Abramelin Posted December 31, 2012 #3726 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Zoser, answer the post I linked to. Please. . Edited December 31, 2012 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted December 31, 2012 #3727 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Stop jumping from subject to subject like an ODed aardwark. Show analysis of vitrification on granite. Zoser doesn't have an opinion of himself, he just gobbled up what he wanted to believe. I want to believe too, but I haven't found any proof of my preferred belief. Zoser, anyone, show me proof of aliens visiting Peru or Bolivia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted December 31, 2012 #3728 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Zoser, answer the post I linked to. Please. . Zoser: What was the question, again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted December 31, 2012 #3729 Share Posted December 31, 2012 And the stone body is limestone. Does it have anything to do with granite? Forgot to mention that again. Only a vanishingly thin layer of rock exhibits this condition, whatever it is. The underlying rock is unaffected. If this holds true for the andesite too, that kills the "fused into shape" angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted December 31, 2012 #3730 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Zoser: What was the question, again? He knows, but he loves to ignore it. But *I* am stubborn to, and I will repeat my question as much as needed.. . Edited December 31, 2012 by Abramelin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted December 31, 2012 #3731 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Zoser doesn't have an opinion of himself, he just gobbled up what he wanted to believe. [...] He does have an opinion, it just vitrified in his grey matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted December 31, 2012 #3732 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Forgot to mention that again. Only a vanishingly thin layer of rock exhibits this condition, whatever it is. The underlying rock is unaffected. If this holds true for the andesite too, that kills the "fused into shape" angle. Yeap, pretty much, though I expect sound carving and then heating from zoser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3733 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Zoser, please answer this post of mine: http://www.unexplain...90#entry4602845 Just read it. Not very likely that Hydrocephalus was the cause. For a start it's a serious medical condition: Hydrocephalus (pron.: /ˌhaɪdrɵˈsɛfələs/), also known as "water on the brain," is a medical condition in which there is an abnormal accumulation of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in the ventricles, or cavities, of the brain. This may cause increased intracranial pressureinside the skull and progressive enlargement of the head, convulsion, tunnel vision, and mental disability. Hydrocephalus can also cause death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus We have no evidence that these people suffered chronic conditions. Eyes that appear to gaze downward Irritability Seizures Separated sutures Sleepiness VomitingBrief, shrill, high-pitched cry Changes in personality, memory, or the ability to reason or think Changes in facial appearance and eye spacing Crossed eyes or uncontrolled eye movements Difficulty feeding Excessive sleepiness Headache Irritability, poor temper control Loss of bladder control (urinary incontinence) Loss of coordination and trouble walking Muscle spasticity (spasm) Slow growth (child 0–5 years) Slow or restricted movement Vomiting [1] The sutures in fact do the opposite. They don't separate in the cone heads they do the opposite. They look more fused. The refutation is this: Look at a child with hydrocephalus : Notice how the pressure causes a balloon like effect. Not this: QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted December 31, 2012 #3734 Share Posted December 31, 2012 And what causes a 'glaze'. Indeed what could cause the effect? Theory is still strong and holding......... Love the poetry btw. Try my link for one, esp. the part about masonry use. A low-temperature chemically bonded agent needs to be ruled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted December 31, 2012 #3735 Share Posted December 31, 2012 We all have provided Zoser with ideas about how things could have been done. But he never ever provided us with how HE thinks things could have been done. All he suggests is that we don't know how they (the ancients) did it., and so it must be aliens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted December 31, 2012 #3736 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I wish you all a Happy New Year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3737 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I wish you all a Happy New Year. You too Abe. And HNY to everyone else here. But before you go Abe: This is a highly significant clip: Vitrification on the holes through the wall! Why apply acid brew there? Clearly no desert varnish effect either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3738 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Try my link for one, esp. the part about masonry use. A low-temperature chemically bonded agent needs to be ruled out. Same comments as for Abe's acid brew theory. Where does it come from, how was it made in industrial quantities and why are we not using it today? These questions reduce the credibility of such ideas to the point of dismissal. Edited December 31, 2012 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3739 Share Posted December 31, 2012 We all have provided Zoser with ideas about how things could have been done. But he never ever provided us with how HE thinks things could have been done. I hardly mention aliens if you notice. Other people seem to quite a lot. I'm more keen on establishing the use of high technology. Then to see what that might imply. As I said to seeder, no one is going to unearth a flying saucer at Ollyantaytambo packed with stone cutting lasers. With just a bit of debunking and detective work there is need to unearth one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3740 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Forgot to mention that again. Only a vanishingly thin layer of rock exhibits this condition, whatever it is. The underlying rock is unaffected. If this holds true for the andesite too, that kills the "fused into shape" angle. Wrong. Take a look at this example of fused blocks from Macchu Picchu: Proves that it's not just 'skin deep'. Plus you need to explain the 'step' effect