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Imagine for a moment that you yourself were planning these attacks, and that you accepted the military philosophy and practice of deception, sleight-of-hand.

If you could tell a story, and make it appear that passenger planes had struck the buildings when in fact they were specially equipped drone aircraft, which would you employ?

On the contrary, all four 911 airliners have been accounted for and they had nothing to do with military drones. In fact, American Airlines and United Airlines confirmed the loss of their aircraft.

Text: United Airlines Statement on Plane Crashes

Following is a statement issued by United Airlines on the crash of Flight 93 near Pittsburgh and Flight 175 in a location that was not immediately disclosed:

United Airlines has now confirmed that two of its aircraft have crashed.

— UA 93, a Boeing 757 aircraft, departed from Newark, N.J. at 8:01 a.m. local time, bound for San Francisco, with 38 passengers on board, two pilots, five flight attendants.

— UA 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, departed from Boston at 7:58 a.m. local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers on board, two pilots and seven flight attendants.

United has confirmed it will dispatch a team to Johnstown, Pa., as soon as possible to assist, in every way possible, with the investigation and to provide assistance to the family members.

“Our thoughts are with the passengers, employees and family members of those involved. Today’s events are a tragedy and our prayers are with everyone at this time,” said James E. Goodwin, United’s CEO.

Goodwin said United is working with all the relevant authorities involved in today’s events and will provide further information as soon as it is available.

http://www.washingto..._text091101.htm

B-767 and B-757 Fleet histories of American Airlines

http://www.planespot...an-Airlines.php

http://www.planespot...an-Airlines.php

American Airlines, B-757-223, N644AA, (American 77)

Reserved N-Number "Mode S Code" - 52072030

was reserved on 9/15/2006

by Greenway, Jonathan James

PO Box 714

Frederick, Maryland

Deregistered Aircraft

Serial Number 24602

Mfgr - BOEING

MODEL 757-223

Year Manufactured 1991

Reason for Cancellation - Destroyed

Type Registration - Corporation

Certificate Issue Date 05/08/91

Mode S Code 52072030

Cancel Date 01/14/2002

Aircraft registration prior to Deregistration

Wilmington Trust Company Trustee

Rodney Sq North Attn Corp TRT ADM.

Wilmington, Delaware

Airworthyness

Engine Manufacturer ROLLS-ROYC

Engine Model RB.211 Series

Classification Standard

Category Transport

A/W Date 05/08/1991

http://registry.faa....umbertxt=N644AA

Flight AA77 on 9/11: New FDR Analysis Supports the Official Flight Path Leading to Impact with the Pentagon

The recent complete decoding of the FDR file has enlarged and clarified the information available and has thereby enabled resolution of the contradictions. It is clear that this file supports the official account of the course of flight AA 77 and the consequent impact with the Pentagon. The file thus also supports the majority of eyewitness reports.

http://journalof911s...ltimeter_92.pdf

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Even though controllers lost contact with American 77, Flight 77 could still have been tracked on the “tertiary” and “quadrary” radars. Remember, the B-757 is not a stealth aircraft and turning off the transponder is not going to make it impossible for it to be tracked, just difficult.

So what we have here is, confirmation from American Airlines and United Airlines the aircraft were theirs, which of course, had nothing to do with the U.S. military.

Would you actually go to the trouble of having rookie pilots hijack airplanes,...

Since you think that it took superhuman strength to conduct such a maneuver, perhaps you should get some pointers from this little 7 year old girl.

...or would you simply tell the story and put high value precisely controlled drones into use?

Looking at the altitude flight data, please show us where at any time, the aircraft was flown under remote control.

http://www.gwu.edu/~...BB196/doc02.pdf

Looking at the altitude data, at no time was that aircraft flown under remote control, which once again, proved that you are incorrect.

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You're using "intelligence" as an argument that the FBI knew that America would be attacked. This is is the same "intelligence" that has such a great track record, yes...?

The FBI and the CIA later admitted they made errors. Check it out.

C.I.A. Lays Out Errors It Made Before Sept. 11

WASHINGTON, Aug. 21 — A report released Tuesday by the Central Intelligence Agency includes new details of the agency’s missteps before the Sept. 11 attacks, outlining what the report says were failures to grasp the role being played by the terror mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and to assess fully the threats streaming into the C.I.A. in the summer of 2001.

http://www.worldsecu...admits-mistakes

FBI Chief Acknowledges 9/11 Errors

FBI Director Robert Mueller, acknowledging serious lapses in how the FBI mishandled some information prior to Sept. 11, suggested for the first time that investigators might have detected the terrorist plot if they had pursued leads more diligently.

