Big Bad Voodoo Posted September 6, 2013 #1 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Ron Paul: "The danger of escalation with Russia is very high" http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/25-quotes-about-the-coming-war-with-syria-that-every-american-should-see 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 6, 2013 #2 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Ron Paul: "The danger of escalation with Russia is very high" http://theeconomicco...ican-should-see His points are well taken except that he overlooks the fact that the US is already at war with Shia AND Sunni Islam. And he's right, it isn't going to end well. But said ending is going to be unbelievably bloody for everyone - not just the US. Russia is NOT going to attack the US over this. They are still rational, unlike the Islamic factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted September 6, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted September 6, 2013 His points are well taken except that he overlooks the fact that the US is already at war with Shia AND Sunni Islam. And he's right, it isn't going to end well. But said ending is going to be unbelievably bloody for everyone - not just the US. Russia is NOT going to attack the US over this. They are still rational, unlike the Islamic factions. If not now eventually they will defened. Big Bad Voodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiloh17 Posted September 7, 2013 #4 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Well, It seems if President Obama goes it alone without congressional approval, he can be impeached. There is no imminent danger to the United States. If we attack Syria, we will be helping Al Queda, and all the other group of rebels, we don't want to see in power. Obama and Kerry say our credibility is on the line. They are starting to sound like Bush and Cheney. So, whoever makes an argument against a strike, if they are dead set on it, they are going to do it anyway. Just like Bush did with Iraq. He couldn't convince the U.N, or any nation other than the U.K, to invade Iraq, but he went anyway. Assad has said Israel will burn if we attack. There is a real threat of escalation beyond that if he does counter attack Israel. I guess Israel is seen as the west foothold in the middle east. Of course these are the things we have been saying all along, before Ron Paul said a word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 7, 2013 #5 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Well, It seems if President Obama goes it alone without congressional approval, he can be impeached. There is no imminent danger to the United States. If we attack Syria, we will be helping Al Queda, and all the other group of rebels, we don't want to see in power. Obama and Kerry say our credibility is on the line. They are starting to sound like Bush and Cheney. So, whoever makes an argument against a strike, if they are dead set on it, they are going to do it anyway. Just like Bush did with Iraq. He couldn't convince the U.N, or any nation other than the U.K, to invade Iraq, but he went anyway. Assad has said Israel will burn if we attack. There is a real threat of escalation beyond that if he does counter attack Israel. I guess Israel is seen as the west foothold in the middle east. Of course these are the things we have been saying all along, before Ron Paul said a word. Assad has no reason to respect Obama. He has had PROOF Israel will kick his teeth in - even target him personally - if he strikes them. He is a survivor and will not act foolishly at this point. It will be interesting to see if Iran is bold enough to give Israel an excuse to launch a long awaited party for Natanz and Fordow. Never underestimate the boldness of the IDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted September 7, 2013 #6 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Launching a chemical attack on his own people wasn't acting foolishly after surviving for all those years? Launching a chem attack after it's becoming clear he's winning the war? When it's the one thing Obama drew his red line about? Let's await the inspection report from the UN to find out what really happened. I know, I know the Congress has to act now. Those missiles have a political expiration date where Obama can't fire them anymore so what is Congress waiting for? Get the bureaucratic business out of the way first, launch the attacks, the UN will say what they're going to say anyway and we'll marginalize them repeatedly for it if not ignore them altogether. We'll also make up fabulous tall tales, like how Assad wouldn't let the inspectors in. It's 2003 reincarnate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted September 7, 2013 #7 Share Posted September 7, 2013 How is he winning the war after over 2 years? just because one says someone is winning something does not mean they are winning. It is a morale boosting phrase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted September 7, 2013 #8 Share Posted September 7, 2013 How is he winning the war after over 2 years? just because one says someone is winning something does not mean they are winning. It is a morale boosting phrase With military victories and the battle for hearts and minds of the Syrian people according to data collected this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted September 7, 2013 #9 Share Posted September 7, 2013 With military victories and the battle for hearts and minds of the Syrian people according to data collected this year. hahahaha this year ??? shall i count how many tanks govenment lost this year ? or shall i mention how many aircraft they lost ? or