Decoding Neanderthals

[lightly]

Wow! Interesting j . That ^ says Neanderthal may have been around for 300,000 to 600,000 years! They may have developed extremely complex social lives while living so in harmony with nature that they left very little to "admire". ?¿?

[jmccr8]

This following link discusses Homo erectus and their adaptation to colder climates.

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/04/2011/did-peking-man-wield-a-spear

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[jmccr8]

I have another link about Homo erectus,this link discusses the communal living and designated work and living areas found at a site in Northern Israel dating from 750kbp.It is also mentioned that they were consuming fish at this time.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100112-modern-human-behavior/

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[jmccr8]

This following link discusses the possibility that Neandertals boiled food using skins or woven birch bark baskets.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/04/140430-neanderthals-cook-food-evolution-science/

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[jmccr8]

I am also adding this link which unfortunately is quite short so I will look for more material about this subject which deals with shelters that had been constructed by archaic hominids.

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/behavior/terra-amata-shelter

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[jmccr8]

This will be my last post in this thread for tonight,it deals with the subject of clothing.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/09/130911-neanderthal-fashion-week-clothes/

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[jmccr8]

I had intended to add this link last night and forgot,it is relative to the earlier links and helps give an expanded perspective of the other links.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/05/140502-neanderthal-stone-age-humans-anthropology-science-evolution-denisovan/

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[scorpiosonic]

Thanks Jim, both very interesting....I'm on pg 3, making progress!

[jmccr8]

Hi Scorpiosonic,

Your welcome,I find that as I plod along my interest in this subject continues to grow.I find the types of studies and application of scientific techniques used in investigating these sites interesting and have opened many additional areas of interest for me.Enjoy the links .

jmccr8

[jmccr8]

I came across this link about carved ostrich eggs in South Africa in a link that I posted in another thread,now this is not related to Neandertals but I felt that the information was significant and am adding it.Some of these carved shell are from 60kbp,the practice of carving eggs shells is still practiced by some groups today.The egg shells are used for carrying fluids or water.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2010/03/01/an-60000-year-old-artistic-movement-recorded-in-ostrich-egg-shells/

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[jmccr8]

I had been looking for this link in my files for some time and finally found it so I will post it before it goes missing again .The article discusses stone shelters that had been constructed 400kbp and suggests that Homo erectus had started building settlements at this time in Africa.They also suggest that Homo e at these sites cleared land by fire to promote the growth of edible plants for cultivation.

Now that I have found this information again I will be able to search for more about this and will add any additional information that I come across.

http://anthropology.net/2007/06/25/did-homo-erectus-settle-down-400000-years-bp/

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[jmccr8]

This following link describes conflict as well as the physical morphology of pre-neandertal to more recent Neandertals from a site in Spain that has had hominid occupation for 100s of thousands of years.

http://phys.org/news/2014-06-game-thrones-scenario-neandertal-ancestors.html

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[jmccr8]

Hi,

Since I last posted I came to a bit of a dead end until I saw a discussion in another thread about Amerinds having come from Greece.What was brought up was genetic haplotypes and sub-clads by Cormac,which started me wondering if there were groups that developed due to inter-breeding with other hominid groups and where did the events occur and when.

As I have questioned in the past and continue to do so,are some myths/legends/religions from those hominid groups exist within our history?If so some events in that past could be much older than we understand,Speech has been around for quite some time now and shared with several hominid groups that were all practicing burial rites,made tools and in many ways were not so different,so oral traditions would be passed down generation to generation within all groups.

I started looking into the genetics for exchanges and though that I would add some of them here and see if any of you have looked at this aspect before and have any information or insight that might be useful.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-80958.html

https://www.google.ca/search?q=genetic+haplogroups+for+neanderthals&sa=N&rlz=1C1CHFX_enCA459CA459&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=-Er1U8_QBMa5igKL_ID4DQ&ved=0CD4QsAQ4Cg&biw=1366&bih=643

http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.ca/2011/06/charles-darwin-cro-magnon.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3623772/

http://rhnegativebloodsecrets.blogspot.ca/2014/01/y-dna-haplogroup-i-most-common-among.html

http://liberatedway.com/2012/04/08/the-celts-and-their-relationship-to-neanderthals

/http://blogs.plos.org/neuroanthropology/2010/10/26/the-neanderthal-romeo-and-human-juliet-hypothesis/

http://walking-on-fire.blogspot.ca/2012/01/evidence-for-relative-explosion-of.html

Now to be clear a couple of the links are quite speculative and I am not adding them in support of their position but rather examples of potential exchanges of hominid groups for the purpose of discussion.

jmccr8

[jmccr8]

I have a couple of more links to add,the first link deals with interactions of archaic groups both in Africa as well as Asia and Europe.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3408829/

The following link is about the find of pre-Neandertal bone fragments found at the site of Tourville-La-Riviere in Normandy.

http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2014/pre-neanderthal-remains-discovered-at-normandy-site

This link discusses Neandertal admixture in N.Africa.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0047765

In this link there is information about lithic artifacts that were discovered in Russia

http://journal.antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/ocherednoi341

I found the information in this link interesting as it studies short strands of IBD segments and explains that the shorter the strands the older the interaction occurred.

http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2014/07/15/003988.full.pdf

I do have several other links that I would like to add but will refrain for the present.

jmccr8

[toyomotor]

I wish we knew more of the Neanderthal history. It is absolutely fascinating. I wonder if they created structures, monuments or had lived together in primitive towns.

Are you for real?