Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies

[A rather obscure Bassoon]

Respect is for those that deserve and earn it,chances are those that have good to say about her live in the South and Southeast of England,the only region of the UK she did anything for.Let's not forget she introduced the Poll tax and in the end even her own Parliamentary Party turned on her.

Again I say good riddance to her,I despise her.

[Frank Merton]

I admired her. She was strong and stood for her beliefs and achieved for women things all the "feminists" can only dream about.

[+OverSword]

All those who show sympathy for the Iron Lady should have been living in the industroialized north of Britain during her Premiership. They should also talk to the many people she made homeless over that period. The communitees shes destroyed. They should maybe consider that she was one of the main instigators of the Bull market which has inevitably caused the Crash of the Credit crunch which we now live through.

She has far to many things to answer for to be missed.

I think you will find that that website echo's the sentiments of at least half of the population of Britain.

Br Cornelius

And yet the people elected and re-elected and re-re-elected her. Explanation?

[Space Commander Travis]

And yet the people elected and re-elected and re-re-elected her. Explanation?

Tax cuts and the encouragement of the "get rich at the expense of everyone else" mentality, which was the only thing that those in the sector of the audience that kept voting for her (middle class middle England, and that sector of the working class who were encouraged by Murdoch's media ("it was the Sun wot won it!")), were really concerned about, since more-money-in-your-pocket short-termism always trumps any longer-term considerations such as retaining a viable industrial base.

[Guest]

And yet the people elected and re-elected and re-re-elected her. Explanation?

She was about to be booted out after her first term but recieved a war boost with the falklands (which she worked to gain advantage from rather than sending in the partroopers to end it quickly when there were only a few Argintinians on the island).

I personally know of the sister of a war veteran from the Falklands - he had a terrible time after the war, became an alchoholic and eventually committed suicided.

Br Cornelius

Edited April 8, 2013 by Guest

[+OverSword]

I grew up during the Reagan/Thatcher era, and I believe the reason Reagan was so popular while in office was that he could really give you a sense of pride in America. Was there none of that with Thatcher?

[Frank Merton]

I just read a nasty piece in the Guardian. I must say the British left-wing often has no manners.

[Mr Right Wing]

I grew up during the Reagan/Thatcher era, and I believe the reason Reagan was so popular while in office was that he could really give you a sense of pride in America. Was there none of that with Thatcher?

There was plenty of that with victory over Argentina.

People either love or loath Maggie.

[+OverSword]

There was plenty of that with victory over Argentina.

People either love or loath Maggie.

Just one of many things Reagan and Thatcher had in common.

[Queen in the North]

I just read a nasty piece in the Guardian. I must say the British left-wing often has no manners.

For serious?

[Ealdwita]

It is by her deeds which she is measured. The fact that she died old doesn't garner any automatic respect from me.

If she had have been a nice person who worked for the good of the whole of the British population - we might be discussing a different story.

The time of a persons death is exactly the right point to be discussing the results of their lifes work. The world should know that she was the most despised political leader of the post war generation as well as the most loved. I am just glad that they put paid to the idea of a state funeral - otherwise I would be on my way to England to make my feeling known to the world.

Br Cornelius

Then I await with bated breath the world's condemnation of the murderous, terrorist thug Mandela when he's called to face what I hope will be the eternal punishment he so rightly deserves! Yeah right! It'll be sackcloth, ashes and rending of garments right across the face of the earth if the trendies have their way!

Isn't it a little strange that many of the 'good riddance' type posts on here are coming from overseas?

And yet the people elected and re-elected and re-re-elected her. Explanation?

Because she represented the 'silent majority' - the citizens who could see the utter waste of profligate nationalised industries and services, and the iron grip inflicted on the nation by trade union leaders whose purpose was to dictate their policies to Parliament by forcing their members to go on strikes that they could ill afford whilst the likes of Arthur Scargill lorded it in the champagne lifestyle to which he still to this day believes he's entitled! If only our present 'leaders' had half as much backbone as Maggie Thatcher possessed!

For all those too young to have experienced those days, and overseas posters who need information on this, http://en.wikipedia....r_of_Discontent

Edited April 8, 2013 by ealdwita

[Guest]

As far as i am concerned the cure killed the patient. It took a decade or so of lingering - but the death was inevitable.

A country so reliant on finacial services that it can no longer balance its books once the credit bubble burst - she set the foundations - her admires played out the script.

I lived most of my life in the run up to Thatcher and the aftermath. I left the country (along with many others) because of the direction she turned the country in.

Br Cornelius

Edited April 8, 2013 by Guest

[A rather obscure Bassoon]

Isn't it a little strange that many of the 'good riddance' type posts on here are coming from overseas?

I lived in the UK as she slowly turned it into Mcdonalds land.

