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WillowWolf

What do you Think Happened; Dyatlov Pass

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WillowWolf

(I hope I put this in the right forum.)

Ok so I was reading a bunch of articles on Dyatlov Pass recently and am getting more and more interested in theories on the subject.

So I gotta ask, what do you think happened at Dyatlov Pass.

(Here's a link if you don't know the story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident )

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Rlyeh

Attacked by a hyrax

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Rafterman

Frankly, nobody knows. I do know from years of outdoor activities that panic and inexperience kills and the harsher the conditions, the faster this can happen.

I agree with Brian Dunning, however, that whatever did happen can be explained with fairly simple and mundane explanations.

Here's his podcast (you can also read the transcript) if you're interested:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4108

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Cynical Sounds

<p>Avalanche or some kind of similar event followed by hypothermia which lead to paradoxical undressing well that my 2 cent at least p>

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tinysbox13

All of it sounds strange and bizarre.

" All members were experienced in long ski tours and mountain expeditions"

what would make them want to leave their tent so bad that they tore from the inside and left without any footwear?

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Mantis914

All that sounds very good but how do you explain a missing tongue??

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Rafterman

All of it sounds strange and bizarre.

" All members were experienced in long ski tours and mountain expeditions"

what would make them want to leave their tent so bad that they tore from the inside and left without any footwear?

Panic kills.

The Granite Mountain Hotshots were highly trained with years of experience - they were the elite of the elite.

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Rafterman

All that sounds very good but how do you explain a missing tongue??

Animal Predation or in all of the turmoil, she simply bit her tongue off.

Remember, their bodies were exposed for weeks before recovery.

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Mantis914

Animal Predation or in all of the turmoil, she simply bit her tongue off.

Remember, their bodies were exposed for weeks before recovery.

I don't completely disagree but wouldn't the bodies have been ravaged also? I remember something about an orangish tinge to the bodies or the surrounding areas too...

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tinysbox13

Panic kills.

There must a be a reason for sudden panic then, right? Seems more than simple "panic."

The Granite Mountain Hotshots were highly trained with years of experience - they were the elite of the elite.

That statement I would agree on, although both are under different circumstances, both teams were highly skilled and trained. Just seems to me though there are too many details gone unexplained...

Animal Predation or in all of the turmoil, she simply bit her tongue off.

Remember, their bodies were exposed for weeks before recovery.

I would think they'd go more in detail as to which animal(s) would've come to scavenge the scene. And/or mentioned that she was in such a state of panic she bit her tongue off.

- Also I think this was in an episode of Ancient Aliens if I'm not mistaken!?

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Rafterman

I don't completely disagree but wouldn't the bodies have been ravaged also? I remember something about an orangish tinge to the bodies or the surrounding areas too...

Orangish tinge is consistent with being left exposed to the elements in those types of conditions.

Perhaps the tongue was removed before the bodies completely froze? As I said, who knows.

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Rafterman

There must a be a reason for sudden panic then, right? Seems more than simple "panic."

That statement I would agree on, although both are under different circumstances, both teams were highly skilled and trained. Just seems to me though there are too many details gone unexplained...

I would think they'd go more in detail as to which animal(s) would've come to scavenge the scene. And/or mentioned that she was in such a state of panic she bit her tongue off.

- Also I think this was in an episode of Ancient Aliens if I'm not mistaken!?

Who are you referring to that would have said those things? The bodies were out there for weeks before they were discovered. The folks that discovered them didn't know anything more about what happened than we do.

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Odds

Whether it is paranormal, or a mundane explanation, this is one of the most interesting unexplained cases i have read. I have been interested in it for a number of years and still find it intruiging.

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Odds

There must a be a reason for sudden panic then, right? Seems more than simple "panic."

That statement I would agree on, although both are under different circumstances, both teams were highly skilled and trained. Just seems to me though there are too many details gone unexplained...

I would think they'd go more in detail as to which animal(s) would've come to scavenge the scene. And/or mentioned that she was in such a state of panic she bit her tongue off.

- Also I think this was in an episode of Ancient Aliens if I'm not mistaken!?

I'm not sure if this is the whole thing or part of it:

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JMPD1

Just a couple of observations here.

1 - Wiki states: This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please help improve this article by introducing citations to additional sources. (June 2012)

2 - They found footprints leading from the tent, but the remaining bodies were found under 4 meters of snow, in a ravine. You trying to tell me that the footprints lasted from 1/28 to 2/26? There were absolutly no wind or snow in that time to obliterate the prints?

Not a mountaineering expert, but something sounds a wee bit off kilter here. Just saying.

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Wyverna

Hmm, this case was always confusing and intriguing to me.

There are just so many details and observations that don't add up or are just strange.

I've also heard of bunch of variations on the reports. For example, apparently glowing orbs in the sky were reported in the area they were in, there was high levels of radiation, and on a nearby tree something was carved on it (it had to do with a snowman or something like that.)

Who knows what really happened?

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docyabut2

Most likey a small meteor hit them.

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Tutankhaten-pasheri

The glowing balls in the sky were from an R-7 rocket launched that evening from Baikonur to the target Island of Novaya Zemlya. This tragetory was directly over the incident. People, please do not pay any attention to the English wiki, I and another poster have posted links to Russian sites with full information, like the R-7 rocket, the autopsy reports and geniune photos taken by the group, not photoshopped nonsense seen on this thread. This is real information, not fantasy. Precisely what happend is still a mystery, but all these affairs surrounding this are explained. A pity that in the English speaking world all this evidence is not known, or deliberately ignored as it does not fit with the fantasies......

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Bavarian Raven

The tracks (if found as reported) don't seem to make sense. Tracks lasting that long in the winter :/

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Columbo

Attacked by a hyrax

Whats a "hyrex?"

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WillowWolf

Whats a "hyrex?"

A hyrax is a small brown rodent looking thing related to the elephant.

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Columbo

A hyrax is a small brown rodent looking thing related to the elephant.

Oh..you were joking...

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Sir Wearer of Hats

Whats a "hyrex?"

It's a running gag on this forum, we have a forumite who ascribes all mysterious phenomena to mystical hyraxes - who can change their form, turn invisible, fly and the like - we treat it as a joke, we're still not sure how the forumite treats it.

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Columbo

Interesting.

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