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Croatia becomes 28th EU member


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Lol I'm not trying to to turn this into a my countries better than yours argument that really would be a bit childish and besides I've had nothing but praise for the Croatia from the get go. The original question what has/can Britain do for Croatia, I supplied a list in the easiest format I could. A simple wiki link to some of the amazing achievements that have come out of Britain. That will have had an effect and will continue to affect the Croatian people. I'm not saying the music, science, literature is better or worse than anyone else I'm just providing information.

Now the replies are going on about me praying to China. WTF

The question is what can the UK do for Europe NOW, IN THE PRESENT TIME.

Not what past inventions contributed to further advances of the entire human race.

Every country has ppl have invented things that did that, it's not relevant to what a country can bring to the table in the present.

You can't say that if the UK doens't stay in Europe that the jet engine will suddenly disappear.

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"Every nation history, customs, tradition, language is unique. Therefore important. It make us rich as collective. I cant agree more. Much like the cultures found in the various states of the USA. Take the customs from New York and compare them to New Orleans. You'll also find the same is true of China, India, even Russia, all at some point in history were a selection of smaller countries. 100 years time EU will be exactly the same. A united Europe in many ways would be a fantastic place that Financially, Culturally, Military, Science, Arts and culture could stand head and shoulders above any nation on the planet. But on the level for the man on the street who's lost his job only to find its being done buy a guy for minimum wage who lives in a bedsit all that counts for nothing.

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You can't say that if the UK doens't stay in Europe that the jet engine will suddenly disappear.

:tu:

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Now the replies are going on about me praying to China. WTF

Chinese invented compass, paper, gun powder, printing press. Its called big 4 inventions.

All 4 change the world from the ground.

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"The question is what can the UK do for Europe NOW, IN THE PRESENT TIME."

Okay here we go, and bear in mind I'm using minimal examples here as I dont have time to write a huge essay.... The constant breakthroughs in science (Huge R&D sites across the country specialising in everything from space research to toys), technology (ARM computer based in cambridge found in most mobile tech), medical research (Norvartis, Astrazenica). The potential to tap huge amounts of shale gas reserves. Our entertainment industry, our film industry is huge Bond, Harry Potter etc as is our video games industry Grand Theft Auto, Fable, Little big planet etc , the Music industry I really shouldn't need to name names here, The UK tourism industry is worth £115 billion

Not to mention the UK would have a massive role a combined EU military. Our access to North Sea fisheries, Untapped energy from Atlantic Wind, wave energies. There's still north sea oil don't believe everything your told. Our huge multinational companies such a BP, Tesco, BT, Alliance Boots, too many to mention. Access to some very strategic over seas territories. Plenty of Arable land and other natural resources such as Coal, North Sea zinc tin, limestone, iron ore, salt, slate, clay, chalk, gypsum, lead, silica. Our Universities 5 of which are in the top 20 of the world. Need more?

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And now imagine I ask you what I as Croat have from it?

Because thats what I have been asked.

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1. That was a reply to "The question is what can the UK do for Europe NOW, IN THE PRESENT TIME."

2. In answer to "And now imagine I ask you what I as Croat have from it?"

I provided an extensive list of things the UK has to offer you and anyone else. How you use that information is really down to your own intellect. You may see nothing of use in this list, others will see potential to trade and make money, some may find a part or invention that is the missing part to their own invention, some may find a job in an industry that doesn't exist in Croatia move and live a better life, some may find that they can educate themselves further. Again some may find nothing.

Here's a few things you could have. Access to technologies invented here. You use a mobile phone right? Chances are it uses an ARM processor. God forbid you get sick, theres a chance your medicine was developed here. Foods, Fishes, meats, Vegetables that may not be feasible to grow in your climate, cheaper access to all of the natural resources that I mentioned.

Potential investment from some of the biggest companies in the world. Access to our Universities (if your smart enough). Do you not watch TV, listen to modern music or play video games? Some of the best there are come from here. You can listen, play and watch.

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Just watch FIFA ranking. :clap:B)

I don't pay much attention to rankings, FIFA normally has England quite high when we usually fail miserably :hmm:

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I don't pay much attention to rankings, FIFA normally has England quite high when we usually fail miserably :hmm:

As you play you collect points. There are ways of calculating it, periodically...

Btw we have better fans. B) Or should I say firms. :gun:

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Lol.

Not just parachute. First rigid airplane.

Torpedo was invented in my country during Austria Hungary...List goes on.

Point is that then Brittish every time when wipe their asses should pray for China. Because toilet paper was invented in China.

Every time Brittish navy use compass they should pray to China.

Every time they read their books they should pray to China.

Every time they won modern war they should pray to China.

Every time you put tie you should pray to Croatia.

Its stupid.

Did you know that the first suicide with a tie was commited by a Brit? Go figure.

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Did you know that the first suicide with a tie was commited by a Brit? Go figure.

really? :w00t:

Hows that come into this story...I hope that we wouldnt strangle Britts as Steve suggests.

