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Stealth bombers sent to S. Korea

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Mr Right Wing

Yes the people in North Korea are starving while Idiot Boy is obese. They have problems with cannibalism there because these people don't have enough to eat. Yet he's worried about starting a war and building nuclear weapons.

You should see a satellite image taken at night of the place. Except for one little spot it was dark.

North Korea is Dark

This article is from January 29, 2013.

Cannibalism Reported in Famine-Stricken North Korea

Please view - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Street_lights_in_North_Korea

Notice North Korea has street lamps. Now why would they need them if they didnt have electricity at night? In fact how do we actually know anything about whats going on inside North Korea?

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Ashotep

I see some high line wires too but I wonder if they work.

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Zaphod222

Please view - http://commons.wikim..._in_North_Korea

Notice North Korea has street lamps. Now why would they need them if they didnt have electricity at night? In fact how do we actually know anything about whats going on inside North Korea?

"Having" street lamps does not mean that they have bulbs in them or that they are turned on. And actually, there are foreigners in North Korea, some diplomats, lecturers, visitors, businessmen etc. Although of course heavily monitored, it is not like as if NK was completely sealed off.

Plus, of course, we have a steady stream of defectors, who can report about NK, including, interestingly,Kim Yong Ils ex private chef, and even one of his sons himself.

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Mr.United_Nations

Please view - http://commons.wikim..._in_North_Korea

Notice North Korea has street lamps. Now why would they need them if they didnt have electricity at night? In fact how do we actually know anything about whats going on inside North Korea?

Tourists, embassies, workers...

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Mr Right Wing

Tourists, embassies, workers...

Propaganda?

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Mr.United_Nations

Propaganda?

Do you know how to go to North Korea? you really dont know anything on what is going on

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Thanato

Propaganda?

Yes the North is quite good at dishing out Propaganda, that is why the people are so willing to endure the hardships of famine and not having electrical power outside of the main cities.

~Thanato

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Mr Right Wing

Do you know how to go to North Korea? you really dont know anything on what is going on

Yes

If you're American you've near enough got no chance with your application to visit the country. Everyone else can go and watch their games.

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Mr.United_Nations

Yes

If you're American you've near enough got no chance with your application to visit the country. Everyone else can go and watch their games.

Well thats Bs, Americans can go

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Star of the Sea

This gives us a better insight into Kim Jong-un :ph34r:

As Kim Jong-un plays the tough guy, his aunt and uncle hold the reins of power... more from the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9976634/As-Kim-Jong-un-plays-the-tough-guy-his-aunt-and-uncle-hold-the-reins-of-power.html

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Mr.United_Nations

Sounds like the Assads

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Sakari

Well thats Bs, Americans can go

If one is stupid enough to go.....

No wandering around

Regardless of whether you're on your own or in a group, two Korean guides employed by the state-run Korea International Travel Company and a driver will accompany you at all times. This means you aren't able to get out and explore at will.

Although U.S. citizens can legally travel to North Korea, the U.S. State Department warns that travelers need to make sure their paperwork is pristine.

"The Department of State continues to warn U.S. citizens about travel to North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or DPRK)," says the State Department website.

"The North Korean government will detain, prosecute and sentence anyone who enters the DPRK without first having received explicit, official permission and an entry visa from its government."

Tourism is highly restricted, so booking a guided tour with one of the dozen or so companies endorsed by the state-run Korea International Travel Company is the only way in -- even if you're flying solo.

Despite the change in policy, U.S. citizens still face restrictions that don’t apply to other travelers. For instance, they can only enter the country via airplane, unlike travelers of other nationalities who can enter from China by train.

http://travel.cnn.com/how-travel-north-korea-042681

And more imoportant......

The Department of State continues to warn U.S. citizens about travel to North Korea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or DPRK). Travel by U.S. citizens to North Korea is not routine, and U.S. citizens crossing into North Korea, even accidentally, have been subject to arbitrary arrest and long-term detention. Since January 2009, four U.S. citizens have been arrested for entering North Korea illegally, and two U.S. citizens who entered on valid DPRK visas were arrested inside North Korea on other charges. This replaces the Travel Warning issued for North Korea on September 11, 2012, and it reminds U.S. citizens about the serious risks involved in traveling to the DPRK.

The Government of North Korea has not only imposed heavy fines on, but has also detained, arrested, and imprisoned persons who violated DPRK laws, such as entering the country illegally. Travelers to North Korea must enter the DPRK with a valid passport and valid DPRK visa. Foreign visitors to North Korea may be arrested, detained, or expelled for activities that would not be considered criminal outside North Korea, including involvement in unsanctioned religious and/or political activities (whether those activities took place inside or outside North Korea), unauthorized travel, or unauthorized interaction with the local population. North Korean security personnel may regard as espionage unauthorized or unescorted travel inside North Korea and unauthorized attempts to speak directly to North Korean citizens. North Korean authorities may fine or arrest travelers for exchanging currency with an unauthorized vendor, for taking unauthorized photographs, or for shopping at stores not designated for foreigners. It is a criminal act in North Korea to show disrespect to the country's former leaders, Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Sung, or to the current leader, Kim Jong Un.