Edited April 8, 2013 by shaddow134

[Ealdwita]

As far as i am concerned the cure killed the patient. It took a decade or so of lingering - but the death was inevitable.

A country so reliant on finacial services that it can no longer balance its books once the credit bubble burst - she set the foundations - her admires played out the script.

I lived most of my life in the run up to Thatcher and the aftermath. I left the country (along with many others) because of the direction she turned the country in.

Br Cornelius

IMO, the main reason her 'cure' had unintended consequences, was that the reins of government was taken up by a wet lettuce called John Major who lacked the presence and stagecraft required of a good Prime Minister and would have made a proficient Archbishop, and who was in turn followed by Tony (Teflon) Blair, of whom we are learning ever more each day! (Nuff said about him!)

[Queen in the North]

I guess today isn't the day for a rousing rendition of 'Merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher' from Billy Elliot...

Edited April 8, 2013 by Queen in the North

[A rather obscure Bassoon]

Along with Bair,Brown she ranks along the worst PM's the UK ever had.

[Guest]

IMO, the main reason her 'cure' had unintended consequences, was that the reins of government was taken up by a wet lettuce called John Major who lacked the presence and stagecraft required of a good Prime Minister and would have made a proficient Archbishop, and who was in turn followed by Tony (Teflon) Blair, of whom we are learning ever more each day! (Nuff said about him!)

She was the reason - she deregulated the financial services with inevitable consequences. She divested the country of a maunfacturing base with inevitable consequences. She did these things - no one else. She would have caused a civil war if her own party hadn't chucked her out.

Hardly a grand resuma.

Br Cornelius

[A rather obscure Bassoon]

She was the reason - she deregulated the financial services with inevitable consequences. She divested the country of a maunfacturing base with inevitable consequences. She did these things - no one else. She would have caused a civil war if her own party hadn't chucked her out.

Hardly a grand resuma.

Br Cornelius

Her policy on the poll tax caused large scale disobedience.

[dannyboy52]

The people of Scotland will be rejoicing, as I will.Unless you ived in Scotland in the 80's you have no idea what this evil woman accomplished.She shut Scotland down basically.She will not be missed.

[TSS]

She divested the country of a maunfacturing base with inevitable consequences.

Hmm, but how can you say that without qualifying that statement with the fact that successive governments prior to hers killed of manufacturing too by failing to invest in it? She hammered the nail in coffin for many manufacturing communities, that can't be denied, but to imply her policies alone did this are not true.

[Space Commander Travis]

Because she represented the 'silent majority' - the citizens who could see the utter waste of profligate nationalised industries and services, and the iron grip inflicted on the nation by trade union leaders whose purpose was to dictate their policies to Parliament by forcing their members to go on strikes that they could ill afford whilst the likes of Arthur Scargill lorded it in the champagne lifestyle to which he still to this day believes he's entitled! If only our present 'leaders' had half as much backbone as Maggie Thatcher possessed!

For all those too young to have experienced those days, and overseas posters who need information on this, http://en.wikipedia....r_of_Discontent

So "we can buy anything we need cheap from China" was a sound policy to encourage for the long term health of the country? Certainly the Unions needed taking in hand, but detsroying entire industries in order to do so really was cutting off the long term nose to spite the face, I feel.

[ciriuslea]

Her policy on the poll tax caused large scale disobedience.

And that's putting it politely,

I remember the riots like they were yesterday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47551000/jpg/_47551824_placards_gray511.jpg

[A rather obscure Bassoon]

And that's putting it politely,

I remember the riots like they were yesterday.

http://news.bbc.co.u...rds_gray511.jpg

So do I,it was the beginning of the end for her.

[Mr Right Wing]

She was the reason - she deregulated the financial services with inevitable consequences. She divested the country of a maunfacturing base with inevitable consequences. She did these things - no one else. She would have caused a civil war if her own party hadn't chucked her out.

Hardly a grand resuma.

Br Cornelius

The more of your comments I read the more I come to believe you're a coal miner lol

[Mr Right Wing]

So "we can buy anything we need cheap from China" was a sound policy to encourage for the long term health of the country? Certainly the Unions needed taking in hand, but detsroying entire industries in order to do so really was cutting off the long term nose to spite the face, I feel.

For those who dont know Maggies government inherited a failing economy when she first got elected and took measures to reform it.

Many areas of our mining, steel and heavy manufacturing industry only existed because of trade barriers making imports more costly. They had all been made vastly inefficent and expensive by unions and werent up to the job of competing on equal ground with foreign corporations. She privitised them and took us into the EU. Those industries which refused to adapt quite rightfully went bust.

The winner was the consumer as the cost of things was reduced although it made all the socialists hate her guts. If she hadnt done it then we would have gone bust.

Edited April 8, 2013 by Giant Killer B