I didnt know that.

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likwidlite,

I dont ignore you. Just I have so many to writte on your post...that I gave up.

Same thing about my country. We have plenty things.

Btw we have Pliva for pharma.

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L, I didn't think you had ignored me. You don't need to tell me what Croatia has to offer. I've been there tasted some of its finest fruits, I'd go again in an instant.

You asked what UK had to offer you. I provided a descriptive but bite size answer answer.

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This thread made me to learn more about UK! Thanks. So what have you learnt then. Other than fact we have a tie lying around that someone doesn't use anymore now lol.

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L, I didn't think you had ignored me. You don't need to tell me what Croatia has to offer. I've been there tasted some of its finest fruits, I'd go again in an instant.

You asked what UK had to offer you. I provided a descriptive but bite size answer answer.

My point from start was that if you have knowledge EU provide you opportunties. For all country involved.

Some "Brits" here think that we will just ask for Brititish money.

And even you answered that we dont need to ask for it. You deliver it to us.

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This thread made me to learn more about UK! Thanks. So what have you learnt then. Other than fact we have a tie lying around that someone doesn't use anymore now lol.

I didnt learn in this particular thread but in my own little research about UK which this thread forced me to.

Except that tie suicide.

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"And even you answered that we dont need to ask for it. You deliver it to us". lol Smart thinking.

But its a little different when someone chooses to take their hard earned money to a beautiful place and to spend it on fine food and drink with great company and culture. Than it is seeing your hard earned money squandered on bull**** wars and sent to far off lands when your own services are in dire need of cash.

Now an interesting thing that might put your mind at rest about the British feeling towards the Croats. You have just joined the EU right? Not once did I see a newspaper mentioning "The Croats are coming to steel all our Jobs and take our money and eat our swans and screw our fat birds". In fact I've hardly heard anything about it. If the papers even had a slight thinking you lot where bad they'd be all over it. Seriously.

So you guys joined EU without a squeak. Romania and Bulgaria haven't even joined and the ****s already hitting the fan. Go figure. Could it be that as a nation you bounced back from a bloody war through hard work and determination.

And when I came back from Croatia and told people (ages 20-85) where I'd been the replies we all the same "great place, great people"

Best way to research it is to visit. As of the other day its much easier.

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so after pages of complete dribble. what is the result. Croatia is contributing nothing to the EU, in the terms of benefiting others. they offer no economic growth, they offer no advancement in social mobility, no advancement in health. nothing. in fact they offer the opposite of everything. Nothing. but you can be sure their hand is already out waiting for the EU payments. and where do they think this money is coming from? thin air? its sheer madness allowing new members to join the EU when those countries are in difficultly and will be a further drain on what are limited funds.

all this plays out with the back drop here in the UK of a Home Office report which highlights the problems we are facing thanks to uncontrolled open borders policy. you can read the home office report on the governments website. but its nothing new, members on here predicted the events, no crystal ball was needed. just logic and common sense.

True toll of mass migration on UK life: Half of Britons suffer under strain placed on schools, police, NHS and housing.
  • Half of population lives in town/city with high immigration in past decade
  • Ministers say 'uncontrolled' flow has caused problems for wider society
  • There's pressure on maternity services and high infectious disease rates
  • Squeeze on school places and disproportionate levels of certain crimes
  • Has also resulted in inflated rents and immigrants living in 'beds in sheds

The full impact of mass immigration on British life was laid bare last night by a Home Office report.

It said that half the population lives in a town or city which has experienced high levels of immigration over the past decade.

Ministers said this ‘uncontrolled’ flow had caused a number of problems for wider society, ranging from pressure on maternity services, high rates of infectious diseases and a squeeze on school places, to disproportionate levels of some types of crime, inflated rents and immigrants living in ‘beds in sheds’.

n the landmark report, Home Office researchers studied every one of the 348 local authority areas in the country.

Each was examined to see if it had accommodated high levels of asylum seekers, low-skilled workers, foreign students and other migrant groups.

Overall, migration was found to have had a major impact in 127 of the areas, covering half of the total population.

These ranged from areas of London used to coping with large influxes of newcomers to small market towns.

The report was published as ministers promised tough action to reduce the ‘pull factors’ that draw migrants to Britain.

Social and Public Service Impacts of International Migration at the Local Level – says that every year since 1998 net migration has been above 100,000, peaking at 255,000 in 2010.

In only seven years, between 2004 and 2011, the number of Poles living in the UK leapt from 69,000 to 687,000.

The report studies the impact different groups of immigrants are having on health, education, social services, housing, policing and the jobs market.

While acknowledging the hugely important work carried out by foreign doctors and nurses, researchers revealed a string of pressures on the NHS.

They said that, in a single year, 73 per cent of TB cases reported in the UK, almost 60 per cent of newly diagnosed cases of HIV, and 80 per cent of hepatitis B-infected UK blood donors were from those who were born outside of the UK.

It also says foreign-born women are having more children, an average of 2.28 each compared to 1.89 for UK-born women.

