bmk1245 Posted December 26, 2012 #3076 Share Posted December 26, 2012 LOL [...] Meaning you lost your argument!? Agree... [...] I believe you are referring to the vitrification. [...] Nope, I was refering to "precision". What is 'right angle'? You should know 'boubt it. [...] Ignorance really is bliss. [...] You hit the point. Ignorance of AAers is mindstumbling. [...] PS show me 'pounding' marks on the last Puma Pumku image if you would. [...] I said pounding and grinding. Do I have to explain what grinding is? [...] PSS If you are going to deride the work of investigators [...] Investigators?!!! You call half witted lunatics "investigators"? They are on the same page and paragraph with 2012 scare mongers (which failed, failed by huge). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted December 26, 2012 #3077 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Who needs numbers?!!! Oh boy... Image you posted show hard work by pounding and grinding the rock, nothing more. BTW do you see pounding marks on the surface? Did "alienz" made machinery which would use rocks to pound larger rocks? So much for advancement... When D.H.Childress came up with the "perfect right angles" my first thought was "He is blind", then other more plausible explanations came up "He does not know what 'right angle' stands for" and "He is mentally challenged". Latter is most likely. I was gonna bring this up... you beat me to it. well spotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted December 26, 2012 #3078 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I was gonna bring this up... you beat me to it.[...] Sorry 'bout that.Thats the point, what is the meaning of "precision"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 26, 2012 #3079 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Who needs numbers?!!! Oh boy... Image you posted show hard work by pounding and grinding the rock, nothing more. BTW do you see pounding marks on the surface? Did "alienz" made machinery which would use rocks to pound larger rocks? So much for advancement... When D.H.Childress came up with the "perfect right angles" my first thought was "He is blind", then other more plausible explanations came up "He does not know what 'right angle' stands for" and "He is mentally challenged". Latter is most likely. Here's the expert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted December 26, 2012 #3080 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Here's the expert. I just luv that icon :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3081 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) No references, no evidence, no reasons, no proof. Just like the archaeologists really. Just a lot of smiley faces. The only valid intelligent question was regarding the word precision. Here is a wall known to be built by the Inca. http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/photo/inca-wall-with-numbers-royalty-free-image/152366710 Here is a wall constructed by unknown builders. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inca_wall_2_-_Coricancha_Peru.jpg That hopefully answers the question nicely. Edited December 26, 2012 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronomy Posted December 26, 2012 #3082 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I have no intention of returning to the stone enigmas just yet but I was searching for more on the Paracas people when I came across this. What could be the purpose of these strange cutouts? Were they practising with their technology? Amazing workmanship. [media=] [/media] I get the impression that these square cutouts and carvings on this rock formation are where the ancients were quarrying the stones. Perhaps the stairs were used for access, or perhaps the whole thing was built up with wood structures for habitation and now that they are gone what's left is foundation. The cutout that he describes as big as six refrigerators...maybe it was for food storage and had a large wooden door on it to keep animals out! It seems in all these videos, including the AA stuff, the dialogue or narration doesn't match with what is being shown. They keep saying "precision technology" and "precise right angles" then the video shows non right angles. Although I have a very open mind on this subject, I'm just not seeing anything that I would conclude is "advanced technology". Why is it that ancient aliens proponents get excited about carving and moving rocks? To me, all this, including building the Great Pyramid, could be accomplished with what ancient man had plenty of: time and manpower. Now if you want to see ancient technology which took pure genious to invent and perfect, lets look at three ancient developments that had a more profound impact on mankind than the invention of the wheel, the telephone, the automobile or anything else in the history of recorded civilization. Making Fire Stone Arrowhead and Spear Bow and Arrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3083 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) I get the impression that these square cutouts and carvings on this rock formation are where the ancients were quarrying the stones. Perhaps the stairs were used for access, or perhaps the whole thing was built up with wood structures for habitation and now that they are gone what's left is foundation. The cutout that he describes as big as six refrigerators...maybe it was for food storage and had a large wooden door on it to keep animals out! It seems in all these videos, including the AA stuff, the dialogue or narration doesn't match with what is being shown. They keep saying "precision technology" and "precise right angles" then the video shows non right angles. Although I have a very open mind on this subject, I'm just not seeing anything that I would conclude is "advanced technology". Take a look at the above pictures. Precision is not subjective. It's real. Why is it that ancient aliens proponents get excited about carving and moving rocks? To me, all this, including building the Great Pyramid, could be accomplished with what ancient man had plenty of: time and manpower. Then say how and convince everyone. To date no one has been able to do that. Now if you want to see ancient technology which took pure genious to invent and perfect, lets look at three ancient developments that had a more profound impact on mankind than the invention of the wheel, the telephone, the automobile or anything else in the history of recorded civilization. Making Fire Stone Arrowhead and Spear Bow and Arrow The thread here is to do with the unexplained. Clearly some ancient cultures were able to do a lot more than light fires. Extremely amazing artefacts were produced that modern understanding fails to explain. It may see extremely uncomfortable but then the truth for some is. Just look above for evidence of how it unsettling it is for some. Edited December 26, 2012 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted December 26, 2012 #3084 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Of course. As long as you are enjoying the thread. as i mentioned earlier, it's my 'coronation street' lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronomy Posted December 26, 2012 #3085 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The thread here is to do with the unexplained. Clearly some ancient cultures were able to do a lot more than light fires. Extremely amazing artefacts were produced that modern understanding fails to explain. It may see extremely uncomfortable but then the truth for some is. Just look above for evidence of how it unsettling it is for some. Why is their archeology an indication of ancient aliens, but yet great ingenuity was required for fire, spears and bows...and they are simply taken for granted? If ancient man was not smart enough to carve and move big stones, how then did they think of bows and arrows. To me, that's like inventing the automobile before the wheel was invented. That is, even moving from a spear to the bow and arrow, is a staggering leap of technology. