Fluffybunny Posted October 8, 2004 #51 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Well, I guess they've done a less than exemplary job or it wouldn't have happened? If they've been dealing with it for so long, and they're so smart and capable. 296787[/snapback] Oy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted October 8, 2004 #52 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Fluffy, in just two letters, you sum up my every thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted October 8, 2004 #53 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Leave it to Americans to shove a stick in an ants nest and make all the ants run around biting people. 9/11 wasn't the first, idotic liberals here seem to think it though. I've already gone down to 1979 as far as US interests in terrorism. Europe has been dealing with terrorists for decades before the US even had the vaguest idea what was going on in the middle east What on earth is with you people and this sad, self obsessed delusion that 9/11 was the first taste the western world had of terrorism? 9/11 wasn't the first, idotic liberals here seem to think it though. I've already gone down to 1979 as far as US interests in terrorism. I'm sure smarter people have gone farther with it. sad, self obsessed delusion huh? Hey, don't blame us you got advance warnings about the guys who were on their way to hijack those planes....not our fault secret service did jack all, and your President decided to take the month off Nice revision of history. Clinton left us with a gutted intelligence agency, and my not so widely accepted opinion is Bush knew about it and let it happen to wake us up because from 1979 it's been largely ignored, the world wasn't stopping it, and it was headed our way. Believe me, I really wish you HADN'T gotten involved And Saddam was in power and France and Germany/Russia/China were calling the shots with Pakistan et al in the security council and... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted October 8, 2004 #54 Share Posted October 8, 2004 (edited) And Saddam was in power and France and Germany/Russia/China were calling the shots with Pakistan et al in the security council and... Oh, there's no doubt I'm not particuarly happy about how Iraq stood before the coalition went in....however, I also don't think that the war was conducted in the correct manner....hell, most of the decisions made were utterly insane Iraq has gone from a place that wasn't in any way a threat to us (despite what we were told), to being a place where we're hearing daily about terrorist activity...we were lied to and told Saddam had links to 9/11...we lied to and told he could supply nuclear weapons to terrorists....and now that he's gone, Iraq has lost whatever semblance of order it had, and NOW it really is a hotbed of terrorists, where they seem free to do and plan anything they like. and my not so widely accepted opinion is Bush knew about it and let it happen to wake us up because from 1979 it's been largely ignored As much as I might credit the intelligence services with this particular tactic, given all the warnings they had about the people in question, and the fact that the President utterly ignored it, this is a plan far too devious for an idiot on the scale of Bush Edited October 8, 2004 by Seraphina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 8, 2004 #55 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Wow, talk about opening a hornet's nest...and I thought the wicked witch was dead. Seraphina, you and your liberal 'european' hype! That's all it is. Nobody cares about the friggin' parade, except maybe Fluffy . What we care about are the politics behind it. I really wonder what Spain will do about terrorism. And, golly gee, I wonder what France will do, now? I would hope that these countries that continue to be hit will take up arms and join us. ....But I gotta say...who knows? It would sure be nice to have these countries give us a little help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted October 8, 2004 #56 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Nobody cares about the friggin' parade, except maybe Fluffy . Oh sure, blast a guy because he likes a good parade every once in a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gollum Posted October 8, 2004 #57 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Oh sure, blast a guy because he likes a good parade every once in a while... You just cant beat a good parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted October 8, 2004 Author #58 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Sera you’re wasting your time, some people are on another planet, they don't think normal people. They think like the Borg. ... "The collective says I must think this and defend it to the death, in defiance of all contradictory information" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 11, 2004 #59 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Seraphina.......I 'do' think my country has to be more tolerant toward other countries and I, too, should be more tolerant of others' viewpoint, but I happen to think that Spain is 'knuckling under' here. I also understand what you are saying about Spain in that it has a history here, but I think the terrorists have more to do with Spain's actions than you think. And, oh_ about the sign Aquarius.... no harm in a little astrological research, is there? When you mentioned 'contradiction' a bell went off and I had to pursue that line, especially since I didn't see 'any contradiction' (and still don't ) But anyhow, I like the sign, Aquarius; my sister is an Aquarian and I have had four good Aquarian friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 11, 2004 #60 Share Posted October 11, 2004 (edited) edit Edited October 11, 2004 by Babs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 11, 2004 #61 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Sera you’re wasting your time, some people are on another planet, they don't think normal people. They think like the Borg. ... "The collective says I must think this and defend it to the death, in defiance of all contradictory information" 297107[/snapback] And Talon...what's the BORG? .............your 'collective' bu*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
