Xnibiru Posted May 15, 2013 #1 Share Posted May 15, 2013 In recent weeks we have seen a resurfacing of this extremely unique artifact, the Gabriel Stone, that was discovered around the year 2008. The stone is said to contain the prophecy of the death and resurrection of the Jewish Messiah, written by the Angel Gabriel who appeared to Mary and Joseph and that this stone was written at the birth of Christ ................... Click the link to read full story: http://b4in.info/i4pg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 15, 2013 #2 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Just finished watching the first video, interesting stuff if true. So Jesus is supposed to have copied the life and ideas of an earlier Messiah, Simon, who got killed just before Jesus' birth. And that the Messianic message of Jesus was not as UNJewish as was commonly thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 15, 2013 #3 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Gabriel's Revelation (also named Hazon Gabriel the Vision of Gabriel) or the Jeselsohn Stone, is a three-foot-tall (one meter) stone tablet with 87 lines of Hebrew text written in ink, containing a collection of short prophecies written in the first person and dated to the late 1st century BCE. One of the stories allegedly tells of a man who was killed by the Romans and resurrected in three days. It is a tablet described as a "Dead Sea scroll in stone". - The finding has caused controversy among scholars. Israel Knohl, who is an expert in Talmudic and biblical language at Jerusalem's Hebrew University reads the inscription as a command from the angel Gabriel "to rise from the dead within three days". He takes this command to be directed at a 1st century Jewish rebel called Simon, who was killed by the Romans in 4 BCE. In Knohl's view the finding "calls for a complete reassessment of all previous scholarship on the subject of messianism, Jewish and Christian alike". - Challenging Knohl's "Two Messiahs" theory, Seidner noted that, "Knohl’s reliance upon what he calls, the 'Glorification Hymn,' in support of a first Messiah’s relationship with King Herod, failed in its carbon-14 testing. It predates Herod’s ascendency to the throne by at least twelve years and as much as one hundred and fifty six." However, he does agree with Knohl's interpretation of the inscription,"to rise from the dead within three days."On the other hand, Ben Witherington, an Early Christianity expert at Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore Kentucky, claims that a word interpreted as "rise" could just as easily be taken to mean "show up". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel%27s_Revelation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 15, 2013 #4 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) He called himself the King of the Jews, likely considered to be a Messiah. Just around Passover, the Romans killed him and crucified many of his followers outside Jerusalem. But his name was not Jesus... it was Simon, a self-proclaimed Messiah who died four years before Christ was born. Now, new analysis of a three-foot-tall stone tablet from the first century B.C., may speak of an early Messiah and his resurrection. We'll go to Israel to assess this unique and mysterious artifact, including comprehensive review of the script and content by a Dead Sea Scroll expert. Then, from Jerusalem to Jericho, we'll investigate key archeological ruins that could help prove Simon was indeed real. http://natgeotv.com/...rst-jesus/about [media=] [/media]. Edited May 15, 2013 by Abramelin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 15, 2013 #5 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Simon of Peraea or Simon son of Joseph was a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled and was killed by the Romans in 4 BC. He has been identified as the messiah of Gabriel's Revelation. He is mentioned by Flavius Josephus. According to Josephus: "There was also Simon, who had been a slave of king Herod, but in other respects a comely person, of a tall and robust body; he was one that was much superior to others of his order, and had had great things committed to his care. This man was elevated at the disorderly state of things, and was so bold as to put a diadem on his head, while a certain number of the people stood by him, and by them he was declared to be a king, and he thought himself more worthy of that dignity than any one else." "He burnt down the royal palace at Jericho, and plundered what was left in it. He also set fire to many other of the king's houses in several places of the country, utterly destroyed them, and permitted those that were with him to take what was left in them for a prey. He would have done greater things, but care was taken to repress him immediately. [The commander of Herod's infantry] Gratus joined himself to some Roman soldiers, took the forces he had with him, and met Simon. And after a great and a long fight, no small part of those that had come from Peraea (a disordered body of men, fighting rather in a bold than in a skillful manner) were destroyed. Although Simon had saved himself by flying away through a certain valley, Gratus overtook him, and cut off his head." http://en.wikipedia....Simon_of_Peraea There's a difference between being crucified and being decapitated. It were his followers, not Simon himself, who were crucified. . Edited May 15, 2013 by Abramelin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 16, 2013 #6 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Der vergessene Messias http://www.qumran.org/homes/route66/knohl.html Google translation: http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qumran.org%2Fhomes%2Froute66%2Fknohl.html Critics: Knohl's Suffering Messiah by Douglas Mangum http://bibliahebraica.blogspot.nl/2008/08/knohl-suffering-messiah.html My questions about the Apocalypse of Gabriel by April Deconinck http://forbiddengospels.blogspot.nl/2008/08/my-questions-about-apocalypse-of.html Index of links on the Apocalypse of Gabriel by April Deconinck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted May 16, 2013 #7 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Haven't looked at all of the material but it does look like a combination of 'collected' and 'chosen' material to fill up the pages of the NT doesn't it ? Bits and parts of John here and there and JC to add up a finale ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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