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3086 Share Posted December 26, 2012 as i mentioned earlier, it's my 'coronation street' lol Interesting that you watch soaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3087 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Why is their archeology an indication of ancient aliens, but yet great ingenuity was required for fire, spears and bows...and they are simply taken for granted? If ancient man was not smart enough to carve and move big stones, how then did they think of bows and arrows. To me, that's like inventing the automobile before the wheel was invented. That is, even moving from a spear to the bow and arrow, is a staggering leap of technology. No one argues about fire, bows and arrows. The argument is about precision architecture and who or what created it. I don't think anyone is failing to recognise the value of important evolutionary steps. It's this 'evolutionary step' that needs explaining: Edited December 26, 2012 by zoser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 26, 2012 #3088 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Take a look at the above pictures. Precision is not subjective. It's real. It looks like your aliens were not precise at all. A right angle would be a very easy cut for such an advanced race. Why do you feel that they measured wrong? Then say how and convince everyone. To date no one has been able to do that. Yes they have. You have just not watched the correct youtube videos. The thread here is to do with the unexplained. Clearly some ancient cultures were able to do a lot more than light fires. Extremely amazing artefacts were produced that modern understanding fails to explain. Untrue, once again. It may see extremely uncomfortable but then the truth for some is. I suspect you may work for Ancient Aliens because you talk as though your jibberish has been confirmed as truth. Just look above for evidence of how it unsettling it is for some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3089 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I said pounding and grinding. Do I have to explain what grinding is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronomy Posted December 26, 2012 #3090 Share Posted December 26, 2012 No one argues about fire, bows and arrows. The argument is about precision architecture and who or what created it. I don't think anyone is failing to recognise the value of important evolutionary steps. But my question is why? Why is the architecture so baffling when all it required was time and brute force...but the bow and arrow required unprecedented ingenuity. I think it more likely ancient aliens showed them fire, the spear, and the bow and arrow, than I am to believe carving and moving large stones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted December 26, 2012 #3091 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Interesting that you watch soaps. actually i never have. i just think coronation street is a good example of people being obsessed with mundane topics that aren't the least bit compelling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3092 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I get the impression that these square cutouts and carvings on this rock formation are where the ancients were quarrying the stones. Perhaps the stairs were used for Remotely possible. Looking at the scale of the artefacts compared to the scale of the removal in this site I wouldn't have thought the volumes match. With a bit of research the location of the quarrying could easily be established I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronomy Posted December 26, 2012 #3093 Share Posted December 26, 2012 It's this 'evolutionary step' that needs explaining: And why do you call this an evolutionary step, when it's just skull binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3094 Share Posted December 26, 2012 But my question is why? Why is the architecture so baffling when all it required was time and brute force... Right there is the basis of the dispute. Brute force doesn't place multi-tonne blocks so tightly that a piece of paper will not fit between the cracks. It never did and it never will. Special methods are needed. The stones show evidence of vitrification. How did it get there? Plus the evidence suggests that it all occurred before the Inca. The further back this goes the more problems it creates for the mainstream explanations. but the bow and arrow required unprecedented ingenuity. Yes but Ray Mears can do this too. He can't build a precision wall from multi-tonne Andesite blocks. I think it more likely ancient aliens showed them fire, the spear, and the bow and arrow, than I am to believe carving and moving large stones. Who says the AA's were showing anyone? Who says it was a teaching exercise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3095 Share Posted December 26, 2012 And why do you call this an evolutionary step, when it's just skull binding. See 'Summary So Far' http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=237842&st=2970&p=4594500entry4594500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3096 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) actually i never have. i just think coronation street is a good example of people being obsessed with mundane topics that aren't the least bit compelling. Maybe there is a CS episode on later for you. No need to be here when there is more exciting things to do? Edited December 26, 2012 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted December 26, 2012 #3097 Share Posted December 26, 2012 actually i never have. i just think coronation street is a good example of people being obsessed with mundane topics that aren't the least bit compelling. gotta love JGirl - saying how it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3098 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) gotta love JGirl - saying how it is Interesting why people would invest so much time in something they find so dull. One wonders what else they do. Or not do. Edited December 26, 2012 by zoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGirl Posted December 26, 2012 #3099 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Maybe there is a CS episode on later for you. No need to be here when there is more exciting things to do? oh i disagree! this is far more fun because i get to participate! (i have never actually watched coronation street either lol) Interesting why people would invest so much time in something they find so dull. One wonders what else they do. Or not do. don't misunderstand zoser. if i found this thread dull i wouldn't be here. don't let it bug you so much. edit to add, what makes you think you are the star attraction in this thread in any case? did it not occur to you that i find the information that others are posting worth being here for? you can invite me to leave all you like. it's not like i care Edited December 26, 2012 by JGirl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoser Posted December 26, 2012 #3100 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Abe take a look at this: Foerster is at Ollantaytambo presumably with an engineering specialist. They discuss how a fine cut was made in this stone block: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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