If North Korean authorities permit you to keep your cell phone upon entry to the country, please keep in mind that you have no right to privacy in North Korea and should assume your communications are monitored. It is a criminal act to bring printed or electronic media criticizing the DPRK government into the country. If you bring electronic media, including USB drives, CD-ROMs, DVDs, or laptops, into North Korea, you must assume that North Korean authorities will review the information on those devices. Please be sure that the information contained on those devices does not violate North Korea's laws or regulations. North Korea's penalties for knowingly or unknowingly violating North Korea's laws are much harsher than U.S. penalties for similar offenses. Sentences for crimes can include years of detention in hard labor camps or death.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5907.html

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Ashotep

Looks like Pakistan has nuclear bombs because of North Korea back in the early 1990's. Then of course India had to have them. So will Iran get them next because of North Korea?

North Korean missile program clues may be in Pakistan

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Thanato

Looks like Pakistan has nuclear bombs because of North Korea back in the early 1990's. Then of course India had to have them. So will Iran get them next because of North Korea?

North Korean missile program clues may be in Pakistan

Pakistan had nukes since the 1980's (however the development dates back to the early 70's), they didn't test a nuke until 1998, which was in direct response to tests from India. North KOrea gave them the means to launch there bombs.

~Thanato

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HoboMoo

I live in Long Beach and there has been a lot of aircraft flying in and out. More than usual for the last month or so.

Something CRAZY just flew over about 10 min ago. So loud and it lasted at least 30 seconds. Truly bad things are happening in the world right now

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Mr.United_Nations

I live in Long Beach and there has been a lot of aircraft flying in and out. More than usual for the last month or so.

Something CRAZY just flew over about 10 min ago. So loud and it lasted at least 30 seconds. Truly bad things are happening in the world right now

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Finity

NK won't actually do anything.

If they start a war his dictatorship would come to an end and that is most likely what he fears the most. Whatever the outcome, NK would be left in ruins and they would have no outside help to rebuild. This isn't like WW2 where we have equal sides, they are on their own and would just be flattened.

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Thanato

NK won't actually do anything.

If they start a war his dictatorship would come to an end and that is most likely what he fears the most. Whatever the outcome, NK would be left in ruins and they would have no outside help to rebuild. This isn't like WW2 where we have equal sides, they are on their own and would just be flattened.

Then be occupied by the US and South Korea and a rebuilding a modernization program would be put in place. A new government would be put in place that would work towards a unified korea, mainly because the new government would be installed by the US and SK. But it would take awhile as SK would not want to absorb NK unless it was better off.

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A rather obscure Bassoon

Then be occupied by the US and South Korea and a rebuilding a modernization program would be put in place. A new government would be put in place that would work towards a unified korea, mainly because the new government would be installed by the US and SK. But it would take awhile as SK would not want to absorb NK unless it was better off.

The Chinese would intervene long before that,all they have to do is stop NK'S oil supply for a few days and little kimmy would fall into line.The last thing China wants is a unified Korea,and they are enjoying economic prosperity so they don't want war on the peninsula either.

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Thanato

The Chinese would intervene long before that,all they have to do is stop NK'S oil supply for a few days and little kimmy would fall into line.The last thing China wants is a unified Korea,and they are enjoying economic prosperity so they don't want war on the peninsula either.

They also don't want War with SK either because that could spell the end for the chinese economy.

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Ashotep

I found this story here where this guy was born in a prison camp in NK and grew up there. He finally escaped to the South.

North Korean prisoner escaped after 23 brutal years

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Star of the Sea

This is the most 'wacky' reason so far that I have read on why NK wants to start a war. From the Telegraph:

http://blogs.telegra...sacred-statues/

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Ashotep

Here is a map that shows how far his different missiles can travel. Just select a missile type and it will give you the range and will show the range on a map. In theory he can hit the US.

North Korea's missile capabilities

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Star of the Sea

Here is a map that shows how far his different missiles can travel. Just select a missile type and it will give you the range and will show the range on a map. In theory he can hit the US.

North Korea's missile capabilities

Scary stuff Hilander. What I would also like to know is why our British Prime Minister, David Cameron thought that the UK was also at risk :unsure2:

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Ashotep

I really don't know why the UK would be at risk for an attack unless a missile could reach them over land or maybe some of the UK interests would be at stake.

China seems to be taking NK threats seriously. They are having emergency drills along the border with NK.

US warns N Korea missile launch would be 'huge mistake'

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