DC09 Posted October 15, 2004 #1 Share Posted October 15, 2004 WASHINGTON - When asked who they would trust as commander in chief, people in military service and their families chose President Bush over Sen. John Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, by almost a 3-to-1 margin. Bush, who served in the Texas Air National Guard, was more trusted by 69 percent while 24 percent said they trusted Kerry more, according to the National Annenberg Election Survey released Friday. Among all Americans, Bush has a more narrow advantage on trust to be commander in chief, 50-41. The military sample was far more likely to be Republican than Democratic, which could help explain the more favorable view of the president. Four in 10, 43 percent, of the military sample said they were Republicans, while 19 percent said Democrats and 27 percent independents. Those in the military and their families have a more favorable view of Bush than Americans generally, and they take a more optimistic view about Iraq, the economy and the nation's direction. A majority in the military sample, 64 percent, said the country is on the right track. Among Americans generally, 55 percent said the country is headed in the wrong direction. The National Annenberg Election Survey found that seven in 10, 69 percent, had a favorable view of Bush. Only three in 10, 29 percent, had a favorable view of Kerry. The Annenberg poll, which does not report head-to-head preferences, did not ask the military respondents who they support for president. The report cited a 1948 law that prohibits polling members of the military about their voting intent. The poll of 655 in the active military and their families was taken Sept. 22-Oct. 5 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. Their answers were compared to those of 2,436 adults surveyed between Sept. 7-Oct. 3 with a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points. Article My family and I sure as hell trust Bush with military more than Kerry. On everything, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted October 15, 2004 #2 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Poll: Fluffybunny doesn't trust either of them farther than he can throw them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velikovsky Posted October 16, 2004 #3 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I noticed that back in 2000 when almost everyone I worked with supported Nasty Girl over Gore. I was actually surprised considering their respective services in the military. But the military tends to be mostly republican. For me registered republican, disabled vet, combat arms, and I'll be voting democrat. I've just always had a bad feeling about NG, never trusted the man. Supported his father but not him. SOLAMF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted October 16, 2004 #4 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Poll: Fluffybunny doesn't trust either of them farther than he can throw them. what exactly does that mean? you don't trust Bush and Kerry a meter? How far would you be required to throw them to have 100% trust? does that mean all you have to do is work out in order to trust them a little more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted October 16, 2004 #5 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Poll: Fluffybunny doesn't trust either of them farther than he can throw them. what exactly does that mean? you don't trust Bush and Kerry a meter? How far would you be required to throw them to have 100% trust? does that mean all you have to do is work out in order to trust them a little more? 310447[/snapback] Perhaps if I was allowed to use a medieval catapult... Yeah, that would be nice... Perhaps I could launch both of them down to Australia and let you deal with the two nitwits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 16, 2004 #6 Share Posted October 16, 2004 LOL I do feel sorry for americans that George Bush And Jon Kerry are the two men slugging it out. Seriously american politics is facing a drought of talented intelligent politicians akin to scotlands drought of talented intelligent footballers. And people its bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 16, 2004 #7 Share Posted October 16, 2004 And as Bill Shankly said "Football isnt life and death.......its much more serious than that " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caayn Posted October 16, 2004 #8 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Hey, no one polled me or my wife or the majority of my friends it seems. The truth of the matter is that most of the military members who support Bush have this false belief that if any Democrat is elected, our pay will magically drop. They will blindly elect some Republican nitwit for this reason. No second thoughts, just pull the lever! Bleh, sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted October 17, 2004 #9 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Perhaps if I was allowed to use a medieval catapult... Yeah, that would be nice... Perhaps I could launch both of them down to Australia and let you deal with the two nitwits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillcrazy Posted October 21, 2004 #10 Share Posted October 21, 2004 But the military tends to be mostly republican. Not really Democrats David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72 Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, etc Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy Wesley Clark: U.S. Army 1966-2000, Vietnam, silver star, purple heart Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/bronze stars, Vietnam Bill Clinton: Did not serve Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72 Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, bronze star John Edwards: Did not serve Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71 John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs; Air Medal w/18 