it has been stuffed into my mold And you shall do as you are told, unitl the rights to you are sold! Edited November 18, 2012 by joc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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