final flight Posted October 11, 2004 #62 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Maybe Spains just mad because the US president invaded a country to settle his dads score from the first gulf war instead of actual intellegence. I will change my mind when the find the "weapons of mass destruction" Mr. Bush said Saddam had just waiting to fire at other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 11, 2004 #63 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Maybe Spains just mad because the US president invaded a country to settle his dads score from the first gulf war instead of actual intellegence. The Spanish government at the time was part of the coalition, although a non-combat supporting role. Their government has changed since then, and more reflects the population where the majority were against the war from the beginning. Also, the invasion was based on intelligence reports from more than just one country, and not to settle any scores I will change my mind when the find the "weapons of mass destruction" Mr. Bush said Saddam had just waiting to fire at other countries. You might be waiting a long time, since that issue is pretty much dead right now. Keep in mind, Bush and Blair(among others) said this based on intelligence reports. If anyone is to blame, it’s the intelligence community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted October 11, 2004 Author #64 Share Posted October 11, 2004 .............your 'collective' bu*t Wow, such great debating skills Babs, your way with words continues to blow me out of the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted October 12, 2004 #65 Share Posted October 12, 2004 .............your 'collective' bu*t Wow, such great debating skills Babs, your way with words continues to blow me out of the water 301728[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted October 12, 2004 #66 Share Posted October 12, 2004 urg.... You know, I can at least respect people like Joc...hell, I can even respect Erikl....because they know enough to actually BACK UP their point of veiw. Biased or jaded as their sources are, and no matter how much I may disagree with their initial stance that led them to whatever they believe, I can nevertheless look at them and say: "At least I can see how they might arrive at their conclusions." You Babs....you I think are an embarassment to your own side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 12, 2004 #67 Share Posted October 12, 2004 ....did I hit a nerve, Seraphina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 12, 2004 #68 Share Posted October 12, 2004 .............your 'collective' bu*t Wow, such great debating skills Babs, your way with words continues to blow me out of the water 301728[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted October 12, 2004 #69 Share Posted October 12, 2004 No Babs, and I find it extremely sad that you think your insiginificant debating skills might be capable of doing so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 12, 2004 #70 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Babs you brought up a sign of the zodiac as part of your argument previously, joke or not is so childish it laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted October 12, 2004 #71 Share Posted October 12, 2004 When (and if) Babs thinks up an arguement that isn't either a sad attempt at humour, or a pitiful, parrot like echoing of the latest party line, or something she read of a bumper sticker, then I'll restract my statement about her debating skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 12, 2004 #72 Share Posted October 12, 2004 No Babs, and I find it extremely sad that you think your insiginificant debating skills might be capable of doing so 302709[/snapback] Well sor-rrry! I didn't take debate 101. You have me at a dis-advantage here. I'm not going to run all over the place landing links and gathering material, so you guys can come back with the 'same old agenda'. It would be a waste of time and effort and that I don't do. I am an economical type ( that also goes for 'economy of words'). If I can say what I want and get that message across in as few words as possible, I go for it. Unlike some of the more long-winded arguments you and some of your cronies go for. I'm not jumping through your hoops, miss Sera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted October 12, 2004 #73 Share Posted October 12, 2004 I am an economical type As in "economical with the truth" perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 12, 2004 #74 Share Posted October 12, 2004 What your saying their is a veiled way of saying "look i cant be bothered learning about my own argument or yours here , ill just blindly believe what i want to....now wheres my banjo and confederate flag".. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 12, 2004 #75 Share Posted October 12, 2004 (edited) I am an economical type As in "economical with the truth" perhaps? 302739[/snapback] Now what in tarnation does that mean? Edited October 12, 2004 by Babs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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