zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8351 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Still waiting for how ancients drilled perfect holes and why vitrification is present inside that particular hole. Still waiting for answers to moulding marks (trowel smoothing, pock mark indentations, fused blocks, smudge marks, and precision joins). The vitrification is as yet unexplained. So are the saw cuts btw. The last remnants of Army Group Centre have been defeated in Belarus. The final march to Berlin begins. Guess who Zhukov is? Hint: His name begins with the same letter. Edited March 9, 2013 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 9, 2013 #8352 Share Posted March 9, 2013 You see ? I said "how I would" I didn't say "how they would" or even "how the AA did" If you want an ultimate answer ...... you can make one up yourself ~edit : clarity in red No wonder this name reads familiar > Roger Hopkins (expert stone mason) sculptor to me, same ? Mr Hopkins knows a thing or two don't he ? You drill the same way except make smaller holes ~edit : pic OH no now youve done it. Hopkins is also inclined to say he doesn't know how it was done. But in some vids he will imply it was aliens. But on his homepage he dismisses the notions of aliens altogether. His problem is, he will say pretty much anything most of the time.... Like all the rest of them do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8353 Share Posted March 9, 2013 youre so desperate to strike up a convo aren't you? baiting TE to discuss holes again. Impossible holes! Like this one in an axe head from 5000 years ago. Thats before PP you know.(according to source) Just discovered cant post the images, scroll for axeheads http://antimonite.bl...ory/mineralogy/ Nice collection of stone`age remnants there seeder. Shame it has nothing to do with the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 9, 2013 #8354 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Still waiting for how ancients drilled perfect holes My goodness you are desperate aren't you? , well be a good chap and continue waiting. While youre waiting of course, jump back to about page 150- plus and re-read the original discussion on holes. Silently and to yourself that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8355 Share Posted March 9, 2013 But on his homepage he dismisses the notions of aliens altogether. That depends no doubt on what images he is being presented with. His utter amazement was expressed specifically when shown pictures of Puma Punku. He did say that modern tech could not replicate that. According to you chaps a tribe of illiterate indians can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8356 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My goodness you are desperate aren't you? , well be a good chap and continue waiting. While youre waiting of course, jump back to about page 150- plus and re-read the original discussion on holes. Silently and to yourself that is Don't for God sake give me Stock's rubbish. The hole was far too small and the copper usage was 50% greater than the hole depth. That's a none starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 9, 2013 #8357 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) [media=] [/media]Pointless eh? Bit like talking to zoser about holes... Edited March 9, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 9, 2013 #8358 Share Posted March 9, 2013 ~snip~ The vitrification is as yet unexplained. ~snip~ there is no vitrification, just signs comparable to vitrification Hint: molten metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 9, 2013 #8359 Share Posted March 9, 2013 ~snip He did say that modern tech could not replicate that. He is right According to you chaps a tribe of illiterate indians can do it. We are right too Literacy has nothing to do with the stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8360 Share Posted March 9, 2013 [media=] [/media]Pointless eh? Bit like talking to zoser about holes... Now I know your running out of ideas. Zhukov's forces are closing in.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8361 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) He is right We are right too Literacy has nothing to do with the stones The Aymara are now capable of more precise stonework than modern machine tools eh? Interesting. No planning, blue prints............even though many of the blocks at PP are replicas......... I suppose they just guessed did they? Edited March 9, 2013 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8362 Share Posted March 9, 2013 there is no vitrification, just signs comparable to vitrification Hint: molten metal Molten metal cuts andesite does it? Really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 9, 2013 #8363 Share Posted March 9, 2013 No planning, blue prints............even though many of the blocks at PP are replicas......... I suppose they just guessed did they? they fitted the stones side by side next to each other, they can't help but to be clones or replicates not manufactured at site then transported .... transported to site then manufactured in situ different and no guessing involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 9, 2013 #8364 Share Posted March 9, 2013 save your time peeps, just re-read what he wants to discuss all over again..... from here http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=237842&st=2520 Me running out of ideas indeed. You want to bring back an already hammered out and debunked discussion about... holes.... which we discussed for god knows how many pages already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 9, 2013 #8365 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Molten metal cuts andesite does it? Really you're just having a urinating frency the cut has nothing to do with the molten metal the hot metal came after the cut ........ and that's all you're gonna or be able to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8366 Share Posted March 9, 2013 While your at it maybe you could explain this: Maybe the above images explain this, seen all over the Cuzco stonework: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8367 Share Posted March 9, 2013 they fitted the stones side by side next to each other, they can't help but to be clones or replicates not manufactured at site then transported .... transported to site then manufactured in situ different and no guessing involved Well TE I can see why you have kept out of this debate with rubbish like that. Precise engineered stonework; guessed at? Constructed by Indians. Yes the Aymara were indians. Any sign of such feats in North America? Ever wondered why not? Think it through. Take your time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 9, 2013 #8368 Share Posted March 9, 2013 go back a few pages and get that chart i made on how to get edges to line, then use brain .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8369 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Berlin is surrounded by Russians from the East, the North and the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 9, 2013 #8370 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) While your at it maybe you could explain this: Maybe the above images explain this, seen all over the Cuzco stonework: No its not its a few places only and I HAVE posted this info before, about building rocks being covered in clay "Another building method was called “pillow-faced” architecture. Pillow faced building was achieved by using fired adobe bricks and mud mortar. The Incas would then sand large, finely shaped stones coated in mud and clay. Then they would fit the bricks and stones together using the mud mortar into jigsaw like patterns. Pillow-faced architecture was typically used for temples and royal places like Machu Picchu http://en.wikipedia....ruction_methods I even said at the time it solves a lot of your issues on soft rocks with mold marks. And clay made with sand will, after enough time, resemble SANDSTONE. But hey dont believe the link. Its only FACTS . Edited March 9, 2013 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8371 Share Posted March 9, 2013 go back a few pages and get that chart i made on how to get edges to line, then use brain .... Then how is the Andesite cut? How are these internal relief's achieved? Saws don't fit inside reliefs do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8372 Share Posted March 9, 2013 No its not its a few places only and I HAVE posted this info before, about building rocks being covered in clay "Another building method was called “pillow-faced” architecture. Pillow faced building was achieved by using fired adobe bricks and mud mortar. The Incas would then sand large, finely shaped stones coated in mud and clay. Then they would fit the bricks and stones together using the mud mortar into jigsaw like patterns. Pillow-faced architecture was typically used for temples and royal places like Machu Picchu http://en.wikipedia....ruction_methods I even said at the time it solves a lot of your issues on soft rocks with mold marks. And clay made with sand will, after enough time, resemble SANDSTONE But hey dont believe the link. Its only FACTS I checked your link seeder. Nothing relevant to the stonework anomalies. Sorry to be a pest; I'm just challenging your assertions. Or what you think are assertions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 9, 2013 #8373 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Then how is the Andesite cut? How are these internal relief's achieved? Saws don't fit inside reliefs do they? the edges are the only problem here, the craftsmanship is excellent, the rest is just grind/sand in, like drilling a square hole It just takes longer than a regular round hole on account of the grinding motion is easier the edge is difficult but not impossible, just takes a much longer time because you have to go slow, chipping the sharp lined side edges is the prime danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted March 9, 2013 #8374 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As the armoured columns close in on the capital there is this: How were these cuts achieved? Whole blocks removed from bedrock? How? Why is the remaining rock smooth and vitrified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted March 9, 2013 #8375 Share Posted March 9, 2013 GROUND HOG DAY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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