Crikey Posted January 21, 2013 #5451 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ..There is not one scrap of physical evidence let behind. Not a shred of torn uniform, not a misplaced book, not a lost shoe, nothing. Not even a footprint.... Think "Prime Directive" non-interference policy! The Federation learnt long ago that if you mess with a planetary civilisation's natural development, it can cause trouble. Sometimes they felt they HAD to intervene, for example to stop an earthquake or nova etc from trashing a planet, but in every case they took pains to ensure their presence wasn't revealed, so they "cleaned up" after themselves to leave no evidence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crikey Posted January 21, 2013 #5452 Share Posted January 21, 2013 It doesn't need 20 pages to explain it, its a single post by me.. but I cant be bothered to look thru last 20 pages and find it. Ive done tonnes of research for this thread. . Why should you have to search for your post that explains jigsaw walls? If the explanation is so simple, can't you remember it without having to go look it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5453 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) lol and spirit beings aren't interdimensional beings? you call it vandalism, so trolling. what about the later paintings? those can't be secret military craft. i see you are p***ed off. my efforts to carry on the work of the ancient trolls is going well. have a look at first few minutes of this vid..to see your ancient alien figures...in a different light [media=] [/media]if you like it and watch it all, (something I know is excruciating for pro AA believers to do), then you'll find part one to watch too. Edited January 21, 2013 by seeder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 21, 2013 #5454 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Think "Prime Directive" non-interference policy! The Federation learnt long ago that if you mess with a planetary civilisation's natural development, it can cause trouble. Sometimes they felt they HAD to intervene, for example to stop an earthquake or nova etc from trashing a planet, but in every case they took pains to ensure their presence wasn't revealed, so they "cleaned up" after themselves to leave no evidence.. That is for pre warp civilisation, not to mention, a TV show. It is not what we do though is it. We conquered the Americas, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, you name it without a second thought to a prime directive. Cook got of the boat and walked up and introduced himself. We traded, fought, lost and won. Before this time, natives were trading across Oceans in Australia's top end for trade. In real life, we do not give a second thought to a prime directive or other. But if we are observing animals in nature, then we will remain covert to study them, because we cannot just walk up to a tiger and say "How do you usually bring down a Gazelle? Is it hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 21, 2013 #5455 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Why should you have to search for your post that explains jigsaw walls? If the explanation is so simple, can't you remember it without having to go look it up? He has already done the work, and presented it well, is it fair of you to ask him to repeat it because you have not bothered with the last 20 pages? Nobody likes doing things twice do they. Edited January 21, 2013 by psyche101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5456 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Why should you have to search for your post that explains jigsaw walls? If the explanation is so simple, can't you remember it without having to go look it up? I posted it just FOR YOU ...just one page back. And you miss it? Don't you bother reading even one page before commenting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5457 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If someone will agree that the generally accepted aged of puma punku was 500 ad...please say so and then I will amaze the AA theorists, and blow their theories out of the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 21, 2013 #5458 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If someone will agree that the generally accepted aged of puma punku was 500 ad...please say so and then I will amaze the AA theorists, and blow their theories out of the water This is on WIki, with supporting links. Age Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell,[2] a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich[3] from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku. This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku at 1510 ±25 B.P. C14 (AD 440; calibrated, AD 536–600). Since the radiocarbon date came from the lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill underlying the andesite and sandstone stonework, the stonework must have been constructed sometime after 1510 ±25 B.P. C14. The excavation trenches of Vranich show that the clay, sand, and gravel fill of the Pumapunku complex lie directly on the sterile middle Pleistocene sediments. These excavation trenches also demonstrated the lack of any pre-Andean Middle Horizon cultural deposits within the area of the Tiwanaku Site adjacent to the Pumapunku complex.[3] LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 21, 2013 #5459 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Think "Prime Directive" non-interference policy! And what a successful policy THAT was. Picard ended up as a God, Data a daemon from hell, other captains turned worlds into a Nazi utopia, Chicago in the 30s, Kirk stole some whales (and possible lead to the extinction of whales in the first place) .