Alien Guttural Speech

[topsecretresearch]

Nazi UFO mythology seems to be very popular especially in Europe. The mytho is continually recycled by wishful thinkers who need a more terrestrial explanation. The Nazi's also make a great villain in the eyes of a lot of people because of the atrocities committed. Unfortunately there's no real evidence to support Nazi UFOs. As advanced as the Germans were a lot of their technology was still crude. They kind of paved the way for ICBMs, the space program, modern jet aircraft but I see nothing to indicate the Germans are behind CE3s and UFO reports.

See: Stupidities: THE ENDLESS RETURN OF THE NAZI SAUCERS

[psyche101]

Nazi UFO mythology seems to be very popular especially in Europe. The mytho is continually recycled by wishful thinkers who need a more terrestrial explanation. The Nazi's also make a great villain in the eyes of a lot of people because of the atrocities committed. Unfortunately there's no real evidence to support Nazi UFOs. As advanced as the Germans were a lot of their technology was still crude. They kind of paved the way for ICBMs, the space program, modern jet aircraft but I see nothing to indicate the Germans are behind CE3s and UFO reports.

See: Stupidities: THE ENDLESS RETURN OF THE NAZI SAUCERS

However, if human telepathy was achievable, surely this sort of duress and intensive testing would have proven such? Why is telepathy possible, and how does it work, can a human be involved in such a hypothetical process?

[Abramelin]

Are there any sound bites?

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Edited January 11, 2013 by Abramelin

[TheMacGuffin]

However, if human telepathy was achievable, surely this sort of duress and intensive testing would have proven such? Why is telepathy possible, and how does it work, can a human be involved in such a hypothetical process?

Himmler was the Nazi leader who was probably most interested in telepathy, and just about every other kind of esoteric subject, from astrology to reincarnation, He thought there had been a "pole shift" in the past and that the ancient German tribes once lived at the North and South Poles. He also thought he was the reincarnated German king Heinrich I and sent out expeditions to look for the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant. Yes, that really did happen, although I don't think they found either one.

Those Indiana Jones movies were based on fact to at least that extent, though, because Himmler was fascinated with any subjects like these.

http://books.google.com/books?id=AECPaiYFviwC&printsec=frontcover

Himmler believed in spiritualism, and that some advanced ET civilization had constructed the pyramids of Egypt. He often read books on all kinds of subjects like these, which became part of his "worldview".

http://books.google.com/books?id=GBQchepZ-7EC&pg=PA77&dq=himmler+telepathy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A6zvULmfFojs8wTno4GwDw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ

He also thought that the 'Aryans' had an ET origin and was often attempting to find evidence for this. He was also fascinated by Tibet and thought that the great lamas had powers of ESP, telepathy and so on.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HqwTjopbxxAC&pg=PT98&dq=himmler+telepathy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ia3vUOrZDJT88QSQqICwBA&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBA

[TheMacGuffin]

This book notes that Himmler ordered experiments with telepathy, as well as mind control and hypnosis, and thought that SS officers could be taught an 'ancient art' of sending messages telepathically.

I would say that the Nazis conducted experiments on just about anything, and of course Himmler was the man with unlimited numbers of human "test subjects", who was always eagerly encouraging weird experiments of all kinds.

http://books.google....ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ

And this book states that Himmler thought he had the power to influence people telepathically, and that this could also be taught.

http://books.google.com/books?id=b5r5BvpkJQkC&pg=PT342&dq=himmler+telepathy+experiments&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KbDvULaHIJGy8ATcuYHQCg&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBA

Like I said, if you want to discover strange Nazi experiments, Himmler is the best place to start.

Edited January 11, 2013 by TheMacGuffin

[TheMacGuffin]

Of course, one legitimate question would be whether someone like Himmler was simply a madman and a fanatic, which is also the same thing many people have asked about Hitler over the years.

Certainly they were evil men who followed an extremely racist ideology in which the so-called 'Aryans' were the Master Race and everyone else was there to be plundered, enslaved and exterminated. That's what Nazism really was at its core, along with the idea that they all had to obey all of Hitler's orders to the letter--and often did their best to exceed them while feathering their own nests along the way. Ultimately, the war they started also left their own country in ruins as well.

Were they just crazy? I don't think they would have gotten nearly as far as they did if they could just be easily brushed off like that. From Hitler on down, a number of them showed symptoms of a wide variety of mental illnesses, but they also seemed highly functional in taking power, setting up a dictatorship and very carefully preparing wars of aggression, so their madness did not prevent them from doing all that. Most of them just came right out of nowhere, but they were organized and cunning enough to take over Germany when the opportunity came.

They had some very weird and unconventional ideas about science, too, and ended up building all kinds of weapons that were ahead of their time. Even so, looking at the ideology of someone like Himmler, I'd have to say that it included a mishmash of kooky ideas that he picked up from his own reading.

[TheMacGuffin]

There was a very famous incident on the Eastern Front in 1941, with Himmler observing the mass shootings carried out by the SS Einstazgruppen near Minsk. He decided that this type of extermination was too hard on their own men, which is why he ordered them to start experimenting with gas chambers instead. Supposedly, he almost threw up when he saw the dead bodies in the mass graves.

"In August 1941 he had an experience that may have speeded up the extermination program. On that day, SS officer Erich von dem Bach Zewelski stood beside Himmler as he watched an Einsatzgruppe (SS extermination squad) shoot a hundred people, including women, in Minsk. He reports:

"When the first shots were heard and the victims collapsed, Himmler began to feel ill. He reeled, almost fell to the ground, then pulled himself together. Then he hurled abuse at the firing squad because of their poor marksmanship. Some of the women were still alive, for the bullets had simply wounded them." [Graber]

A residue of humanity, then, that made him ill, led Himmler to order soon afterwards that women and children should be killed in gas vans - a decision that led to the gas chambers of Auschwitz-Birkenau, the largest of which could hold up to three thousand victims at a time, and where Eichmann reckoned that two and a half million Jews alone were systematically murdered. [Hoess]"

http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/himmler.htm

Gen. Bach-Zilewski was one of the biggest mass murderers of the war and shot hundreds of thousands of people in Russia, but he was also concerned that it was turning his men into psychopaths who were "finished for life". They began to build gas chambers because they thought it wouldn't be as hard on their own men.

The Nazi newsreels showed Himmler visiting the ghetto and concentration camp at Minsk, but not his attendance at the mass executions.