questionmark Posted December 5, 2012 #1 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Adding to its numerous woes, Greece has plunged in this year's corruption rankings, issued annually by Transparency International. The country is now ranked as the EU's worst in the battle against graft. Perennial bottom feeders Bulgaria and Romania, by contrast, have shown improvement. The bottom and top of the list are hardly surprising. Once again, Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index found that Somalia, North Korea and Afghanistan are the most corrupt countries in the world, with New Zealand, Denmark and Finland to be found on the opposite end of the spectrum. In between, however, there has been plenty of movement. And countries in the European Union, particularly some within the euro zone, have not exactly improved when it comes to combating corruption. Greece, in particular, slid several spots in this year's ranking from the already weak position it occupied in 2011, plunging from 80th on the list in 2011 to 94th this year. "Underperformers in the Corruption Perceptions Index 2012 … include the euro-zone countries most affected by the financial and economic crisis," the NGO points out in a statement on its website accompanying the report's Wednesday release. "Transparency International has consistently warned Europe to address corruption risks in the public sector to tackle the financial crisis." Read more Not surprising, as is that the "Damn Socialists" (New Zealand, Denmark and Finland) are ahead again! Edit. And the map: Edited December 5, 2012 by questionmark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted December 5, 2012 #2 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What a surprising and unexpected turn of events... -monotone- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella-Angelique Posted December 5, 2012 #3 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The date set to start forming the United Nations of Europe from the Telegraph is interesting though. It states that with the power of full banking union and authority over every member, it will start to take place through a series of treaties after 2014. (I told you so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted December 5, 2012 Author #4 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The date set to start forming the United Nations of Europe from the Telegraph is interesting though. It states that with the power of full banking union and authority over every member, it will start to take place through a series of treaties after 2014. (I told you so) I am amazed of your capability of predicting lately what European politicians have been planning since 1956. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousGreek Posted December 5, 2012 #5 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Corruption has brought Greece in its current state :angry: Edited December 5, 2012 by CuriousGreek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousGreek Posted December 5, 2012 #6 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What a surprising and unexpected turn of events... -monotone- I have to admit, that in all bad things Greece is on top...and that's sad, because it overshadows the good Greeks... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2012 #7 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have to admit, that in all bad things Greece is on top...and that's sad, because it overshadows the good Greeks... Take heart in the fact that Ireland is similarly rated to be corrupt so your not alone. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_dreamer Posted December 6, 2012 #8 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Take heart in the fact that Ireland is similarly rated to be corrupt so your not alone. Br Cornelius This was probably the biggest surprise to me. I had not heard about this yet in Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Buzzkill Posted December 6, 2012 #9 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Glad to see NZ at the opposite end of the scale and i notice it in my business dealings overseas as well. Even dealing with some Australian QS's, they will ask for certain amounts of money to be transfered into their accounts if they award you the contract, which we always decline. Why would anyone want to do business with someone who is so obviously corrupt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Right Wing Posted December 6, 2012 #10 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Not surprising, as is that the "Damn Socialists" (New Zealand, Denmark and Finland) are ahead again! I didnt realise there were countries below Greece lol As for socialists have a look at the nations before making wild claims. They are resource rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted December 6, 2012 Author #11 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) I didnt realise there were countries below Greece lol As for socialists have a look at the nations before making wild claims. They are resource rich. So are most African countries, what is their excuse? Edit, and Denmark #1 in the Ranking, has absolutely no mentionable resources. Edited December 6, 2012 by questionmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousGreek Posted December 6, 2012 #12 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Take heart in the fact that Ireland is similarly rated to be corrupt so your not alone. Br Cornelius Really? Well, maybe that's one of the reasons, that led these 2 countries (Ireland and Greece) to this situation.Someday this problem would be popped out and unfortunately it popped out with the worst way possible (referring to the financial crisis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2012 #13 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Really? Well, maybe that's one of the reasons, that led these 2 countries (Ireland and Greece) to this situation.Someday this problem would be popped out and unfortunately it popped out with the worst way possible (referring to the financial crisis) Corrupt property deals and back handers to politicians and planners was the main cause of the financial crisis in Ireland. Unfortunately the Irish have a very unhealthy disrespect for the law and always believe that this will work to their ultimate advantage - they were wrong. