F3SS Posted November 14, 2012 #51 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Mostly large men. I'm working on getting my concealed carry so I can carry a wee little pistol in my purse. And that gives you what? A peace of mind and added sense of security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted November 14, 2012 #52 Share Posted November 14, 2012 And that gives you what? A peace of mind and added sense of security? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted November 14, 2012 #53 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Exactly. Thank you lady of many faces. My thoughts are vindicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 15, 2012 #54 Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Dude, my scenario was obviously circumstantial. The police aren't an option. It's an emergency situation likely in a societal breakdown where your on your own. if you believe in "societal breakdown" and zombies, you have bigger problems than owning a gun. Possibly too much video gaming or horror movies. Get out more. Edited November 15, 2012 by ninjadude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted November 15, 2012 #55 Share Posted November 15, 2012 if you believe in "societal breakdown" and zombies, you have bigger problems than owning a gun. Possibly too much video gaming or horror movies. Get out more. You're right. I talk about zombies way too much. You've got me. I'm zombie guy. For the record though, societal breakdown is a possibility of human existence. Or is that unproven science fiction too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted November 15, 2012 #56 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Three things come to mind. A paranoid society, a society full of criminals or a paranoid society full of criminals who watch too many gangster movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 16, 2012 #57 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) You're right. I talk about zombies way too much. You've got me. I'm zombie guy. For the record though, societal breakdown is a possibility of human existence. Or is that unproven science fiction too? It's becoming more in the realm of sciFy all the time. That's why we watch it on TV. Whole areas of Japan were wiped out by Tsunami. No break down. Whole areas of NJ wiped out. No break down. Katrina, well there were some area of break down. I could blame that on the Bush admin ... Edited November 16, 2012 by ninjadude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted November 16, 2012 #58 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) It's becoming more in the realm of sciFy all the time. That's why we watch it on TV. Whole areas of Japan were wiped out by Tsunami. No break down. Whole areas of NJ wiped out. No break down. Katrina, well there were some area of break down. I could blame that on the Bush admin ... Yes civilization has come a longways but I never said it is going to happen soon but happen it could. Edited November 16, 2012 by -Mr_Fess- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted November 16, 2012 #59 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It's becoming more in the realm of sciFy all the time. That's why we watch it on TV. Whole areas of Japan were wiped out by Tsunami. No break down. Whole areas of NJ wiped out. No break down. Katrina, well there were some area of break down. I could blame that on the Bush admin ... Im curious, ninja, what are your thoughts on foreign invasion? I believe the Japanese, in WW2, said something along the lines of them being unable to invade the US because behind every blade of grass will be an american with a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted November 16, 2012 #60 Share Posted November 16, 2012 It was supposed to be Isoroku Yamamoto, chief-commander of the Japanese navy, to have said that, but it is only a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllJay Posted November 16, 2012 #61 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Im curious, ninja, what are your thoughts on foreign invasion? I believe the Japanese, in WW2, said something along the lines of them being unable to invade the US because behind every blade of grass will be an american with a gun. That is just a NRA bedtime story. "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." It has been declared this attribution is "unsubstantiated and almost certainly bogus, even though it has been repeated thousands of times in various Internet postings. There is no record of the commander in chief of Japan’s wartime fleet ever saying it.", Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted November 16, 2012 #62 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well, if it's a myth, then so be it. The sentiment, however, stands. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 16, 2012 #63 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Im curious, ninja, what are your thoughts on foreign invasion? I believe the Japanese, in WW2, said something along the lines of them being unable to invade the US because behind every blade of grass will be an american with a gun. You're still living in the past. That was what 67 YEARS ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 16, 2012 #64 Share Posted November 16, 2012 You're still living in the past. That was what 67 YEARS ago. City dwellers in the "Land of Lincoln" may be pushover patsies for the criminal element that flourishes there but when that type decide to break into a home in say, Montgomery Alabama....well.... lets just say they better have kevlar underwear. And in fact I don't even need to pick on Illinois, ANY big city dwellers could be accused of the same thing. Small town people just have a different take AND a different answer for thieves and thugs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted November 18, 2012 #65 Share Posted November 18, 2012 You're still living in the past. That was what 67 YEARS ago. So you're telling me that wars dont and wont happen? It's impossible that at some point the US is invaded in a major war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted November 19, 2012 #66 Share Posted November 19, 2012 It's impossible that at some point the US is invaded in a major war? lets just say highly unlikely. You've been watching too much teevee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted November 19, 2012 #67 Share Posted November 19, 2012 So you're telling me that wars dont and wont happen? It's impossible that at some point the US is invaded in a major war? Depends on who and how IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted November 19, 2012 #68 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Well, if it's a myth, then so be it. The sentiment, however, stands. The sentiment that there's a mistaken belief that we are secure because people are able to own weapons in order to take out better trained and equipped