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5460 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) This is on WIki, with supporting links. Ok thanks. You see out of curiosity I decided to look up what had been invented in 500 ad. I found a page that lists inventions between Years : 1 AD to 1,000 AD. Then I simply looked at all things before and up to...500 ad, you see I really wanted to know what was going in the world at those time, take a look at the lists http://www.krysstal.... AD to 1,000 AD I was most surprised, unless I have some sort of mental; block on understanding what AD really is? . Edited January 21, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 21, 2013 #5461 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Ok thanks. You see out of curiosity I decided to look up what had been invented in 500 ad. I found a page that lists inventions between Years : 1 AD to 1,000 AD. Then I simply looked at all things before and up to...500 ad, you see I really wanted to know what was going in the world at those time, take a look at the lists http://www.krysstal.... AD to 1,000 AD I was most surprised, unless I have some sort of mental; block on understanding what AD really is? . This one is impressive for it's time as well. LINK - Hierapolis Sawmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5462 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) This one is impressive for it's time as well. LINK - Hierapolis Sawmill It certainly is... and the first hot air balloon was invented in 200 ad if you see a large black box on the following page and no dates... just mouse over the blackbox and it will vanish http://www.xtimeline...00AD-Inventions so while the rest of the world was playing chess by 500 ad... all the aliens taught Peruvians was how to stack rocks..!! Edited January 21, 2013 by seeder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 21, 2013 #5463 Share Posted January 21, 2013 so 500AD. if the Roman Empire never vell, or invaded Greece could it e possible that they also would e using perfectly worked rocks without concrete etc? Yes, it iis possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherSide1945 Posted January 21, 2013 #5464 Share Posted January 21, 2013 LOL, no do you understand culture at all? Do you feel if we had a visit from an Interdimensional being, that it would need to keep it's mouth closed, or the rain would never stop falling? Or do they light a fire in space, wich is the real explanation for the sun? Or what about that giant snake I mentioned? The Rainbow Serpent Just another friendly inter-dimensional being that visits planets to carve them river systems? Have you ever read how the Australian Indigenous explain why crows are black? Do you know what the Dreamtime is? No vandalism, Call a spade a spade, Real damage is being done, that is vandalism. what you are doing is trolling, and I will explain how further down. What about them? They have common theme icons in them too. Whilst my understanding of medieval and ancient art is minimal, your's seems to be nonexistent. How much time have you spent trying to understand real art? How many artists have you read about? None hey, but I bet you have many woo woo sites under you belt, saving you such work, and telling you what you want to hear. And here I wiIl get back to the above-mentioned comment. This is "your effort" is it? To annoy those who have a think about this nonsense, instead of swallowing it blindly? That is what you are proud of is it? Making sure no actual fact gets out, but the crackpot theories get center stage? This is what makes you tick is it? You want to see that any descriptions of actual historical record are buried, and that fringe crackpot theories that have only risen in the last 75 years get precedence? You want to make sure nobody gets a fair crack at history you want to be able to guide that history do you? And you are proud of yourself for this?? Really? I most certainly would not only be ashamed to publicly say I only want ET in so I can annoy skeptics, I would be embarrassed at all those who do study these record, historian and the like, not to mention those not even born that never get a crack at the actual record, but the modern interpretation used to sell nonsense. Seriously, if that is what makes you tick, I would have a really, good long and hard look in the mirror. I am upset at the actual loss of real history, and this is what makes you smile? That's a bit sick I reckon. lol your blood pressure spike while writing this? uhhh so the paintings aren't pictures of their "gods?" what i have read Dreamtime could be talking about different dimensions. how the hell do any of us know what interdemnsional beings can do? yes there is common trends with the whole sun and moon in the paintings. however, there is at least one that has no trends to it: how do you answer the 1561 Nuremburg story and paintings? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Himmelserscheinung_%C3%BCber_N%C3%BCrnberg_vom_14._April_1561.jpg let me guess the whole city did mushrooms that day. what about vimanas? the Hindu's tell you straight up there is flying machines flown by gods. how about the Annunaki? lets hear you explain away those stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 21, 2013 #5465 Share Posted January 21, 2013 lol your blood pressure spike while writing this? uhhh so the paintings aren't pictures of their "gods?" what i have read Dreamtime could be talking about different dimensions. how the hell do any of us know what interdemnsional beings can do? yes there is common trends with the whole sun and moon in the paintings. however, there is at least one that has no trends to it: how do you answer the 1561 Nuremburg story and paintings? http://en.wikipedia...._April_1561.jpg let me guess the whole city did mushrooms that day. what about vimanas? the Hindu's tell you straight up there is flying machines flown by gods. how about the Annunaki? lets hear you explain away those stories. Have you ever heard of the idea of metaphor, allegory or symbolism? That references to, for example, flying machines flown by gods, might not actually be literal, but might be, say metaphor, allegory or symbolism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherSide1945 Posted January 21, 2013 #5466 Share Posted January 21, 2013 have a look at first few minutes of this vid..to see your ancient alien figures...in a different light [media=] [/media]if you like it and watch it all, (something