Mueller's acknowledgment came amid two new disclosures of what could be missed hints about Sept. 11.

http://www.cbsnews.c...162-510607.html

FAA MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR 9-11

Despite a congressional panel investigating potential intelligence failures leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks releasing a report today that points to mistakes made by the CIA and FBI, an aviation security consultant says it is the Federal Aviation Administration that should take most of the blame for the tragedy.

http://www.wnd.com/2...iE4382TjQRiq.99

The fact is the FBI don't even list 9/11 as a crime Bin Laden committed. That's because he didn't and there's zero evidence he did.

Apparently, you failed to read the rest of the story.

PENTTBOM

The FBI was able to identify the 19 hijackers within a matter of days as few suspects made any effort to conceal their names on flight, credit card, and other records.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PENTTBOM

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You're using "intelligence" as an argument that the FBI knew that America would be attacked. This is is the same "intelligence" that has such a great track record, yes...?

The fact is the FBI don't even list 9/11 as a crime Bin Laden committed. That's because he didn't and there's zero evidence he did.

Sky provided evidence. All you provided is an opinion based on your obvious mis-trust of the FBI and government intelligence agencies.

Personal bias is not fact.

Now prove AQ didn't commit 9/11.

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FBI says no to Osama. End of story.

Let's take another look because the FBI linked the 911 attacks to al-Qaeda, and who was the head of al-Qaeda? Osama bin Laden.

FBI 911 INVESTIGATION

The investigators were quickly able to link the 19 men to the terrorist organization al Qaeda, by accessing their intelligence agency files.

http://www.fbi.gov/n...of-19-hijackers

Responsibility for the September 11 attacks

The investigators were quickly able to link the 19 men to the terrorist organization al-Qaeda, also by accessing material in their intelligence agency files. The New York Times reported on September 12 that: "Authorities said they had also identified accomplices in several cities who had helped plan and execute Tuesday’s attacks. Officials said they knew who these people were and important biographical details about many of them.

They prepared biographies of each identified member of the hijack teams, and began tracing the recent movements of the men." FBI agents in Florida investigating the hijackers quickly "descended on flight schools, neighborhoods and restaurants in pursuit of leads." At one flight school, "students said investigators were there within hours of Tuesday’s attacks." The Washington Post later reported that "In the hours after Tuesday’s bombings, investigators searched their files on [satam] al-Suqami and [Ahmed] al-Ghamdi, noted the pair’s ties to [Nabil] al-Marabh and launched a hunt for him."

Based on the evidence, authorities in the United States quickly asserted that Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda organization were solely responsible for the attacks, and other suspects were ruled out. The Government of the United Kingdom reached the same conclusion. Although he denied the attacks at first, Osama bin Laden had since claimed full responsibility.

So, al-Qaeda was behind the 911 attacks, which was later confirmed by Osama bin Laden, himself, and who was head of al-Qaeda during the 911 attacks? Osama bin Laden.

Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11

Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden appeared in a new message aired on an Arabic TV station Friday night, for the first time claiming direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States.

The militant Islamic group decided "we should destroy towers in America" because "we are a free people... and we want to regain the freedom of our nation," said bin Laden, dressed in yellow and white robes and videotaped against a plain brown background.

He also threatened new attacks if the policies of the U.S. government do not change.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...sage041029.html

Bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11

Usama bin Laden (search ) made his first televised appearance in more than a year Friday in which he admitted for the first time ordering the Sept. 11 attacks and accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people.

http://www.foxnews.c...l#ixzz2UkJxlgwK

Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape

Osama bin Laden said for the first time that he ordered the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001,

http://www.nytimes.c...30osamaCND.html

So, not only did the FBI tie al-Qaeda to the 911 attacks, which was headed by Osama bin Laden at the time of the attacks, but Osama bin Laden, himself, has admitted to his responsibility for the 911 attacks, and remember, Osama bin Laden declared war on the United States.