you want me to mention how many airport fallen this year ? how about how many military base got freed by rebels ? or rebels taking control of anti-aircraft weapon storage few months back with thousands of anti-aircraft missiles army of government defecting every day .. last week only 150 defected and WITHIN damascus city ..not countryside the kaboon .. an area the government could not invade since a year nearly ! barzah .. also area within captial city could not invade it since a year also ! what kinda of government victories are those ? their only victory was in Qusair in homes .. and khalidia in homs .. coz homs is under siege from hezboallah murderers from lebanon and that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted September 10, 2013 #10 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Ron Paul: "The danger of escalation with Russia is very high" http://theeconomicco...ican-should-see I agree completely with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 10, 2013 #11 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I agree completely with this. So you believe that Putin would risk nuclear war over Syria? Why do you believe he is that interested in the country and it's future? And if you do believe he is that dedicated do you think he is rolling the dice because he thinks Obama can be had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted September 10, 2013 #12 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So you believe that Putin would risk nuclear war over Syria? Why do you believe he is that interested in the country and it's future? And if you do believe he is that dedicated do you think he is rolling the dice because he thinks Obama can be had? So you point your attention towards Putin and his possible reaction as if you are willing to blame him for a possible holocaust but you disregard completely the mischievous and deceitful acts of the Obama Administration, highlighted in the article. Stop looking elsewhere for someone to blame, many Americans have become accustomed to the deceitful activity of their politicians (which have an impact on a world scale) and can see straight through the lies. Why not you? Wake up AT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 10, 2013 #13 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So you point your attention towards Putin and his possible reaction as if you are willing to blame him for a possible holocaust but you disregard completely the mischievous and deceitful acts of the Obama Administration, highlighted in the article. Stop looking elsewhere for someone to blame, many Americans have become accustomed to the deceitful activity of their politicians (which have an impact on a world scale) and can see straight through the lies. Why not you? Wake up AT. I do no such thing. Putin is an enemy of this country and of the west in general. But he is doing nothing more than taking advantage of an idiot we have for a president. I asked a simple question and you seem more interested in making it about ME than the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted September 11, 2013 #14 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The article isn't about Russia or Putin, it's about the behavior of the Obama Administration and what every American should be aware of. Indications from polls show that Americans DO NOT believe in getting involved in a conflict in Syria or risk one with Russia. Therefore, the majority have shown they aren't prepared to gulp down any deceitful porky thrown at them and aren't as stupid as their leaders think they are. Obviously there are the exceptions..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted September 11, 2013 #15 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) I do no such thing. Putin is an enemy of this country and of the west in general. But he is doing nothing more than taking advantage of an idiot we have for a president. I asked a simple question and you seem more interested in making it about ME than the topic. Evidence please. Edited September 11, 2013 by Kaa-Tzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetorian-legio XIII Posted September 11, 2013 #16 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I believe the possibility exists that the "chemical attacks" were actually a false flag operation committed by the rebels to bring the US into the conflict against Assad thereby aiding them in their "struggle" Great idea obama, lets set up Al-queda or jhihadists or the muslim brotherhood(again) as the government of a country right in the middle of all the middle east s#%t And its laughable that we are calling them rebels and not terrorists, that in any other light they are. Hey McCain, next time you go to visit your islamic terrorist buddies, do us all a favor and don't come back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted September 11, 2013 #17 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I do no such thing. Putin is an enemy of this country and of the west in general. But he is doing nothing more than taking advantage of an idiot we have for a president. I asked a simple question and you seem more interested in making it about ME than the topic. Nonsense. Putin is no more "an enemy of America", than Obama is "an enemy of Russia". Both do what they do for what they perceive to be in their own best interest - that is all. All this "enemy" claptrap is simply the programming the US State implants into the majority of it's citizens. Call Putin selfish, dictatorial, narcissitic, etc and I would agree. But Putin (like any so-called 'world-leader') is only the 'enemy' of those who want to make him their