Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies

[Bavarian Raven]

It's ironic, Thatcher was before my time, but the more i read up about her and what she did/accomplished, the more I wish we had more politicians like her. It seems that she stood up for her values despite what her fellow politicians wanted and for that I'd respect her.

[Guest]

It's ironic, Thatcher was before my time, but the more i read up about her and what she did/accomplished, the more I wish we had more politicians like her. It seems that she stood up for her values despite what her fellow politicians wanted and for that I'd respect her.

A politician should reflect the value of her electorate and look after their interests. She did neither.

Convictions are only good when they are the right one's - otherwise Hitler would have been the best politician in history.

Br Cornelius

[Setton]

A politician should reflect the value of her electorate and look after their interests.

And yet people kept voting her in. So obviously she was representing the values of the majority just not the louder minority.

[TSS]

A politician should reflect the value of her electorate and look after their interests. She did neither.

What politician ever achieved that?

[Silver Surfer]

[Mr Right Wing]

What politician ever achieved that?

Hitler did lol

[Space Commander Travis]

It's ironic, Thatcher was before my time, but the more i read up about her and what she did/accomplished, the more I wish we had more politicians like her. It seems that she stood up for her values despite what her fellow politicians wanted and for that I'd respect her.

The most dangerous thing in the world is a Politician that stands up for their values- or indeed has Values in the first place. The world is not such a simple, black and white place, I don't think, that having rigid and unwavering principles are anything but a liability. That's why I'm amused when I see people attacking Politicians fior "flip flopping" and changing their views about things, as if it's a virtue to stick rigidly to one idea and it's not a virtue to be able to adapt to changing circumstances.

[Space Commander Travis]

Why, incidentally, has she been awarded a ceremonial funeral with military honours? What did she have to do with the military apart from winning the Cold War and whupping the Argies?

(Note how everyone forgets now that the Argies only invaded the falklands in the first place because one of the first actions of her government, as it always is with Conservative governements whatever they may claim about being "strong on defence", was to announce big defence cuts (among them was to sell the Invincible, which soon came in rather handy, to Australia). Really, Galtieri saved her from her own incompetence in so many ways; if it hadn't been for him she'd have been relegated to the one-term wonder drawer like Callaghan and Major.)

[Frank Merton]

I would have no problem endorsing free market laissez-faire economics where you get what you make and keep it and spend it as you like, but for one little problem: people are so goddam greedy.

[ExpandMyMind]

What politician ever achieved that?

Over a dozen South American and South East Asian leaders (before they were overthrown by the U.S...).

[TSS]

Over a dozen South American and South East Asian leaders (before they were overthrown by the U.S...).

I don't believe that - as I don't see a single system out there that can work for the benefit of all the electorate. I can't think of any system that isn't either stifling someone for the overall good of others, or forgetting some to concentrate on others.

[ExpandMyMind]

I don't believe that - as I don't see a single system out there that can work for the benefit of all the electorate. I can't think of any system that isn't either stifling someone for the overall good of others, or forgetting some to concentrate on others.

In a country high in poverty (the countries I was referring to), the socialism introduced to benefit the average man at the expense of big business actually does result in politicians having huge, widespread popularity. No, you will never please all people in any society, but some of the most popular social revolutions in third world and developing countries has resulted in popularity for politicians and parties that is unheard of in countries like Britain and the U.S., who are split by the usual silly party politics. When most people are poor (nearly all people), then a system designed to empower such people is inherently popular.

[Space Commander Travis]

In a country high in poverty (the countries I was referring to), the socialism introduced to benefit the average man at the expense of big business actually does result in politicians having huge, widespread popularity. No, you will never please all people in any society, but some of the most popular social revolutions in third world and developing countries has resulted in popularity for politicians and parties that is unheard of in countries like Britain and the U.S., who are split by the usual silly party politics. When most people are poor (nearly all people), then a system designed to empower such people is inherently popular.

On that subject, it's amusing to see how reviled Hugo Chavez was, particularly by the U.S., for being a Deranged and Mad Dictator, and then remember how friendly the beloved Lady was with Augusto Pinochet, who was, of course, a man with whom we could do business.

Sticking to your principles of standing up against Evil Tyrants there, eh, Lady.

[itsnotoutthere]

On that subject, it's amusing to see how reviled Hugo Chavez was, particularly by the U.S., for being a Deranged and Mad Dictator, and then remember how friendly the beloved Lady was with Augusto Pinochet, who was, of course, a man with whom we could do business.

Sticking to your principles of standing up against Evil Tyrants there, eh, Lady.

Yes, and who can forget Tony Blairs desert love-in with Gadafi a few years back.

[Space Commander Travis]

Yes, and who can forget Tony Blairs desert love-in with Gadafi a few years back.

Indeed, I don't know if the man is delivering a eulogy over the great woman, but the two of them had very much in common, politically and ethically.

[stevewinn]

In a country high in poverty (the countries I was referring to), the socialism introduced to benefit the average man at the expense of big business actually does result in politicians having huge, widespread popularity. No, you will never please all people in any society, but some of the most popular social revolutions in third world and developing countries has resulted in popularity for politicians and parties that is unheard of in countries like Britain and the U.S., who are split by the usual silly party politics. When most people are poor (nearly all people), then a system designed to empower such people is inherently popular.

The name of the system you are looking for is called Communism. Marxist.

[monk 56]

Perhaps i'm old school, but i think if you can't say something nice in the week that any die, then don't say anything at all, i don't think song below helps her family who are not connected to her political career, so for that reason i feel it was in bad taste!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLKtNDxqcD0

[monk 56]

I know that Thatcher brings up emotion one way or another, but to call her a witch is comical in English political origins, many of the early members of The Fabian Society, the forerunner of the U.K Labour Party were associated with the hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and Helena Blavatsky of the Theosophical society fame, they all went to dinner with each other and discussed politics in one of the few vegetarian restuarants in London plus with Gandhi in around 1888, i'm not knocking, but is funny with who is calling Thatcher a witch ha ha!

[monk 56]

I'm neutral, but no doubt thatcherites will be waiting for Lord Mandelson's demise who was called the Prince of Darkness, perhaps an Alice Cooper song would be jazzed up to fit ha ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OmtHI4htcE