Bin Laden's Fatwa

The following text is a fatwa, or declaration of war, by Osama bin Laden first published in Al Quds Al Arabi, a London-based newspaper. The fatwa is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."

http://www.pbs.org/n...fatwa_1996.html

Declaration of War by Osama bin Laden, 1998

This statement is Osama bin Laden's second fatwa against the United States. As with the first, it was published in the newspaper Al Quds Al Arabi; the translation was provided by PBS. It was signed by bin Laden and four other terrorist leaders.

http://www.cfr.org/t...den-1998/p13175

To sum it up: the FBI tied Osama bin Laden to the 911 attacks, and Osama bin Laden, by his own admission, told the whole world that he was responsible for the 911 attacks. After all, bin Laden declared war on the United States and as a result of his declaration of war on the United States, he paid the ultimate price.

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FBI says no to Osama. End of story.

I said AQ did not mention OBL. Having trouble with reading comprehension?

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Imagine for a moment that you yourself were planning these attacks, and that you accepted the military philosophy and practice of deception, sleight-of-hand.

If you could tell a story, and make it appear that passenger planes had struck the buildings when in fact they were specially equipped drone aircraft, which would you employ?

Would you actually go to the trouble of having rookie pilots hijack airplanes, or would you simply tell the story and put high value precisely controlled drones into use?

But the trouble with that argument is, the technology to enable a plane the size of a 767 to be flown remotely with that kind of precision has still not been demonstrated to be practical, publicly at any rate. The Drones that regularly take out Al Qaeada's Second in command are very much smaller, much slower (they're basically large RC propeller driven models) and the dynamics are quite different. If this technology had been developed, in secrecy, 12 years ago, wouldn't it have been even more of, in fact very much more, of a gamble to use it very publicly, without any opportunity to test it out beforehand? Wouldn't using highly trained and dedicated pilots (who, if they were fanatical enough, wouldn't have hesitated to take on a suicide mission) actually be much safer, from the Conspirators' point of view?

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Sky provided evidence. All you provided is an opinion based on your obvious mis-trust of the FBI and government intelligence agencies.

Personal bias is not fact.

Now prove AQ didn't commit 9/11.

Well, given that, even if the Official version is accepted completely, the most generous thing that could be said is that the Intelligence agencies completely fouled up to a spectacular degree, then I think really, distrust of the Intelligenge agencies is a very reasonable position to take.

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Well, given that, even if the Official version is accepted completely, the most generous thing that could be said is that the Intelligence agencies completely fouled up to a spectacular degree, then I think really, distrust of the Intelligenge agencies is a very reasonable position to take.

Agreed.

The point is, a personal bias backed by mistrust, is not fact but an opinion.

Opinions are obviously not evidence.

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Sky provided evidence. All you provided is an opinion based on your obvious mis-trust of the FBI and government intelligence agencies.

Personal bias is not fact.

Now prove AQ didn't commit 9/11.

Sky did not provide evidence, he provided canned talking points and pictures. That is not evidence of anything.

You make the claim that AQ did thus and so, therefore the obligation falls upon you to prove your point. You cannot. Government statements do not NECESSARILY prove anything at all.

The burden is on you to prove your claim that AQ did whatever you're claiming.

I'm dubious--convince me with some proof.

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maybe its about time the discussion moved on to things like this :

Evolution of Project MKULTRA

With the CIA and National Security Council firmly established, the first in a series of covert

brainwashing programs was initiated by the Navy in the fall of 1947. Project CHATTER was developed in

response to the Soviet's "successes" through the use of "truth drugs." This rationale, however, was

simply a cover story if the program were to be exposed. The research focused on the identification and

testing of such drugs for use in interrogations and the recruitment of agents.[5] The project was officially

terminated in 1953.

The CIA decided to expand their efforts in the area of behavior modification, with the advent of

Project BLUEBIRD, approved by Director Allen Dulles in 1950. Its objectives were to: (1) discover a

means of conditioning personnel to prevent unauthorized extraction of information from them by known

means, (2) investigate the possibility of control of an individual by application of special interrogation

techniques, (3) investigate memory enhancement and (4) establish defensive means for preventing

hostile control of agency personnel. In August 1951, Project BLUEBIRD was renamed Project

ARTICHOKE, which evaluated offensive uses of interrogation techniques, including hypnosis and drugs.