Clusters Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam as journalist Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74 Howell Heflin: Silver star Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; bronze star Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53 Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; silver/bronze stars, purple hearts Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII George McGovern: Silver star & DFC during WWII Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953 Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver star, etc Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; bronze star, Korea Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91 Chuck Robb: U.S. Marine Corps, 1961-70, Vietnam Pete stark: Air Force 1955-57 Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart Republicans Spencer Abraham: Did not serve Eliot Abrams: Did not serve Richard Armitage: U.S. Navy, three tours in Vietnam John Ashcroft: Did not serve Roy Blunt: Did not serve Michael Bloomberg: Did not serve George H.W. Bush: Youngest Navy pilot in WW II; awarded DFC George W. Bush: Texas Air Nat. Guard; didn't take physical; suspended from flying Jeb Bush: Did not serve Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve. Attacked Cleland's patriotism Dick Cheney: Did not serve Christopher Cox: Did not serve Tom DeLay: Did not serve Bob Dole: Army in WWII, bronze star, two purple hearts Bob Dornan: Enlisted after fighting was over in Korea John Engler: Did not serve Douglas Feith: Did not serve Gerald Ford: Lt. Commander, Navy in WWII Bill Frist: Did not serve Newt Gingrich: Did not serve Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer Phil Gramm: Did not serve Chuck Hagel: Served in Vietnam, two bronze stars and purple heart Dennis Hastert: Did not serve Tim Hutchison: Did not serve Jack Kemp: Did not serve. "Knee problem," continued in NFL for 8 years Jon Kyl: Did not serve Trent Lott: Did not serve Richard Lugar: Intelligence officer in Navy 1957-1960 John McCain: POW in Vietnam, Silver star, Legion of Merit, DFC, many more Mitch McConnell: Did not serve John McHugh: Did not serve George Pataki: Did not serve Richard Perle: Did not serve Colin Powell: 35 years in Army, 4-star general Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard Ronald Reagan: Served in WWII making movies Tom Ridge: U.S. Army in Vietnam, bronze star Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve Karl Rove: Did not serve Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor Rick Santorum: Did not serve Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base Richard Shelby: Did not serve JC Watts: Did not serve Vin Weber: Did not serve Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve Pundits, Preachers, and Judges Bill Bennett: Did not serve Wolf Blitzer: Did not serve Pat Buchanan: Did not serve William Buckley: U.S. Army in WWII Charlie Daniels: Did not serve Lou Dobbs: Did not serve Paul Gigot: Did not serve Sean Hannity: Did not serve Bill Kristol: Did not serve Jim Lehrer: U.S. Marine Corps Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve Chris Matthews: Did not serve Michael Medved: Did not serve Ted Nugent: Did not serve Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve Dan Rather: U.S. Army Reserve Ralph Reed: Did not serve Michael Savage: Did not serve Antonin Scalia: Did not serve Kenneth Starr: Did not serve Clarence Thomas: Did not serve John Wayne: Did not serve George Will: Did not serve Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted October 21, 2004 #11 Share Posted October 21, 2004 (edited) Poll: Fluffybunny doesn't trust either of them farther than he can throw them. 309239[/snapback] Poll: SilverCougar doesn't even want to risk screwing up her back trying to throw them. I honestly do not trust not like Bush... He down right scares me. Edit Funny... I don't see a single "Did not serve" in the democratic list... tons in the republicans... Well.. if you count the "preachers and judges" then yeah there are like... what 5? But still... the list of republicans is longer then democrates... Edited October 21, 2004 by SilverCougar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 21, 2004 #12 Share Posted October 21, 2004 George W. Bush: Texas Air Nat. Guard; didn't take physical; suspended from flying Oh i especially liked that record. HERO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 21, 2004 #13 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Maybe you ought to read the democrates list again Silvercougar. Bill Clinton and John Edwards didn't serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted October 21, 2004 #14 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Maybe you ought to read the democrates list again Silvercougar. Bill Clinton and John Edwards didn't serve. 318340[/snapback] Ok so that's 7... Wow... big difference... compaired to how many in the republican list? And Bush might as well get "did not serve" tacked on... he did go AWOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velikovsky Posted October 21, 2004 #15 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Actually he was gone for more than 31 days Bush is a deserter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted October 21, 2004 #16 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Oh please yourself I know quite a few teens that are carbon copies of thier parents. Just because you, and your friends, and whoever else did, doesn't make EVERY teen the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 22, 2004 #17 Share Posted October 22, 2004 who gives a flying whojagafluck about military records? Really why is america obssessed with having ex-soldiers in office, just cos someone was in the army doesnt mean they are automatically more fit to lead the country than a man who hasnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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