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 6, 2012 #14 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Not surprising, as is that the "Damn Socialists" (New Zealand, Denmark and Finland) are ahead again! Presumably you are implying some sort of link!! i.e socialists are in some way morally superior. Give me a while & i'll find a dozen or so stories about corrupt labour councils & councillors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 6, 2012 #15 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Labour Councillor Matt Fry Suspended as Fraud Investigation Begins link :- http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Labour-councillor-Matt-Fry-suspended-fraud/story-16963072-detail/story.html Labour Minister - Expense Fraud :- http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mp-with-two-homes-minutes-from-commons-claims-37000-expenses-6881322.html#StartComments John Holden: Still got a years salary after Fraud conviction :- http://www.highland-news.co.uk/News/Disgraced-Inverness-councillor-was-paid-council-salary-after-fraud-conviction-02072012.htm David Gawn: Theft :- http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2012/05/15/councillor-accused-of-attempted-theft-will-face-judge-in-june-116451-30974791/ Margaret Moran: Expenses Fraud :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-17866333 Hassan Ahmed: Conflicting Interests :- http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Conflict-concerns-Nottingham-jobs-fund-contracts/story-15291664-detail/story.html John Holden: Benefit fraud :- http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/labour-councillor-is-jailed-for-a-year-over-1080467 Milan Radulovic: Benefit Fraud :- http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Broxtowe-council-leader-accused-fraud-stepping/story-15156283-detail/story.html Shelina Akhtar: Benefit Fraud :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16914477 Labour Councillor Benefit Fraud :- http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100128484/lutfur-rahman-councillor-convicted-of-second-benefit-fraud/ Simon Crew Benefit Fraud :- http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-councillor-fined-benefit-claims/story-11299755-detail/story.html Labour Councillor - Drugs and Money Laundering :- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7309305/Ex-councillor-guilty-of-laundering-drugs-cash.html Labour Council Leader - Theft :- http://www.birminghampost.net/news/west-midlands-news/2009/10/23/sandwell-council-leader-bill-thomas-quits-after-being-charged-with-theft-65233-25001085/ And that's just a few, & everyone a dyed in the wool socialist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2012 #16 Share Posted December 6, 2012 There is a frequent claim made by Right Wing thinkers that any form of social democratic model cannot function as well as a free market neoliberal model. That is blatantly a false assumption when you look at countries like Germany, New Zealand, Norway and Finland. I think that was the point been made here. Br Cornelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 7, 2012 #17 Share Posted December 7, 2012 One of the most pervasive political visions of our time is the vision of liberals as compassionate and conservatives as less caring. --Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor T Posted December 7, 2012 #18 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Cool.. I like it when New Zealand comes out on top in a good way.. But I tend to think we're pretty corrupt as well.. the SFO (Serious fraud Office) has been busy of late.. We have a fair share of top-end business corruption, but little if any outside of the boardrooms.. Edited December 7, 2012 by Professor T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted December 8, 2012 #19 Share Posted December 8, 2012 It's not surprising New Zealand's at the top. All their crooks are in Australia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor T Posted December 8, 2012 #20 Share Posted December 8, 2012 It's not surprising New Zealand's at the top. All their crooks are in Australia. LOL! When we export our citizens across the ditch we raise the collective IQ of both countries..!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted December 8, 2012 #21 Share Posted December 8, 2012 LOL! When we export our citizens across the ditch we raise the collective IQ of both countries..!! You must have a lot of intelligent sheep there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor T Posted December 8, 2012 #22 Share Posted December 8, 2012 You must have a lot of intelligent sheep there. I'd love to continue this, only we're gone a bit off topic.. Besides which, I've been asked to help polish world champs trophy cabinet.. That'll take forever.... sigh... Sorry OP.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousGreek Posted December 8, 2012 #23 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Corrupt property deals and back handers to politicians and planners was the main cause of the financial crisis in Ireland. Unfortunately the Irish have a very unhealthy disrespect for the law and always believe that this will work to their ultimate advantage - they were wrong. Br Cornelius To tell you the truth, as i am always being honest, this is what's happening in Greece too. As i was always saying, the financial crisis is a result of humanity crisis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousGreek Posted December 8, 2012 #24 Share Posted December 8, 2012 To tell you the truth, as i am always being honest, this is what's happening in Greece too. As i was always saying, the financial crisis is a result of humanity's crisis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted March 17, 2013 #25 Share Posted March 17, 2013 To tell you the truth, as i am always being honest, this is what's happening in Greece too. As i was always saying, the financial crisis is a result of humanity crisis... How much has Greece spent since the Olympics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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