below. Difficult to believe that was part of the design: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted December 31, 2012 #3741 Share Posted December 31, 2012 It would just be nice to see more in the way of technical contributions. Nothing wrong with your avatars. Everything I want to say is in my last post; if the cap fits.......... What I'm saying is that I'm never likely to take comments seriously from people who never make contributions. Maybe they have some ulterior motive I don't know. perhaps if you bothered to actually read posts from other people instead of glazing over them you would see that i have in fact contributed to this thread several times in any case, i find it a bit amusing that of all the people who post on this thread you seem to like to jab me - i'm all blushing and stuff now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted December 31, 2012 #3742 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Same comments as for Abe's acid brew theory. Where does it come from, how was it made in industrial quantities and why are we not using it today? These questions reduce the credibility of such ideas to the point of dismissal. Depends on how easy it was to obtain the ingredients and make, doesn't it? Figure, Egypt had enough natron and fancy resins and such to caramel coat their entire population for thousands of years. No-one's ever had any great difficulty finding enough charcoal, sulfur and bird poop to supply the world with gunpowder in all this time either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted December 31, 2012 #3743 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Wrong. Take a look at this example of fused blocks from Macchu Picchu: Proves that it's not just 'skin deep'. Plus you need to explain the 'step' effect below. Difficult to believe that was part of the design: Hmmm. My X-ray specs must be cocking up on me. I can only see the outside of the rock. Oddly, I do seem to be seeing what look like mineral grains though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted December 31, 2012 #3744 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Happy New Year!*!*!* ... the video in your post #3737 above answered a question for me zoser ... the precision fits , in this case at least, do continue through the thickness of the wall and are not just at the surface. That impresses and mystifies me no end if it also applies to walls involving great weights ... like these: I have never heard a sensible explanation for how such fits could be made across the entire width while, simultaneously , coping with such extreme weights. Are there proven examples of "face" fitting.. with filler behind? Is that the case at Sacsayhuaman? .. anyone KNOW? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oniomancer Posted December 31, 2012 #3745 Share Posted December 31, 2012 perhaps if you bothered to actually read posts from other people instead of glazing over them you would see that i have in fact contributed to this thread several times in any case, i find it a bit amusing that of all the people who post on this thread you seem to like to jab me - i'm all blushing and stuff now It's like the little boy on the playground that pushes the girl because he Likes her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3746 Share Posted December 31, 2012 perhaps if you bothered to actually read posts from other people instead of glazing over them you would see that i have in fact contributed to this thread several times in any case, i find it a bit amusing that of all the people who post on this thread you seem to like to jab me - i'm all blushing and stuff now Don't worry. All's well. Perhaps if you would be a bit more sensitive in terms of how you refer to me? Have a think aboot it. HNY It's like the little boy on the playground that pushes the girl because he Likes her. Well now I'm blushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3747 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Happy New Year!*!*!* ... the video in your post #3737 above answered a question for me zoser ... the precision fits , in this case at least, do continue through the thickness of the wall and are not just at the surface. That impresses and mystifies me no end if it also applies to walls involving great weights ... like these: I have never heard a sensible explanation for how such fits could be made across the entire width while, simultaneously , coping with such extreme weights. Are there proven examples of "face" fitting.. with filler behind? Is that the case at Sacsayhuaman? .. anyone KNOW? That's ok The precision artefacts that I have seen particularly on Brien Foerster's youtube channel all show precision fits in 3 dimensions and not just on the outer faces. Remember there are several types of building work but generally it fits into precision megalithic (huge cuboid and polygonal) and then the cruder less precise work with boulders and adobe cement. The mainstream version is that the Inca did it all. The people who have investigated a little deeper such as Foerster who has lived in Peru for a while now insists that the precision work was done by a much earlier and more advanced culture. That also agrees with the theories of Alfredo Gamarra who studied Peruvian and Bolivian relics for decades. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3748 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hmmm. My X-ray specs must be cocking up on me. I can only see the outside of the rock. Oddly, I do seem to be seeing what look like mineral grains though. Mr O if you check out my earlier post, I cited the video's where these snapshots came from. The videos will show it more clearly. I would be interested to know what you conclude: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=237842&st=3525&p=4600542entry4600542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted December 31, 2012 #3749 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Perhaps if you would be a bit more sensitive in terms of how you refer to me? Have a think aboot it. not sure what you're referring to here zoser - could you perhaps elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 31, 2012 #3750 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) not sure what you're referring to here zoser - could you perhaps elaborate? Sure. When you refer to me it always comes across in a derogatory or 'put down' way. You are by no means alone. I don't want to dredge through past posts or waste time arguing. The best thing would be to agree to a reset perhaps? Got to go and 'party' now anyway Z Edited December 31, 2012 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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