The program ceased in 1956. Three years prior to the halt of Project ARTICHOKE, Project MKULTRA

came into existence on April 13, 1953 along the lines proposed by Richard Helms, Deputy Director of

Central Intelligence CDCI with the rationale of establishing a "special funding mechanism of extreme

sensitivity."[6]

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The CIA’s use of mind control to create killers is a matter of historical record. MK-ULTRA was the code name for a covert, illegal CIA human research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence that came to light in 1975 through investigations by the (Senator Frank) Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti insists that the program is ongoing and has not been abandoned.

Whether or not Jared Lee Loughner acted alone is being investigated by officials. A second suspect in the shootings is still being sought. However, Loughner’s obsession with mind control is confirmed and given the historical connection between such events and the use of Manchurian candidates, nothing can be ruled out at this stage

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Mind Control Victim's Letter to senator GLenn

...It is appropriate, therefore, that I write you about this matter of urgent importance regarding your work on the Human Research Subject Protections Act of 1997. I AM A VICTIM OF GOVERNMENT MIND CONTROL EXPERIMENTS -- MKULTRA PROGRAMS: MONARCH PROJECT. My mother, XXX, has verified twice and recently that, indeed, I was used in these vicious human experiments in the Los Angeles area at the time you were preparing for the Mercury flights in conjunction with the Air Force's SSD's early research.

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Project MKUltra was the code name of a U.S. government covert research operation experimenting in the behavioral engineering of humans (mind control) through the CIA's Scientific Intelligence Division. The program began in the early 1950s, was officially sanctioned in 1953, was reduced in scope in 1964, further curtailed in 1967 and officially halted in 1973.[1] The program engaged in many illegal activities;[2][3][4][5] in particular it used unwitting U.S. and Canadian citizens as its test subjects, which led to controversy regarding its legitimacy.[6][7][8][9] MKUltra involved the use of many methodologies to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture.[10]

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I enjoy every bit of conspiracy theories as much as any other but this is just beyond the scope of a paranoid nut to make up such things ....

“Worse Than Benedict Arnold”

On July 1 the Smoking Gun website put up 14 pages from more than 500 FBI transcripts and memoranda, showing that Leary was volunteering to snitch, then snitching to the feds about his knowledge of the Weather Underground and almost anyone else Leary thought the feds might be interested in, including his former wife Rosemary, his attorneys and the wife of one of his attorneys. This was 1974 when Leary was in Folsom prison in northeastern California, after convictions for a number of marijuana busts plus time for his jail break.

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The Smoking Gun website no longer has the transcripts .....

I wonder if any of you can source it up again ...

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The Smoking Gun website no longer has the transcripts .....

I wonder if any of you can source it up again ...

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If you are referring to the 911 attacks, what smoking gun?

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If you are referring to the 911 attacks, what smoking gun?

I haven't read or seen the files .. that's why I'm inquiring .... never mind ... it seems its all unrelated as I've been told recently

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No, but according to the FBI's own website...they don't consider Bin Laden responsible for 9/11.

On the contrary, if you go to the website of the FBI, you can read these few words.

FBI: Most Wanted Terrorist Dead

Bin Laden Killed in ‘Targeted Operation’

The mastermind of the attacks on September 11, 2001 that killed thousands of innocent men, women, and children has been killed.

Intelligence agencies quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by bin Laden’s terrorist organization, and in October 2001, his name was added to the U.S. Department of State’s Most Wanted Terrorists List.

http://www.fbi.gov/n...binladen_050211

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Yet on his official page which is supposed to list WHAT he was proven to have committed, and why he was wanted, it's nowhere to be found...aka no evidence except Bush pointing his finger.

The FBI made it clear that bin Laden and his terrorist organization was responsible for the 911 attacks. Read it again from the lips of the FBI:

The mastermind of the attacks on September 11, 2001 that killed thousands of innocent men, women, and children has been killed.

Now, Osama bin Laden.

Bin Laden Admits 9/11 Responsibility, Warns of More Attacks

A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television

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9-11... Who really did it?

