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Mr. Sister Elle Sade Ai Ni

Spiral Dynamics: What is beyond Turquoise?

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  • Summary: Archaic-instinctive—survivalistic/automatic/reflexological
  • Time of origin: c. 100,000 BC
  • Description: "Express self to meet imperative physiological needs through instincts of Homo sapiens."


  • Summary: Animistic-tribalistic magical-animistic Tribal order
  • Time of origin: 50,000 BC
  • Description: "Sacrifice to the ways of the elders and customs as one subsumed in group." This is the level of traditional cultures.


  • Summary: Egocentric-exploitive power gods/dominionist
  • Time of origin: 7000 BC
  • Description: "Express self (impulsively) for what self desires without guilt and to avoid shame." Expressed by the mentality of street gangs, Vikings, etc.


  • Summary: Absolutistic-obedience mythic order—purposeful/authoritarian
  • Time of origin: c. 3000 BC
  • Description: "Sacrifice self for reward to come through obedience to rightful authority in purposeful Way." Embodied by fundamentalist religions.


  • Summary: Multiplistic-achievist scientific/strategic
  • Time of origin: c. 1000 AD on (as early as 600 AD according to Graves and Calhoun)
  • Description: "Express self (calculatedly) to reach goals and objectives without rousing the ire of important others." Expressed in the Scientific Revolution and the Industrial Revolution.


  • Summary: Relativistic-personalistic—communitarian/egalitarian
  • Time of origin: From 1850 on (surged in early 20th century)
  • Description: "Sacrifice self-interest now in order to gain acceptance and group harmony." Expressed in 1960s pluralism and systems theory.


  • Summary: Systemic-integrative
  • Time of origin: 1950s
  • Description: "Express self not for what self desires, but to avoid harm to others so that all life, not just own life, will benefit."


  • Summary: Holistic
  • Time of origin: 1970s
  • Description: An integrative system which combines an organism's necessary self-interest with the interests of the communities in which it participates. The theory is still forming.

Spiral Dynamics

To me there are still reds around. The culture wars seem to be between blues and oranges.

Where are the greens?

A few yellow and even less turquoise are here among us.

That is when it comes to people.

My society seems to be divided mainly between blues and oranges.

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I think you dont notice the turquoise so easily because it's not a hip thing to be, I think it has a reputation of being all cooky scetchy new agism when it's just another point of view. I think it's also a very old way of seeing life, but was never practised by many who were both vocal and devoted about it, until this day perhaps. At least that's the picture I've gotten from my history lessons.

My work jacket being blue describes well the blueness of this kind we have in work-life. To say you'd be free of that is to say you didn't need (any more) money in this world.

Apart from taking part to family traditions, I'm pretty purple actually, though there's a lot of colors in me. Blue is not so much a voluntary choise but something I've submitted to like a lot of us.

What color would an isolationist be? Black?

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