Still Waters Posted March 22, 2013 #1 Share Posted March 22, 2013 A pre-Viking woolen tunic found beside a thawing glacier in south Norway shows how global warming is proving something of a boon for archaeology, scientists said on Thursday. The greenish-brown, loose-fitting outer clothing — suitable for a person up to about 5 feet, 9 inches tall (176 centimeters) — was found 6,560 feet (2,000 meters) above sea level on what may have been a Roman-era trade route in south Norway. Carbon dating showed it was made around the year 300. http://science.nbcne...rchaeology?lite 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted March 22, 2013 #2 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I wonder if they found my wooden peg leg ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 22, 2013 #3 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) That's too cool! Now for my complaint. From the article: OSLO — A pre-Viking woolen tunic found beside a thawing glacier in south Norway shows how global warming is proving something of a boon for archaeology, scientists said on Thursday. Also from the article: "It's worrying that glaciers are melting, but it's exciting for us archaeologists," also this: The shrinkage is blamed on climate change, stoked by human-caused emissions of greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels. and this The experts in Oslo said one puzzle was why anyone would take off a warm tunic by a glacier. One possibility was that the owner was suffering from cold in a snowstorm and grew confused with hypothermia, which sometimes makes suffers take off clothing because they wrongly feel hot. Oh come on!!! If that's true where is the corpse? Obviously this glacier has grown since this tunic was likey not left on the ice. As a matter of fact it was warm enough to take off your tunic right? My point being that glaciers ebb and flow like the tide of a more liquid form of water only much much more slowly. Stop using every opportunity to try to make it seem as though soon there will be no ice in the world and how tragic this will be for all of us. Edited March 22, 2013 by OverSword 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted March 22, 2013 #4 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Also, is it just me or does the scientist look like Sigourney Weaver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted March 22, 2013 #5 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Sad the glaciers are melting but this is a great find, glad they found it before it start rotting. I think they need to get busy and find some more artifacts before its too late. I think she looks like Sigourney Weaver too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted March 23, 2013 #6 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Maybe there was a Sauna hut around there at the time ?.Don't these guys use Sauna's in the snow then run out butt nekid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Der Box Skeptisch Posted March 23, 2013 #7 Share Posted March 23, 2013 See people its a cycle. Global warming is a cycle. Glaciers will recede and advance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar77 Posted March 23, 2013 #8 Share Posted March 23, 2013 A more likely explanation is that it was a spare (or maybe being taken to sell) that fell out of someones pack. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted March 23, 2013 #9 Share Posted March 23, 2013 A more likely explanation is that it was a spare (or maybe being taken to sell) that fell out of someones pack. It still means that the glacier was this small before. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted March 23, 2013 #10 Share Posted March 23, 2013 See people its a cycle. Global warming is a cycle. Glaciers will recede and advance. You can't tax everyone if it is cyclical and normal, it has to be man-made so Al Gore can make another Billion. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted March 23, 2013 #11 Share Posted March 23, 2013 People have been known to take off clothes as they get confused as they freeze. This could have happened and then he wandered off. However, I like the "Oscar 77" answer (above) better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava_Lady Posted March 23, 2013 #12 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That tunic has some skinny sleeves... Maybe it's just the angle the photo was taken but it looks like a very wiry person wore it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draugr Posted March 23, 2013 #13 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That tunic has some skinny sleeves... Maybe it's just the angle the photo was taken but it looks like a very wiry person wore it. It being wool means it's probably a very stretchy fabric. It was probably meant to fit very snugly. And looking at it, it almost looks like it's knitted in a rib stitch. And if it's knit/woven in anything like that, it'll be super stretchy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted March 23, 2013 #14 Share Posted March 23, 2013 He may have simplyg changed and forgot it. But, I don't see how. Most peopler tadke a change cloths except for their coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted March 23, 2013 #15 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I was wondering where I left that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted March 23, 2013 #16 Share Posted March 23, 2013 pretty cool ! the tunic was carbon dated at year 300 .. so, the glacier was at that level (as danielost said)... then continued to thicken and expand.. until, melting outpaced growth. (just thought someone should state the obvious ,lol) hi Aus Der Box Sceptisch , you mentioned that global warming is a cycle.. Do you know of a chart or graph that shows these cycles?... and, the durations of these cycles? not to put you on the spot... i'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimfloppp Posted March 23, 2013 #17 Share Posted March 23, 2013 i wish i were the one who found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimfloppp Posted March 23, 2013 #18 Share Posted March 23, 2013 i wish i were the one who found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimfloppp Posted March 23, 2013 #19 Share Posted March 23, 2013 maybe the glacier was not there when whoever lost it lost il. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient astronaut Posted March 24, 2013 #20 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The Condition of it(the tunic)is amazing!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsec Posted March 24, 2013 #21 Share Posted March 24, 2013 See people its a cycle. Global warming is a cycle. Glaciers will recede and advance. You can't tax everyone if it is cyclical and normal, it has to be man-made so Al Gore can make another Billion. No serious scientist ever said that it's not a cycle. And researchers don't say that's man-made. We know very well that the average temperatures change during time, and in the last hundred of thousands of years there have been warm periods alternated with cooler (if not glacial) ones. If the tunic's dating is correct, it falls perfectly in the Roman Warm Period, spanning more or less from 250 BC to 400 AD. It was a warmer time than today's, Romans were even able to cultivate grapevine in Germany (The famous Rheinwein is all that's left, thanks to the river Rehin's microclimate). So, no wonder that it lied under the ice for all this time. The problem isn't that the antropic activity triggered the climate change, but that it enhances this change. We don't even know if, by nature, we're headed to an even warmer period or if we're already on the pike and soon there will be another cold period. What we know, is that man is changing the rules of the game and maybe he's also changing the famous "cycle" Aus Der Box Skeptisch talks about. It's a fact that temperatures are rising. If we help this process with our actions, increasing the speed of change and rising the temperatures even more, we could pass the point of no return, destroying nature's balance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted March 24, 2013 #22 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Glaciers advance and recede , but when was the last time the arctic had ice free summers? Isn't that what 'they' are talking about happening soon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted March 24, 2013 #23 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Glaciers advance and recede , but when was the last time the arctic had ice free summers? Isn't that what 'they' are talking about happening soon? During the ice age. That is due to the gulf stream flowing into the arctic ocean. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted March 24, 2013 #24 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) A pre-Viking woolen tunic found beside a thawing glacier in south Norway shows how global warming is proving something of a boon for archaeology, scientists said on Thursday. The greenish-brown, loose-fitting outer clothing — suitable for a person up to about 5 feet, 9 inches tall (176 centimeters) — was found 6,560 feet (2,000 meters) above sea level on what may have been a Roman-era trade route in south Norway. Carbon dating showed it was made around the year 300. http://science.nbcne...rchaeology?lite The melting of glaciers is a natural process. Nothing to do with global warming. Edited March 24, 2013 by TheLastLazyGun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted March 25, 2013 #25 Share Posted March 25, 2013 The melting of glaciers is a natural process. Nothing to do with global warming. ? I would say it has something to do with global warming. If it were global cooling, they wouldn't be melting. These finds are one of the positives of global warming. Another is the extra farmable land. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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