Of the 103 people named on the list of suspected 9-11 Criminal Co-conspirators there are

  • 22 current or former members of George W. Bush’s White House (21.4%);
  • 4 current or former members of Congress (3.9%);
  • 6 current or former FBI agents or officials (5.8%);
  • 6 current or former CIA agents or officials (5.8%);
  • 6 current or former officials of New York (5.8%);
  • 12 former high-ranking USG military commanders (11.7%);or current
  • 13 current or former (not included above) (12.6%);officials USG
  • 12 current or former members of PNAC (11.7%);
  • 16 consultants, lobbyists, or members of a “think tank” (not including PNAC) (15.5%);
  • 12 engineers (11.7%);
  • 34 current or former corporate executives (33.0%);
  • 4 senior “statesmen” (3.9%);
  • 5 members of the Bush family (4.9%);
  • 1 Canadian (1.0%);
  • 1 Pakistani (1.0%);
  • 2 Arabs (1.9%);
  • 2 Brits (1.9%);
  • 4 known or suspected Mossad agents (3.9%);
  • 14 people who hold “dual citizenship” (13.6%); and
  • 27 Israelis and Zionists (including people with “dual citizenship” noted above) (26.2%).”

the co conspirators are named here ,not all of them as i can add a few to the list myself and when they are rounded up we mustn't forget those that are still peddling this monstrous lie they are co conspirators in murder also.

http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

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9-11... Who really did it?

Of the 103 people named on the list of suspected 9-11 Criminal Co-conspirators there are

  • 22 current or former members of George W. Bush’s White House (21.4%);
  • 4 current or former members of Congress (3.9%);
  • 6 current or former FBI agents or officials (5.8%);
  • 6 current or former CIA agents or officials (5.8%);
  • 6 current or former officials of New York (5.8%);
  • 12 former high-ranking USG military commanders (11.7%);or current
  • 13 current or former (not included above) (12.6%);officials USG
  • 12 current or former members of PNAC (11.7%);
  • 16 consultants, lobbyists, or members of a “think tank” (not including PNAC) (15.5%);
  • 12 engineers (11.7%);
  • 34 current or former corporate executives (33.0%);
  • 4 senior “statesmen” (3.9%);
  • 5 members of the Bush family (4.9%);
  • 1 Canadian (1.0%);
  • 1 Pakistani (1.0%);
  • 2 Arabs (1.9%);
  • 2 Brits (1.9%);
  • 4 known or suspected Mossad agents (3.9%);
  • 14 people who hold “dual citizenship” (13.6%); and
  • 27 Israelis and Zionists (including people with “dual citizenship” noted above) (26.2%).”

the co conspirators are named here ,not all of them as i can add a few to the list myself and when they are rounded up we mustn't forget those that are still peddling this monstrous lie they are co conspirators in murder also.

http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

Wrong Again, because Osama bin Laden has already admitted that he was responsible for the 911 attacks.

Bin Laden Admits 9/11 Responsibility, Warns of More Attacks

A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television Friday showed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden admitting for the first time that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and saying the United States could face more.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/binladen_10-29-04.html

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Poppet

That is an interesting list, for sure. Both Zionists and gentiles. :whistle:

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Hello skyeagle

I read your link with interest as I had a couple of moments to spare, and to be honest I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when this statement is made “Although there was no way to authenticate the tape or say when it was made “this immediately downgrades the information to the bin ,are you so obsessed with trying to fit Osama into the crime you ignore what’s their right in front of you ………….you wasn’t involved on the 9/11 commission report, was you ?

It’s a pretty scary thought that people will go to such lengths to protect these murders.

[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrTeBDetcfw[/media]

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Hello skyeagle

I read your link with interest as I had a couple of moments to spare, and to be honest I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when this statement is made “Although there was no way to authenticate the tape or say when it was made “this immediately downgrades the information to the bin ,are you so obsessed with trying to fit Osama into the crime you ignore what’s their right in front of you ………….you wasn’t involved on the 9/11 commission report, was you ?

It’s a pretty scary thought that people will go to such lengths to protect these murders.

[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrTeBDetcfw[/media]

They need to concentrate on the real terrorist responsible for war crimes.

Major Terrorist Acts Suspected of or Inspired by al-Qaeda

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0884893.html

Wave of Car Bombs Kills Dozens in Iraq

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/world/middleeast/iraq.html

Terrorist Bomb Kills Dozens and Injures Hundreds - Pakistan

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=984_1362378061

Al-Qaida timeline: Plots and attacks

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4677978/ns/world_news-hunt_for_al_qaida/t/al-qaida-timeline-plots-attacks/#.UfcDfCqF_vg

The Bojinka Plot

The details of Phase I were found in the evidence discovered in the investigation into Room 603 in the Doña Josefa. If Phase II of the plot had been successful, it would have been, in terms of casualties, the most devastating terrorist attack in recent history.