enemy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2013 #18 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Nonsense. Putin is no more "an enemy of America", than Obama is "an enemy of Russia". Both do what they do for what they perceive to be in their own best interest - that is all. All this "enemy" claptrap is simply the programming the US State implants into the majority of it's citizens. Call Putin selfish, dictatorial, narcissitic, etc and I would agree. But Putin (like any so-called 'world-leader') is only the 'enemy' of those who want to make him their enemy. It's called an OPINION Leonardo - guess what - we are ALL entitled to them. We will see soon enough who is right or wrong in their observations of this man - though I seriously doubt you will admit any error at any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted September 11, 2013 #19 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It's called an OPINION Leonardo - guess what - we are ALL entitled to them. We will see soon enough who is right or wrong in their observations of this man - though I seriously doubt you will admit any error at any Then stop putting across your opinions as if they are statements of fact and behaving as if only you have the "truth". I think your knowledge of Putin and what he thinks is very limited indeed. Perhaps, as you are such a cheer leader for Israel, you could tell us what Russian Jews think of Putin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2013 #20 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) The article isn't about Russia or Putin, it's about the behavior of the Obama Administration and what every American should be aware of. Indications from polls show that Americans DO NOT believe in getting involved in a conflict in Syria or risk one with Russia. Therefore, the majority have shown they aren't prepared to gulp down any deceitful porky thrown at them and aren't as stupid as their leaders think they are. Obviously there are the exceptions..... Again with the insults. If you believe Putin to be truly interested in the welfare of the west then I commend you to whatever you hold dear -I'm all full up with crazy and not buyin' as Jack Nicholson once said... Edited September 11, 2013 by and then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 11, 2013 #21 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Then stop putting across your opinions as if they are statements of fact and behaving as if only you have the "truth". I think your knowledge of Putin and what he thinks is very limited indeed. Perhaps, as you are such a cheer leader for Israel, you could tell us what Russian Jews think of Putin. Words like "as if" and "behaving" denote opinions of your own Raccoon. You are making assumptions and I owe no obligation to filter my speech to meet your expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted September 11, 2013 #22 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Words like "as if" and "behaving" denote opinions of your own Raccoon. You are making assumptions and I owe no obligation to filter my speech to meet your expectations. You seem to have mistaken me for somebody who gives a damn about threats from the like of you, and you also seem to have mistaken yourself for somebody who has anything worthwhile to say. You may think post counts and time served here give you some importance, I and others don't give a rats .... about you or your venomous minority opinions. Edited September 11, 2013 by Kaa-Tzik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 12, 2013 #23 Share Posted September 12, 2013 You seem to have mistaken me for somebody who gives a damn about threats from the like of you, and you also seem to have mistaken yourself for somebody who has anything worthwhile to say. You may think post counts and time served here give you some importance, I and others don't give a rats .... about you or your venomous minority opinions. Everyone here has the same object and there is no "seniority" as such. And my "venomous opinions" seem to be appreciated by a few. Stick around and try not to get your feelings hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaa-Tzik Posted September 12, 2013 #24 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Everyone here has the same object and there is no "seniority" as such. And my "venomous opinions" seem to be appreciated by a few. Stick around and try not to get your feelings hurt I think you meant to say that your venomous opinions seem to be appreciated by few. And that is shown in the likes I get for my posts and the lack of likesfor yours. But I don't see this as a childish competition, and am more interested in pointing out lies, propaganda hate speech and in some cases libel when I see it. Found out what Russian Jews think of Putin yet? surely they must hate him, surely...... Edited September 12, 2013 by Kaa-Tzik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 12, 2013 #25 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I think you meant to say that your venomous opinions seem to be appreciated by few. And that is shown in the likes I get for my posts and the lack of likesfor yours. But I don't see this as a childish competition, and am more interested in pointing out lies, propaganda hate speech and in some cases libel when I see it. Found out what Russian Jews think of Putin yet? surely they must hate him, surely...... Rather a nasty little Raccoon aren't ya? One man's hate speech is another man's truths. Never assume your opinion is anything more than that and you'll get on fine here. Ta.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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