Still Waters Posted August 4, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 4, 2013 A Kenyan lawyer has petitioned the International Court of Justice to overturn the trial and conviction of Jesus Christ and his subsequent death sentence. Dola Indidis, a former spokesman of the Kenyan Judiciary, is attempting to sue, among others, the Republic of Italy and the State of Israel over the execution of the Christian Messiah. http://www.dailymail...nded-Jesus.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenWolf Posted August 4, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 4, 2013 http://biblehub.com/matthew/23-12.htm A Kenyan lawyer has petitioned the International Court of Justice to overturn the trial and conviction of Jesus Christ and his subsequent death sentence. Dola Indidis, a former spokesman of the Kenyan Judiciary, is attempting to sue, among others, the Republic of Italy and the State of Israel over the execution of the Christian Messiah. http://www.dailymail...nded-Jesus.html Quote from the article: According to the New Testament, the Messiah ran into trouble after performing miracles and claiming he was the son of God, prompting Jewish authorities to arrest him on charges of blasphemy. --------- Makes me think of this verse from the bible: http://biblehub.com/matthew/23-12.htm For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted August 4, 2013 #3 Share Posted August 4, 2013 He sacrificed Himself for our sins so a pardon is not required, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeWitz Posted August 5, 2013 #4 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Republic of Italy wasn't even established until the 1800's; he can't mean the Vatican (also a sovereign state), as there were no 'Roman Catholic' authorities functioning in Palestine circa 30-33 A.D. St. Peter had just bailed on his first assignment. As for the State of Israel, perhaps there is a need for Special Prosecutor Mel Gibson, who repeated the "blood libel" against the Jewish people in his film "The Passion of the Christ;" but actually theocracy was crushed numerous times in Jerusalem and thereabouts between 70 AD and 1948 AD. What the good lawyer really could use is a time machine to get on the track of those originally implicated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenWolf Posted August 5, 2013 #5 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Republic of Italy wasn't even established until the 1800's; he can't mean the Vatican (also a sovereign state), as there were no 'Roman Catholic' authorities functioning in Palestine circa 30-33 A.D. St. Peter had just bailed on his first assignment. As for the State of Israel, perhaps there is a need for Special Prosecutor Mel Gibson, who repeated the "blood libel" against the Jewish people in his film "The Passion of the Christ;" but actually theocracy was crushed numerous times in Jerusalem and thereabouts between 70 AD and 1948 AD. What the good lawyer really could use is a time machine to get on the track of those originally implicated. What the lawyer could use is a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted August 5, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Oi vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted August 5, 2013 #7 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wouldn't they have to prove he was a real person first. It is all just hearsay. That might be kind of tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted August 5, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 5, 2013 A Kenyan lawyer has petitioned the International Court of Justice to overturn the trial and conviction of Jesus Christ and his subsequent death sentence. Dola Indidis, a former spokesman of the Kenyan Judiciary, is attempting to sue, among others, the Republic of Italy and the State of Israel over the execution of the Christian Messiah. http://www.dailymail...nded-Jesus.html Did anyone not inform the idiot that Jesus was meant to be a sacrifice for the sins of mankind? It was his fathers plan? I hate these things, this tires in with some that claim - Jesus was murdered...they forget the reason why they have salvation amongst everything else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted August 5, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Personally, I'm more worried about "the Jews killed Jesus' angle myself. Other than that, seems like this "lawyer" is trying to make a quick & sleazy buck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted August 5, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Did anyone not inform the idiot that Jesus was meant to be a sacrifice for the sins of mankind? It was his fathers plan? I hate these things, this tires in with some that claim - Jesus was murdered...they forget the reason why they have salvation amongst everything else.. Wouldn't that make it suicide by cop then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Italy isnt Roman empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) Did anyone not inform the idiot that Jesus was meant to be a sacrifice for the sins of mankind? It was his fathers plan? I hate these things, this tires in with some that claim - Jesus was murdered...they forget the reason why they have salvation amongst everything else.. as one member said, he was not murdered, he was executed by law of the state. Edited August 5, 2013 by the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 #13 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Personally, I'm more worried about "the Jews killed Jesus' angle myself. Other than that, seems like this "lawyer" is trying to make a quick & sleazy buck. Oh yes he will be probably accused if not charged for antisemitism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratte Posted August 5, 2013 #14 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Talk about cold case files! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted August 5, 2013 #15 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Oh yes he will be probably accused if not charged for antisemitism. Somehow, I do not think that Kenya has very many anti-Semitic laws on the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2013 #16 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Somehow, I do not think that Kenya has very many anti-Semitic laws on the books Neither Nazi Germany had but they were accused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted August 5, 2013 #17 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wouldn't that make it suicide by cop then? No.. He was sentenced to death, they would have caught him eventually.. All he did was hand himself over after one of his friends grassed him out lol ( Grass on someone is lang for rat on your friends ..tout ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taun Posted August 5, 2013 #18 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) This is just plain silly... Would the World Court even have any jurisdiction to try this case?... The events happened WELL before the courts existence, neither nation involved in the event still exist, and there exists no transcript of the trial, all the evidence is long turned to dust - and perhaps it crosses over the Church-State boundry... - but I have to admit it would be interesting to stage a mock trial with a prosecutor (representing Rome/Judea) and a Defense Attorney representing Jesus... using as much factual evidence as possible... Of course they would have to use Roman Law, as you really can't judge things that happened that long ago by current social/legal standards... A totally non-binding decision, just for the novelty of it... Edited August 5, 2013 by Taun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfin Posted August 5, 2013 #19 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The legal successor to the Roman Empire, if anything is, is the Catholic Church. So he should sue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeWitz Posted August 5, 2013 #20 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The legal successor to the Roman Empire, if anything is, is the Catholic Church. So he should sue them. That is analogous to stating, "the legal successor to King Arthur is the Anglican Church," or, alternatively, "the legal successor to the Mayflower Compact signatories is the United Church of Christ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfin Posted August 5, 2013 #21 Share Posted August 5, 2013 That is analogous to stating, "the legal successor to King Arthur is the Anglican Church," or, alternatively, "the legal successor to the Mayflower Compact signatories is the United Church of Christ." The Catholic Church became an integral part of the Roman state in the 4th century, and after the fall of the empire inherited much of its wealth and administrative functions. In the early middle ages the Church used this fact to its advantage, claiming lordship over kings and princes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie Posted August 5, 2013 #22 Share Posted August 5, 2013 And just when I thought I heard it all.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenWolf Posted August 5, 2013 #23 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No.. He was sentenced to death, they would have caught him eventually.. All he did was hand himself over after one of his friends grassed him out lol ( Grass on someone is lang for rat on your friends ..tout ) Was that before or after he told Judas to leave his wife alone, that she was his? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted August 5, 2013 #24 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The state of isreal wasn't established until the 1900s. The jews did nipot order his death, pilot did. I heard that pilot died a christian. There is no conection between the romen empire and italy. However the vatican is what s left of the roman empire's government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted August 5, 2013 #25 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Neither Nazi Germany had but they were accused. Nazi germany didn't need but one law, kill the jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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