The next plan would have involved at least five terrorists, including Yousef, Shah, Murad and two more unknown operatives. Beginning on January 21, 1995, and ending on January 22, 1995, they would have placed bombs on 11 United States-bound airliners which had stopovers scattered throughout East Asia and Southeast Asia. All of the flights had two legs. The bombs would be planted inside life jackets under seats on the first leg, and each bomber would then disembark. He would then board one or two more flights and repeat. After all of the bombers had planted bombs on all of the flights, each man would then catch flights to Lahore, Pakistan. The men never needed U.S. visas, as they only would have been on the planes for their first legs in Asia.

United States airlines had been chosen instead of Asian airlines so as to maximize the shock toward Americans. The flights targeted were listed under operatives with codenames: "Zyed", "Majbos", "Markoa", "Mirqas" and "Obaid". Obaid, who was really Abdul Hakim Murad, was to hit United Flight 80, and then he was to go back to Singapore on another United flight which he would bomb.

Phase III, CIA plane crash plot

Abdul Hakim Murad confessed detailed Phase III in his interrogation by the Manila police after his capture.

Phase three would have involved Murad either renting, buying, or hijacking a small airplane, preferably a Cessna. The airplane would be filled with explosives. He would then crash it into the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in the Langley area in Fairfax County, Virginia. Murad had been trained as a pilot in North Carolina, and was slated to be a suicide pilot.

There were alternate plans to hijack a 12th commercial airliner and use that instead of the small aircraft, probably due to the Manila cell's growing frustration with explosives. Testing explosives in a house or apartment is dangerous, and it can easily give away a terrorist plot. Khalid Sheik Mohammed probably made the alternate plan.

A report from the Philippines to the United States on January 20, 1995 stated, "What the subject has in his mind is that he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters."

Another plot that was considered would have involved the hijacking of more airplanes. The World Trade Center (New York City, New York), The Pentagon (Arlington, Virginia), the United States Capitol (Washington, D.C.), the White House (Washington, D.C.), the Sears Tower (Chicago, Illinois), and the U.S Bank Tower (Los Angeles, California), would have been the likely targets. Abdul Hakim Murad said that this part of the plot was dropped since the Manila cell could not recruit enough people to implement other hijackings in his confession with Filipino investigators, prior to the foiling of Operation Bojinka. This plot eventually would be the base plot for the September 11, 2001 attacks which involved hijacking commercial airliners as opposed to small aircraft loaded with explosives and crashing them into their intended targets. However, only the World Trade Center (which was destroyed) and The Pentagon (which suffered partial damage) were hit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka_plot

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Poppet

That is an interesting list, for sure. Both Zionists and gentiles. :whistle:

Nothing that pans out. :no:

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Watching Bill Maher's show last night, he showed an old B&W photo of J. Edgar Hoover and 2 other men examining a "suitcase nuke" back in the 60's. It would have required a larger suitcase to fit into, and it weighed 50 some odd pounds.

Nonetheless, it was quite compact for a nuclear weapon. Bill even gave the military designation for the weapon, but I can't remember it exactly right now. Something or other, Mark I, which sounds right.

Fast forward to 2001. What sort of small nuclear device has that now evolved into? Only curious minds want to know. :innocent:

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Watching Bill Maher's show last night, he showed an old B&W photo of J. Edgar Hoover and 2 other men examining a "suitcase nuke" back in the 60's. It would have required a larger suitcase to fit into, and it weighed 50 some odd pounds.

Nonetheless, it was quite compact for a nuclear weapon. Bill even gave the military designation for the weapon, but I can't remember it exactly right now. Something or other, Mark I, which sounds right.

Fast forward to 2001. What sort of small nuclear device has that now evolved into? Only curious minds want to know. :innocent:

Suitcase nukes are nothing new, but don't try to apply that fact to the 911 attacks because nuclear weapons leave behind clear-cut evidence,....evidence which wasn't found at ground zero. In case you were unaware, not even Steven Jones was willing to go that far.