invasion forces? There's a reason the Second Amendment included well regulated militia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted November 19, 2012 #69 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The sentiment that there's a mistaken belief that we are secure because people are able to own weapons in order to take out better trained and equipped invasion forces? There's a reason the Second Amendment included well regulated militia. Ah, but some think that well regulated means the Michigan irregulars stomping through the woods with a case of beer Saturday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted November 19, 2012 #70 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) It's cool that the founders wrote the 2nd amendment into the constitution as a means of citizen defense against an oppressive government but seriously who cares what the technicalities are in that instance? What I mean is that its specific to a well regulated militia but if you're about to fight the government with guns then it doesn't matter what their rules are. It's like doing what your enemy tells you to in a fight. Does that make any sense? I think I'm having trouble articulating that thought. Edit: When people, usually those against guns, say well you're really not allowed to have guns unless your part of a militia I can only assume they mean a government approved militia but when the governments the bad guy then it doesn't really matter what they approve of. It's too late. A gun fight will ensue. Edited November 19, 2012 by -Mr_Fess- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted November 20, 2012 #71 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) I can't believe people are really serious enough to think they're going to make a difference against professional troops. Unless people believe there is danger of an invasion from the Virgin Islands, any nation in the world contemplating an invasion on US soil would have to equip their troops with highly sophisticated weaponry. During a ground invasion, the force of their armored vehicles, helicopters, fighters, assault rifles, machine guns, missile launchers etc. etc. would scare the living daylights out of any pop gun equipped militia. It's not the 1700's anymore. Anyway, there is no danger of this happening any soon because no country in the world has the interest, technology or equipment to carry out such an invasion, not even China. You would have to think that spending 700 billion US$ each year on national security (against China's 120 billion US$ each year which is the world's second highest nation for military expenditure) would safe guard from outside invasions, so don't worry boys and girls you can safely put away your pop guns. Edited November 20, 2012 by BlackRedLittleDevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 20, 2012 #72 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Why Is america or I should say the US and it`s people actually going to use the second ammendment for its intended purpose. Or are you guys all going to go gangster in the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted November 20, 2012 #73 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I can't believe people are really serious enough to think they're going to make a difference against professional troops. Unless people believe there is danger of an invasion from the Virgin Islands, any nation in the world contemplating an invasion on US soil would have to equip their troops with highly sophisticated weaponry. During a ground invasion, the force of their armored vehicles, helicopters, fighters, assault rifles, machine guns, missile launchers etc. etc. would scare the living daylights out of any pop gun equipped militia. It's not the 1700's anymore. Anyway, there is no danger of this happening any soon because no country in the world has the interest, technology or equipment to carry out such an invasion, not even China. You would have to think that spending 700 billion US$ each year on national security (against China's 120 billion US$ each year which is the world's second highest nation for military expenditure) would safe guard from outside invasions, so don't worry boys and girls you can safely put away your pop guns. I dont care what anyone thinks,I am not putting anything away since they re=elected that America hating Obama. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted November 20, 2012 #74 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I can't believe people are really serious enough to think they're going to make a difference against professional troops. Unless people believe there is danger of an invasion from the Virgin Islands, any nation in the world contemplating an invasion on US soil would have to equip their troops with highly sophisticated weaponry. During a ground invasion, the force of their armored vehicles, helicopters, fighters, assault rifles, machine guns, missile launchers etc. etc. would scare the living daylights out of any pop gun equipped militia. It's not the 1700's anymore. Anyway, there is no danger of this happening any soon because no country in the world has the interest, technology or equipment to carry out such an invasion, not even China. You would have to think that spending 700 billion US$ each year on national security (against China's 120 billion US$ each year which is the world's second highest nation for military expenditure) would safe guard from outside invasions, so don't worry boys and girls you can safely put away your pop guns. Well that doesn't mean we shouldn't have guns. More importantly, that doesn't mean we can't have guns. The issue isn't wether or not citizens can fight off the military it's about our constitutional right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted November 20, 2012 #75 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It's cool that the founders wrote the 2nd amendment into the constitution as a means of citizen defense against an oppressive government but seriously who cares what the technicalities are in that instance? What I mean is that its specific to a well regulated militia but if you're about to fight the government with guns then it doesn't matter what their rules are. It's like doing what your enemy tells you to in a fight. Does that make any sense? I think I'm having trouble articulating that thought. Edit: When people, usually those against guns, say well you're really not allowed to have guns unless your part of a militia I can only assume they mean a government approved militia but when the governments the bad guy then it doesn't really matter what they approve of. It's too late. A gun fight will ensue. Well isn't the big fear about the federal government? Seems to be given all the talk about how great state rights are. So wouldn't state approved militia be fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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