I know is excruciating for pro AA believers to do), then you'll find part one to watch too. he doesnt really say anything that disproves that its not a space suit. he says this is this... then says it was duplicated and kevin bacon owns a copy. the part where he is disproving the maya art with a clown picture is retarded. the part with the maps i agree. the ancient monolithic construction i agree that it could be manmade. the stories of gods coming from heaven, ancient carvings/paintings of "gods," i still will stick to the alien theory. they could be aliens from different dimensions whatever, they aren't from this world, therefore alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherSide1945 Posted January 21, 2013 #5467 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Have you ever heard of the idea of metaphor, allegory or symbolism? That references to, for example, flying machines flown by gods, might not actually be literal, but might be, say metaphor, allegory or symbolism? ok but thats just another theory. they might be literal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5468 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) lol your blood pressure spike while writing this? uhhh so the paintings aren't pictures of their "gods?" what i have read Dreamtime could be talking about different dimensions. how the hell do any of us know what interdemnsional beings can do? yes there is common trends with the whole sun and moon in the paintings. however, there is at least one that has no trends to it: how do you answer the 1561 Nuremburg story and paintings? http://en.wikipedia...._April_1561.jpg let me guess the whole city did mushrooms that day. what about vimanas? the Hindu's tell you straight up there is flying machines flown by gods. how about the Annunaki? lets hear you explain away those stories. have a read of this, I presume you read things thru to the end? http://www.abovetops...hread907719/pg1 quote: "if you are trying to figure out what is going on with these early 16th century woodcuts or "broadsheets," the best thing to do is to see a lot of more them" . Edited January 21, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5469 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) he doesnt really say anything that disproves that its not a space suit. he says this is this... then says it was duplicated and kevin bacon owns a copy. the part where he is disproving the maya art with a clown picture is retarded. the part with the maps i agree. the ancient monolithic construction i agree that it could be manmade. the stories of gods coming from heaven, ancient carvings/paintings of "gods," i still will stick to the alien theory. they could be aliens from different dimensions whatever, they aren't from this world, therefore alien. It seems you have a long path ahead... oh and watch part one of the vid too.. Edited January 21, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 21, 2013 #5470 Share Posted January 21, 2013 as intereting as the baattle of Neuremburg is, we have no primary evidence as to what happened, just a lot of secon hand reports. and there are scond hand reports of men in black cloacks sprayig the plague into towns, second han reports of sidhe, bigfoot and Elvis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 21, 2013 #5471 Share Posted January 21, 2013 what about vimanas? the Hindu's tell you straight up there is flying machines flown by gods. what about them? the dumbass guide has this to say http://www.dumbassguide.info/blog.php?bid=44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherSide1945 Posted January 21, 2013 #5472 Share Posted January 21, 2013 what about them? the dumbass guide has this to say http://www.dumbassgu...blog.php?bid=44 if you are trying to call me a dumbass just say it lol. i can take it. anways, Ramayana, Vedas, etc are all talking about characters not of this planet/plain of existence. so i really dont see how they are not aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 21, 2013 #5473 Share Posted January 21, 2013 he doesnt really say anything that disproves that its not a space suit. he says this is this... then says it was duplicated and kevin bacon owns a copy. the part where he is disproving the maya art with a clown picture is retarded. the part with the maps i agree. the ancient monolithic construction i agree that it could be manmade. the stories of gods coming from heaven, ancient carvings/paintings of "gods," i still will stick to the alien theory. they could be aliens from different dimensions whatever, they aren't from this world, therefore alien. In a few hundred years there will be people claiming that we interacted with a little square sponge that could talk. SpongeBob Squarepants was real I tell ya! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherSide1945 Posted January 21, 2013 #5474 Share Posted January 21, 2013 as intereting as the baattle of Neuremburg is, we have no primary evidence as to what happened, just a lot of secon hand reports. and there are scond hand reports of men in black cloacks sprayig the plague into towns, second han reports of sidhe, bigfoot and Elvis. i have no evidence that i have seen ufos. i dont care if you dont believe me but i know i have. if i hadnt i probably would be saying the same close minded things. now i dont know if they were alien craft or not but how the hell do you hide something that is at least 2 miles across. In a few hundred years there will be people claiming that we interacted with a little square sponge that could talk. SpongeBob Squarepants was real I tell ya! sure. how could they say there wasnt a real spongebob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 21, 2013 #5475 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ok but thats just another theory. they might be literal too. I'm beginning to think that your primary intent might not just be to wind people up. If you do wish to be taken seriously, I think you're going to have to argue with a bit more thought than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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