DONTEATUS Posted May 14, 2013 #176 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Me too psyche101 ! Me too ! $$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsecretresearch Posted May 15, 2013 #177 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Did you know the distance detection radar antenna disc was actually inspired by a flying saucer sighting in the air? The son of the inventor had a blog detialing his father's UFO sighting while flying a plane and it helped him come up with the idea. Airplane with a new distance detection radar antenna disc takes off from runway Massachusetts circa 1958-MGM PICTURES, UNIVERSAL-INTERNATIONAL NEWSREEL, USA, filmed in 1958 Stock Footage Clip Edited May 15, 2013 by topsecretresearch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 15, 2013 #178 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Thanks for the giggles, TSR. BTW, apparently you never actually did any research on the Willy Victor. Too bad although I can understand that reality would be too much for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 15, 2013 #179 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Did you know the distance detection radar antenna disc was actually inspired by a flying saucer sighting in the air? You are joking, right? You know that all radars are distance detection devices, right? It kinda derives from the acronym (RAdio Detection And Ranging). The son of the inventor had a blog detialing his father's UFO sighting while flying a plane and it helped him come up with the idea. The inventor of what? Of RADAR? Airplane with a new distance detection radar antenna disc takes off from runway Massachusetts circa 1958-MGM PICTURES, UNIVERSAL-INTERNATIONAL NEWSREEL, USA, filmed in 1958 Stock Footage Clip Sigh. If you knew even the slightest about RADAR you would never post such. What we see here is merely an early version of AWACS (Early warning and control system). It is a means to get a larger RADAR on an airborne platform and the shape is given by aerodynamics. Please do educate yourself rather than embarrassing yourself. Cheers, Badeskov Edited May 15, 2013 by badeskov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted May 15, 2013 #180 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Whats that word Im looking for ? Hum ? Dooh !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 15, 2013 #181 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Sigh. If you knew even the slightest about RADAR you would never post such. What we see here is merely an early version of AWACS (Early warning and control system). It is a means to get a larger RADAR on an airborne platform and the shape is given by aerodynamics. Please do educate yourself rather than embarrassing yourself. Yep. We called 'em Willy Victors in the Navy. (The E1 variant of the S2F were called Willy Fudds.) Got to operate with one a couple times aboard the Hornet. Lotsa fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsecretresearch Posted May 15, 2013 #182 Share Posted May 15, 2013 You are joking, right? You know that all radars are distance detection devices, right? It kinda derives from the acronym (RAdio Detection And Ranging). The inventor of what? Of RADAR? Sigh. If you knew even the slightest about RADAR you would never post such. What we see here is merely an early version of AWACS (Early warning and control system). It is a means to get a larger RADAR on an airborne platform and the shape is given by aerodynamics. Please do educate yourself rather than embarrassing yourself. Cheers, Badeskov I read the article a long time ago so I didn't know the proper term but it related to the disc that you see ontop of the plane. You haven't specified who came up with the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 15, 2013 #183 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I read the article a long time ago so I didn't know the proper term but it related to the disc that you see ontop of the plane. You haven't specified who came up with the design. A team of engineers did. Apparently you haven't a clue how aircraft are designed either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2F Posted May 15, 2013 #184 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yep. We called 'em Willy Victors in the Navy. (The E1 variant of the S2F were called Willy Fudds.) Got to operate with one a couple times aboard the Hornet. Lotsa fun! Who called me a Willy Fudd?!?! I'm not sure but them sounds like fighting words! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 15, 2013 #185 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I read the article a long time ago so I didn't know the proper term but it related to the disc that you see ontop of the plane. You haven't specified who came up with the design. Bill Skills and his engineering team at Northrop-Grumman. Cheers, Badeskov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted May 15, 2013 #186 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Bill Skills and his engineering team at Northrop-Grumman. Cheers, Badeskov Northrup Grumman claiming the credit is rather like Boeing claiming ro have designed the DC-3 (which I saw in one of their promotional blurbs they tried to do once. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 15, 2013 #187 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Who called me a Willy Fudd?!?! I'm not sure but them sounds like fighting words! Oh, they were considering the Cold War was in full swing. But don't worry, it's an honorable name with an honorable record. :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 15, 2013 #188 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Northrup Grumman claiming the credit is rather like Boeing claiming ro have designed the DC-3 (which I saw in one of their promotional blurbs they tried to do once. ) With all the mergers et al, it's kind of difficult for anyone to not lay claim to some of the older developments. Even with a scorecard, it's tough to tell who's who anymore. Anyway, Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 so can technically claim the DC-3 since it's part of what Douglas brought to the overall corporate line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsecretresearch Posted May 15, 2013 #189 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I can no longer find the link but it was awhile ago. The gist was a group of pilots during the late 1940s had a disc sighting inside the cockpit. The inventor of the disc looking radar system, AWACs was one of the pilots. I think it mentioned a defense cobtractor like Northorp or Boeing and Seattle and there was a competition but can't be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 16, 2013 #190 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I can no longer find the link but it was awhile ago. The gist was a group of pilots during the late 1940s had a disc sighting inside the cockpit. The inventor of the disc looking radar system, AWACs was one of the pilots. I think it mentioned a defense cobtractor like Northorp or Boeing and Seattle and there was a competition but can't be sure. I can't really speak to the past of the inventor, but for the AWACS there indeed was a competition. The specs required of the RADAR were given and that dictated the size of the RADAR and it was pretty obvious that it had to be external to the aircraft and rotating. That in turn entailed that the RADAR had to be encased and aerodynamics dictated the shape of the encasing. There was no artistic license based on inspiration from elsewhere in that whatsoever, it was purely dictated by hard physics. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 16, 2013 #191 Share Posted May 16, 2013 With all the mergers et al, it's kind of difficult for anyone to not lay claim to some of the older developments. Even with a scorecard, it's tough to tell who's who anymore. Anyway, Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas in 1997 so can technically claim the DC-3 since it's part of what Douglas brought to the overall corporate line. Indeed. Now it is all intertwined due to acquisitions, mergers, division sell-offs etc. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 21, 2013 #192 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I can no longer find the link but it was awhile ago. The gist was a group of pilots during the late 1940s had a disc sighting inside the cockpit. Huh? There was a disk in the cockpit? Bet it was a saucer one of the stews left behind after bringing them their coffee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsecretresearch Posted May 21, 2013 #193 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I can't really speak to the past of the inventor, Then why automatically dismiss the story? This was on a person's blog. It wasn't a silly conspiracy web site or something like that. I'm just going from memory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 21, 2013 #194 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Then why automatically dismiss the story? This was on a person's blog. It wasn't a silly conspiracy web site or something like that. I'm just going from memory though. Because you are going from memory and I have been unable to find anything indicating that was actually the case. Besides that, it is really obvious that the shape of the radar dome is dictated by physics to yield an airworthy and efficient airframe. Cheers, Badeskov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 21, 2013 #195 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Then why automatically dismiss the story? This was on a person's blog. It wasn't a silly conspiracy web site or something like that. I'm just going from memory though. TSR, I think you're unaware of something that's pretty much general knowledge here on UM. Bade & I as well as a few others are paid disinformation specialists. It's our job to deny any alien presence or involvement as well as any conspiracy theories that crop up. An alien craft could land on the White House lawn (which did happen although it was toward the rear) and we'd deny its happening. It's what we do and we do it with immense pleasure. We know things you can't possibly imagine and, to be honest, know how much of a giggle your site really is. Nearly every "event" listed was and is part of the wide trail of disinformation created to discredit the UFO community by others who are in the same business. Through this, we created the entire Believer community and count on their antics to keep the reality secret. And guess what. It's working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 21, 2013 #196 Share Posted May 21, 2013 TSR, I think you're unaware of something that's pretty much general knowledge here on UM. Bade & I as well as a few others are paid disinformation specialists. It's our job to deny any alien presence or involvement as well as any conspiracy theories that crop up. An alien craft could land on the White House lawn (which did happen although it was toward the rear) and we'd deny its happening. It's what we do and we do it with immense pleasure. We know things you can't possibly imagine and, to be honest, know how much of a giggle your site really is. Nearly every "event" listed was and is part of the wide trail of disinformation created to discredit the UFO community by others who are in the same business. Through this, we created the entire Believer community and count on their antics to keep the reality secret. And guess what. It's working. Kludge, old buddy, I think we have been over this a couple of times before, but you really need to read the memos and keep this little secret quiet.....and you forgot the ET event on the Red Square in Moscow, which our (back then Soviet) counterparts quite elegantly turned into a German in a propeller plane. Those guys have always excelled in obfuscation. Cheers, Badeskov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kludge808 Posted May 21, 2013 #197 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Kludge, old buddy, I think we have been over this a couple of times before, but you really need to read the memos and keep this little secret quiet.....and you forgot the ET event on the Red Square in Moscow, which our (back then Soviet) counterparts quite elegantly turned into a German in a propeller plane. Those guys have always excelled in obfuscation. Cheers, Badeskov True but the folks here figured us out anyway. I do have to give the Russians credit, though. That had to be one of the best jobs ever. This more recent one with the "meteor" wasn't bad either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted May 21, 2013 #198 Share Posted May 21, 2013 True but the folks here figured us out anyway. I do have to give the Russians credit, though. That had to be one of the best jobs ever. This more recent one with the "meteor" wasn't bad either. True, they have. That said, the Russians have always been good at such. Credit should be given where credit is due... Cheers, Badeskov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted May 21, 2013 #199 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Kludge, old buddy, I think we have been over this a couple of times before, but you really need to read the memos and keep this little secret quiet.....and you forgot the ET event on the Red Square in Moscow, which our (back then Soviet) counterparts quite elegantly turned into a German in a propeller plane. Those guys have always excelled in obfuscation. Cheers, Badeskov I remember that like it was last week,... that was awesome. Mathias Rust, the pilot, was only a teenager at the time. The balls on that guy!! Im not so sure that all the Comrades felt the same way. Im sure a couple of them got sent to less important jobs after that blunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTEATUS Posted May 21, 2013 #200 Share Posted May 21, 2013 It was the Vodka talking ! ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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