Experts questioned by the Home Office agreed the ‘high birth rates of some migrant groups produce additional demands on midwifery, maternity and health visiting services’.

Health staff said that appointments and visits could take twice as long where patients had poor English, putting significant pressure on other workloads.

On schools, it said the presence of some groups of migrant children had helped to drive up standards, but warned that some areas were finding the ‘churn’ of pupils hard to cope with.

Researchers also said that, in some areas, ‘demand for primary school places outstrips, or almost outstrips, supply’ for migrant children.

Social services said that ‘interpretation costs for migrants who cannot speak English are high due to the need for confidentiality and accuracy’.

In housing, large numbers of low-skilled migrants wanting to rent in the private sector is driving up prices.

On jobs, researchers highlighted findings by the Government’s Migration Advisory Committee of the potential for migrants to displace non-migrant labour.

MAC found that for every 100 non-EU workers employed in the UK, the number of UK workers fell by 23.

Mr Harper said net migration had now been reduced to 163,000 a year, and added: ‘If we do not implement the proper controls, communities can be damaged, resources will be stretched and the benefits that immigration can bring are lost or forgotten

Its a bloody shambles the lot of it. i've said it before and i'll say it again, you want open borders and uncontrolled migration. then you just have to put up with reduced services from the NHS, Education, and Law and Order, including local government services - be ready to accept that its inevitable TAXES will have to rise to fund the declines. we are no longer looking after our own Nation and National interests we are to busily funding other countries and their citizens. i've always been honest and open and never hold back in my thoughts, like me or hate me. my colours are firmly nailed to the mast. Membership of the EU, and the open borders policy is inflicting damage to the very fabric of British society.

i've always been in favour of immigration, i know the long history of the United Kingdom and the benefits immigration brings to the country. our economy and that of western countries is based on population growth. but what i do not agree with is mass immigration, open borders and being a member of the EU. we should have controlled immigration and we should only be permitting the best and brightest, the professionals who'll contribute to the economy and society as a whole. which is not currently happening and resentment will grow, eventually it will end in tears, but what do people expect when their lives are being directly affected. from jobs to health to education to housing. - people are not going to sit their and allow it to happen. politics in the UK and across europe will swing towards the right in the coming years.

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really? :w00t:

Hows that come into this story...I hope that we wouldnt strangle Britts as Steve suggests.

I didnt know that.

No. just kidding. Made it up.

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As you play you collect points. There are ways of calculating it, periodically...

Btw we have better fans. B) Or should I say firms. :gun:

Better is a matter of opinion, your bias towards your own.....which is only to be expected,

I tend to think if your willing to travel around the world to support your nation then better or worse isn't a word I would use to describe any set of fans, as for 'firms'...that's so old school,

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For the most part its hard to disagree with anything your saying. But I feel your barking up the wrong tree pointing at Croatia. Look how far the countries come from the war. From my visit there I found them to be a proud, forward thinking and hardworking people with no interest in handouts, this isn't Romania or Bulgaria.. Oh and the women are stunning.

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stevewinn

For the most part its hard to disagree with anything your saying. But I feel your barking up the wrong tree pointing at Croatia. Look how far the countries come from the war. From my visit there I found them to be a proud, forward thinking and hardworking people with no interest in handouts, this isn't Romania or Bulgaria.. Oh and the women are stunning.

We say the well fed does not believe the hungry one.

Very good point you made there. 1995 Croatia anf Bosnia were in ruins. We still digg the minefields and we still collect our dead. But, 2013 means also that we are not only alive but we are fighting for a better tomorrow. Thousands of tourists flow into both countries. People in much of Croatia can make a decent living just from tourism. Winter tourism is large in Bosnia. Clean food is produced there. Neither Croats or Bosnians would not have the need to work somewhere else if it wasnt for corupt politicians, more in Bosnia though then in Croatia.

Things take time. Good things take even longer.

Having Croatia in the EU will help the Balkans. History proved if everything is fine on the Balkans then Europe is fine.

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We say the well fed does not believe the hungry one.

Very good point you made there. 1995 Croatia anf Bosnia were in ruins. We still digg the minefields and we still collect our dead. But, 2013 means also that we are not only alive but we are fighting for a better tomorrow. Thousands of tourists flow into both countries. People in much of Croatia can make a decent living just from tourism. Winter tourism is large in Bosnia. Clean food is produced there. Neither Croats or Bosnians would not have the need to work somewhere else if it wasnt for corupt politicians, more in Bosnia though then in Croatia.

Things take time. Good things take even longer.

Having Croatia in the EU will help the Balkans. History proved if everything is fine on the Balkans then Europe is fine.

I’d only add that’s not because we shape European history, that’s because we are some kind of geopolitical fault line, so if Europe is about to shake, it starts shaking here.

So they better find a way to pacify the reasons for why Bosnia is not in EU yet, because it would definitely stabilize that fault line of ours.

I just deleted the whole rant about whose fault is our fault line and... Everyone who cares, already knows.

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