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Suitcase nukes are nothing new, but don't try to apply that fact to the 911 attacks because nuclear weapons leave behind clear-cut evidence,....evidence which wasn't found at ground zero. In case you were unaware, not even Steven Jones was willing to go that far.

sky i would add Dr Steven Jones to the 103 co-conspirator list i provided and that man alone has stalled humanities quest for an alternative energy source for the last 20 years.

evidence was found at ground zero for "nukes" Tritium levels in the basement of WTC 6 were 55 times greater than background 11 days after 9/11 and a million liters of rain and firehouse water had diluted the samples. Had the samples been collected before it rained twice and the fireman sprayed all of the water they could have potentially been above 6.12 billion TUs. That level would be equivalent to a leaking nuclear power plant (hot fusion).

The buildings DID NOT TURN TO DUST IN PLACE! Indeed a 300 ton chunk of the North Tower was ejected 600 + feet into the Winter Garden this puts an end to the ridiculous claim that the building collapsed due to a pancake gravity collapse ,it's no wonder the NIST report has never been peer reviewed .LOL

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the image on the left shows a piece of the north tower being blown out at a 45 degree projection how is that possible in a downward gravitational collaspe ,another myth would be the the north and south tower came down in it's own foot print, this would also appear to be untrue .

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Watching Bill Maher's show last night, he showed an old B&W photo of J. Edgar Hoover and 2 other men examining a "suitcase nuke" back in the 60's. It would have required a larger suitcase to fit into, and it weighed 50 some odd pounds.

Nonetheless, it was quite compact for a nuclear weapon. Bill even gave the military designation for the weapon, but I can't remember it exactly right now. Something or other, Mark I, which sounds right.

Fast forward to 2001. What sort of small nuclear device has that now evolved into? Only curious minds want to know. :innocent:

hello Babe Ruth you make a very good point , i would say that after more than 60 years of development nukes have gone from the size of the "fat man" down to perhaps the size of an apple and why wouldn't the military pursue that type of weapon .

for curious minds and a massive amount of data confirming the use of such devices click the link provided below and if any of the data can be debunked I'm all ears.

http://edwardmd.word...nt-involvement/

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The buildings DID NOT TURN TO DUST IN PLACE! Indeed a 300 ton chunk of the North Tower was ejected 600 + feet into the Winter Garden this puts an end to the ridiculous claim that the building collapsed due to a pancake gravity collapse ,it's no wonder the NIST report has never been peer reviewed .LOL

The only think "LOL" here are the lunatic morons who have slept through half a century of islamist terrorism and claim that one particular islamist terrorist act (albeit a pretty spectacular one) was some sort of monstrous conpiracy, involving EVERYTHING BUT 11 shahids on their way to paradise.

Sheesh!

9-11 troothers are an embarrassment to this board.

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sky i would add Dr Steven Jones to the 103 co-conspirator list i provided and that man alone has stalled humanities quest for an alternative energy source for the last 20 years.

evidence was found at ground zero for "nukes" Tritium levels in the basement of WTC 6 were 55 times greater than background 11 days after 9/11 and a million liters of rain and firehouse water had diluted the samples. Had the samples been collected before it rained twice and the fireman sprayed all of the water they could have potentially been above 6.12 billion TUs. That level would be equivalent to a leaking nuclear power plant (hot fusion).

The buildings DID NOT TURN TO DUST IN PLACE! Indeed a 300 ton chunk of the North Tower was ejected 600 + feet into the Winter Garden this puts an end to the ridiculous claim that the building collapsed due to a pancake gravity collapse ,it's no wonder the NIST report has never been peer reviewed .LOL

Debris-ejected-640x241_zps8e732856.jpg

the image on the left shows a piece of the north tower being blown out at a 45 degree projection how is that possible in a downward gravitational collaspe ,another myth would be the the north and south tower came down in it's own foot print, this would also appear to be untrue .

gw500h493_zpsa4b52186.jpg

hello Babe Ruth you make a very good point , i would say that after more than 60 years of development nukes have gone from the size of the "fat man" down to perhaps the size of an apple and why wouldn't the military pursue that type of weapon .

for curious minds and a massive amount of data confirming the use of such devices click the link provided below and if any of the data can be debunked I'm all ears.

http://edwardmd.word...nt-involvement/

Listen very carefully because nukes were not used at ground zero and there was no radiation hazards at ground zero, which can be ascertained by photos of clean-up operations. Are these photos of people working in a high radiation hazardous area?

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Of course not. This is a crater of a nuke.

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Was such a crater found at ground zero? To sum it up, the nuke story was in fact, a hoax.

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