Jenny McCarthy talks to CNN on how she cured

[moonshadow60]

This is the sort of thing that makes me happy to have no children. Personally; I perceive Jenny McCarthy as a loud-mouthed comedian and wonder when she had the time to get a medical degree.

[el midgetron]

Thats were collectivism always seems to go. Empowered by the status quo, their fanatical demands to assimilate turn to murderous rhetoric towards those unwilling. You would make the likes of Mao, Pol Pot & Idi Amin happy as a puppy.

[Little Fish]

Is it relevant to the topic at hand? Does it conclusively say here is a link? Or is it just a bunch of random guys in a room having somebody write down whatever they say with no way of verifying anything?

so you haven't looked at the data, which means simbi Laveau (who you railed at) was correct. you should look at it to at least understand why the positions of those you rail against are valid.

And anyone who says there's no connection between autism and vaccinations obviously hasn't looked at any of the data

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Can't watch the video, what exactly did she say the "cure" was?

A different (and interestingly enough mercury free) diet.

Given that there's a disease (mentioned in this thread - I want to call it Baader Minhoff but that's entirely not it) that is caused by too much mercury that mimics Autism an Mercury free diet would cure that quicksmart.

[WoIverine]

A different (and interestingly enough mercury free) diet.

Given that there's a disease (mentioned in this thread - I want to call it Baader Minhoff but that's entirely not it) that is caused by too much mercury that mimics Autism an Mercury free diet would cure that quicksmart.

It's interesting that excess iron has also recently been found to be a precursor to degenerative mental disease.

[Skep B]

I would guess any metal would mostlikely

[FurthurBB]

Thats were collectivism always seems to go. Empowered by the status quo, their fanatical demands to assimilate turn to murderous rhetoric towards those unwilling. You would make the likes of Mao, Pol Pot & Idi Amin happy as a puppy.

Yes, because my argument is so weak that I have to make some ridiculous claim instead.

[FurthurBB]

A different (and interestingly enough mercury free) diet.

Given that there's a disease (mentioned in this thread - I want to call it Baader Minhoff but that's entirely not it) that is caused by too much mercury that mimics Autism an Mercury free diet would cure that quicksmart.

Considering that autism has completely opposite physiology, I seriously doubt this.

[ShadowSot]

A different (and interestingly enough mercury free) diet.

Given that there's a disease (mentioned in this thread - I want to call it Baader Minhoff but that's entirely not it) that is caused by too much mercury that mimics Autism an Mercury free diet would cure that quicksmart.

Mercury damage is just that, damage caused by mercury. Remove the mercury, the damage is still there.

In any case, the type of mercury that is still use d in some vaccines (though never in the MMR vaccine) does not bioaccumulate, which it would need to in order to cause the damage they claim.

And of course, it is such a tiny amount it is not toxic. You are going to get much more of the harmful form of mercury from eating fish.

FInally, the only thing mercury damage and autism have in common is they are both neurological. However otherwise they are very different.

[Little Fish]

Mercury damage is just that, damage caused by mercury. Remove the mercury, the damage is still there.

In any case, the type of mercury that is still use d in some vaccines (though never in the MMR vaccine) does not bioaccumulate, which it would need to in order to cause the damage they claim.

And of course, it is such a tiny amount it is not toxic. You are going to get much more of the harmful form of mercury from eating fish.

FInally, the only thing mercury damage and autism have in common is they are both neurological. However otherwise they are very different.

"A University of Washington study compared injected ethylmercury with ingested methylmercury in infant primates. Researchers found that the vaccine form of organic mercury (ethyl), quickly began converting into inorganic mercury once it crossed the blood-brain barrier, whereas the fish form (methyl) tended to wash in and out of the brain before it could convert to inorganic mercury.

In fact, the vaccine-exposed monkeys had two-to-four times more inorganic mercury deposited in their brains as did the "fish-exposed" monkeys.

Why is this important? Because inorganic mercury, once it gets inside the brain, tends to stay trapped there for decades"

http://www.huffingto...t_b_139269.html

[ShadowSot]

Please read the first two comments from your blog post you linked to, where it is indicated he misrepresented the implications of the studies he referenced in his blog.

Also, ingesting something in large quantities where it goes through the digestion process can not be compared to something that is present in minute amounts before being administered to a person. Unless you are a homeopath, then the amounts of thimerosal that makes its way into vaccines is not toxic, far less than you'll get from eat fish. Less even than what you'd get from a banana.

Finally, if you were actually concerned about side effects from vaccines, instead of pulling someone's blog posts or youtube videos or some other rubbish, you would actually be pulling real, published, peer reviewed studies like this one from Science:

Vaccine-Induced Anti-HA2 Antibodies Promote Virus Fusion and Enhance Influenza Virus Respiratory Disease

The study found that in modeling in pigs, trying to apply broad spectrum flu vaccines may actually lead to antibodies that other strains of flu can use to their advantage. Definitely a serious problem that will be taken into account as new vaccines are developed.

Did this come from Natural news or Whale.to or something?

No, it came from one of the regular science news reporting sites I follow. Because a decade or more has been spent trying to establish a link between vaccines and autism, and no correlation has been found.

Genetic reasons have been pointed to instead.

Meanwhile, people are still fear mongering the same talking points and diverting intellectual effort, money, and time to problems that already been found to not be real.

[Little Fish]

Please read the first two comments from your blog post you linked to, where it is indicated he misrepresented the implications of the studies he referenced in his blog.

those are anonymous public comments from a single individual who is talking about a different study. it says nothing to the point raised about the monkey study. edit - further, the comment does not "indicate he misrepresented" anything. the comment merely states the study did not layout a mechanism which is not at odds with the huffingtonpost article, the comments are null and nothing, it's a strawman fallacy.

Also, ingesting something in large quantities where it goes through the digestion process can not be compared to something that is present in minute amounts before being administered to a person. Unless you are a homeopath, then the amounts of thimerosal that makes its way into vaccines is not toxic, far less than you'll get from eat fish. Less even than what you'd get from a banana.

it was you that started and continue the comparison, now you are saying they cannot be compared thus contradicting yourself. all that matters is the level in the blood and in the brain which is what the studies measured. you say it is a "tiny" amount, but that is an adjective, not a number. it is the amount per kg body weight that is key, and the infant vaccine amount/kg with a small baby comes out 25 times more than the safety level set by the epa and 5 times more than the blood level that caused detectable pink disease in iraqi children when exposed to mercury tainted seeds.

http://www.unexplain...l

Finally....

none of that has anything to do with the point raised, you are blustering. Edited August 29, 2013 by Little Fish