tapirmusic Posted May 2, 2013 #1 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The University of Wyoming Police Department issued a citation to Lanker-Simons for “interference” for “false statements she made to the UW Police Department,” according to a UW statement referred to by Laramie Boomerang Online. “Subject admitted to making a controversial post on UW Crushes webpage and then lied about not doing it,” according to the citation. The University of Wyoming also confirmed a statement that the police had “”obtained substantial evidence verifying that the offending Facebook post came from Lanker-Simons’ computer, while the computer was in her possession.” According to a Facebook page that apparently belongs to Lanker-Simons she is a member of the University of Wyoming Gender & Women’s Studies group as well as the school’s chapter of The Nonviolent Communist. The message that supposedly came from a conservative, until the police discovered that a well-known female liberal blogger and radio host at the University of Wyoming (UW), Meg Lanker-Simons, fabricated the message, then used it to have a whole conversation with herself, is below: “I want to hate **** Meg Lanker-Simons so hard. That chick that runs her liberal mouth all the time and doesn’t care who knows it. I think its hot and it makes me angry. One night with me and shes gonna be a good Republican b****.” this reminds me of something else... Lesbian who carved cross into own chest in fake hate crime gets seven days in jail, probation http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/lesbian-who-carved-cross-into-own-chest-in-fake-hate-crime-gets-seven-days and this: Democratic Party HQ in Denver vandalized...by A DEMOCRAT! http://lagniappeslair.blogspot.com/2009/08/democratic-party-hq-in-denver.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted May 2, 2013 #2 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Idiocy is not owned by one side or the other, both sides have more than their share of jerkwads. But, IMHO, constantly pointing your finger at one side and having no real balance is not a symptom of a critical thinker. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nathan DiYorio Posted May 2, 2013 #3 Share Posted May 2, 2013 And this is why nobody takes extremists seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted May 2, 2013 #4 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Anyone that lies about rape deserves to be arrested themselves and go to jail. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted May 2, 2013 #5 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Anyone that lies about rape deserves to be arrested themselves and go to jail. Absolutely! That's just sick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #6 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Another chance for me to talk about the concept of pious fraud. People seem to have an intense desire to have others think as they do, to the extent that they readily justify dishonesty to achieve it. Even books in the Bible are known to be frauds (not actually written by who they are claimed by) and passages have been added to Holy Scripture and other ancient sources fraudulently. Nowadays people make no end of claims out of thin air, and load them with little details to add credibility; often they even come to believe in the truth of these tales themselves. Immense amounts of time and money are spent creating some of these frauds. The sad thing is that the people who do these things are good people who want good for others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiskatonicGrad Posted May 2, 2013 #7 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Another chance for me to talk about the concept of pious fraud. People seem to have an intense desire to have others think as they do, to the extent that they readily justify dishonesty to achieve it. Even books in the Bible are known to be frauds (not actually written by who they are claimed by) and passages have been added to Holy Scripture and other ancient sources fraudulently. Nowadays people make no end of claims out of thin air, and load them with little details to add credibility; often they even come to believe in the truth of these tales themselves. Immense amounts of time and money are spent creating some of these frauds. The sad thing is that the people who do these things are good people who want good for others. I'm sorry are looking at the same OP? just kidding. given the ratings of most liberal radio programs I guess she had to do something to be heard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #8 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I think the problem liberal radio has in the States with ratings is that its natural audience is urban and busy doing other things while the conservative audience is out in the country with not all that much else to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelight Posted May 2, 2013 #9 Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) Another chance for me to talk about the concept of pious fraud. People seem to have an intense desire to have others think as they do, to the extent that they readily justify dishonesty to achieve it. Even books in the Bible are known to be frauds (not actually written by who they are claimed by) and passages have been added to Holy Scripture and other ancient sources fraudulently. Nowadays people make no end of claims out of thin air, and load them with little details to add credibility; often they even come to believe in the truth of these tales themselves. Immense amounts of time and money are spent creating some of these frauds. The sad thing is that the people who do these things are good people who want good for others. You had me until you said they were good people trying to do good. Fraud is not to be confused with compassion. Edited May 2, 2013 by whitelight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #10 Share Posted May 2, 2013 You had me until you said they were good people trying to do good. Fraud is not to be confused with compassion. That is too absolutist for my taste. We need to be aware ("wise") of people's failings but also compassionate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted May 2, 2013 #11 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I think the problem liberal radio has in the States with ratings is that its natural audience is urban and busy doing other things while the conservative audience is out in the country with not all that much else to do. Huh? Do you mean the people who have working farms, yet still cannot earn enough money to make ends meet and also have to work a full time job? Cities have some of the most expensive real estate where the richest, most spoiled people live. Except, of course, for the slum areas that are left to the government housing projects. They pay for the maintenance without any physical effort on their part at all. You won't find them wasting their Sundays outside mowing, raking and weed eating theirs lawns or trimming the hedge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #12 Share Posted May 2, 2013 You need to tune your sarcasm detector. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted May 2, 2013 #13 Share Posted May 2, 2013 You need to tune your sarcasm detector. Well. you could give us a hint...I never know with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelight Posted May 2, 2013 #14 Share Posted May 2, 2013 That is too absolutist for my taste. We need to be aware ("wise") of people's failings but also compassionate. Absolutist? Really? Now, define to the people reading this why you describe me an "absolutist" and yourself as "wise". I don't play your stupid simple games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #15 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Saying any "sin" is always bad is moral absolutism, which never works except for fanatics (there are always exceptions to any moral rule -- I can think of times I might play a fraud -- such as in combat to fool the enemy). The "wise" part is not wisdom in the usual sense but the "wise" sense with a wink. I hope that will help get you off your horse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted May 2, 2013 #16 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Dude pipe down. You sound like a liberal blogger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #17 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Some of us sometimes have other business. I like the word "sin." It has a nice ring to it, full of the devil and pulpits and repelling demons. I would challenge you to find something "bad" that can't have a good side and something "good" that can't have a bad side. I'm not a moral relativist -- I think right and wrong are objective realities -- but the list of sins and virtues that we are usually fed is far too simplistic. Honesty is an example. There are plenty of times when it would be seriously wrong to tell the truth if its going to hurt someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted May 2, 2013 #18 Share Posted May 2, 2013 According to a Facebook page that apparently belongs to Lanker-Simons she is a member of the University of Wyoming Gender & Women’s Studies group as well as the school’s chapter of The Nonviolent Communist. Anyways, she sounds like a great girl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted May 2, 2013 #19 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Some of us sometimes have other business. I like the word "sin." It has a nice ring to it, full of the devil and pulpits and repelling demons. I would challenge you to find something "bad" that can't have a good side and something "good" that can't have a bad side. I'm not a moral relativist -- I think right and wrong are objective realities -- but the list of sins and virtues that we are usually fed is far too simplistic. Honesty is an example. There are plenty of times when it would be seriously wrong to tell the truth if its going to hurt someone. Is that like saying a father avenging the death of his son by killing the killer would be a case of finding good in something bad like murder? Or less criminal, a father killing an intruder in his own house that is attacking his family would be a case of finding good in something bad like murder? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #20 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Wether or not to kill Hitler when one has the chance always makes a good example for murder. This is actually a very hard matter and I think why Jesus substituted "Love" for the Law, or why the Buddha preached "Compassion" and "the Middle Way." I like that you edit the posts and distort the exchange, It shows you have no morals, Please demonstrate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted May 2, 2013 #21 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Good luck with whitelight Frank. I'm off to bed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #22 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Thanks; its morning here so I have all day, although the way my computer is acting I think I may have to reboot soon. I'm actually rather puzzled by his reaction so I will have to hang around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelight Posted May 2, 2013 #23 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Wether or not to kill Hitler when one has the chance always makes a good example for murder. This is actually a very hard matter and I think why Jesus substituted "Love" for the Law, or why the Buddha preached "Compassion" and "the Middle Way." Please demonstrate. What the hell are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted May 2, 2013 #24 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The question as I see it is how do we determine right from wrong. It started out with my pointing out that we need to be cognizant of the fact of pious fraud -- a fraud done with no visible motive except to convert or persuade. Then I for some reason I forget mentioned that not all frauds are necessarily "sins" (when I use that word it is tongue-in-cheek -- what I really mean is "bad." The example was pulling a fraud in combat in order to fool the enemy. One might point out that God had the Israelites pull frauds of this sort several times. The problem as I see it is "moral absolutism," wherein we take it on ourselves to judge the moral standards of others. I think we can judge an individual act based on the harm or good it does, but not a person. For ourselves we constantly need to make moral judgments, and I think the "rules" (such as, say, The Ten Commandments), while perhaps well meaning simplify our moral task too much. I would suggest you pick up a good summary of Kant (I wouldn't try reading him going in without first a commentary) to see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nathan DiYorio Posted May 2, 2013 #25 Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) Frank, pretty sure Whitelight's a troll. You're not going to get anywhere with him. As far as judging acts as opposed to judging the people who commit them, when all I have to go on is what a person has done that's what they're going to be judged by. I agree in practicing tolerance and the middle road, but if I always judged acts as isolated from the people who performed them, I probably wouldn't be here posting. Edited May 2, 2013 by Nathan DiYorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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