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Well, acting like things that are physiologically impossible is a good way to start the buffonary.

Having money created by anyone disrupts all that is physiologically.

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printing things on woven paper fibers doesn't affect any phisiological facts.

....Shape shifting reptiles from outer space/ other dimensions/ dark side of the moon/ Oz does

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printing things on woven paper fibers doesn't affect any phisiological facts.

Like money, oh yes it does. look the world today with people commiting suicide because they have no paper woven fibres.

....Shape shifting reptiles from outer space/ other dimensions/ dark side of the moon/ Oz does

Who says they come from outer space? They share the same space but in another dimension. And yes they do disrupt the the system.

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Well, acting like things that are physiologically impossible is a good way to start the buffonary.

The DNA we are born with is not the sole determinant for our health and well-being. Stem cell biologist Bruce Lipton, Ph.D., discusses the important difference between genetic determinism and epigenetics in an interview with Super Consciousness magazine:

“The difference between these two is significant because this fundamental belief called genetic determinism literally means that our lives, which are defined as our physical, physiological and emotional behavioral traits, are controlled by the genetic code. This kind of belief system provides a visual picture of people being victims: If the genes control our life function, then our lives are being controlled by things outside of our ability to change them. This leads to victimization that the illnesses and diseases that run in families are propagated through the passing of genes associated with those attributes. Laboratory evidence shows this is not true.”

Lipton’s theory is confirmed by Carlo Ventura, M.D., Ph.D., professor and researcher at the University of Bologna in Italy. Dr. Ventura has shown through lab testing that the DNA of stem cells can be altered using magnetic field frequencies.

“It’s like a time machine. You’re reprogramming somehow backward with these cells to an uncertain state in which any kind of decision is somehow possible; even the decision to become virtually any kind of cell of the organism. And just think about the tremendous potential of this discovery.”

He adds that two Nobel Prize-winning scientists discovered even “nonstem adult cells can be epigenetically reprogrammed backward to a state where they can eventually give rise to neural cells, cardiac cells, skeletal muscle cells or insulin-producing cells.”

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/09/24/really-can-change-dna-heres/

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The DNA we are born with is not the sole determinant for our health and well-being. Stem cell biologist Bruce Lipton, Ph.D., discusses the important difference between genetic determinism and epigenetics in an interview with Super Consciousness magazine:

“The difference between these two is significant because this fundamental belief called genetic determinism literally means that our lives, which are defined as our physical, physiological and emotional behavioral traits, are controlled by the genetic code. This kind of belief system provides a visual picture of people being victims: If the genes control our life function, then our lives are being controlled by things outside of our ability to change them. This leads to victimization that the illnesses and diseases that run in families are propagated through the passing of genes associated with those attributes. Laboratory evidence shows this is not true.”

Lipton’s theory is confirmed by Carlo Ventura, M.D., Ph.D., professor and researcher at the University of Bologna in Italy. Dr. Ventura has shown through lab testing that the DNA of stem cells can be altered using magnetic field frequencies.

“It’s like a time machine. You’re reprogramming somehow backward with these cells to an uncertain state in which any kind of decision is somehow possible; even the decision to become virtually any kind of cell of the organism. And just think about the tremendous potential of this discovery.”

He adds that two Nobel Prize-winning scientists discovered even “nonstem adult cells can be epigenetically reprogrammed backward to a state where they can eventually give rise to neural cells, cardiac cells, skeletal muscle cells or insulin-producing cells.”

http://www.wakingtim...ange-dna-heres/

Your post quotes what appears to be a misrepresentation of the issue at hand. The DNA is not altered. The epigenetics might be. The claims about confirmation by Ventura are not referenced. Where in the literature is this confirmation?

Here is the bio for Ventura.

http://selectbiosciences.com/conferences/biographies.aspx?speaker=191595&conf=SCE2012

Moreover, he found that physical stimuli, including magnetic fields, radiofrequencies, and sound vibrational (nanomechanical) energy, remarkably affected cell behavior, including stem cell commitment and terminal differentiation without the intervention of chemical agonists or viral vector-mediated gene delivery. These findings paved the way to novel approaches in tissue engineering and post-infarct myocardial regeneration.

So who is Lipton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_lipton

Bruce Harold Lipton (born 21 October 1944) is an American developmental biologist, who is best known for promoting the idea that genes and DNA can be manipulated by a person's beliefs.

What does Ventura's work have to do with Lipton? Nothing.

Lipton is known for his claims that the cell membrane, which he refers to as the mem-brane, controls things and not the nucleus. He pushes a lot of "think it and it happens." His books claim that he was doing stem cell research when in fact his CV lists him doing something else. He contradicts himself. He also claims to have discovered cell differentiation in 1967. Not true. He lied. It was discovered years earlier by others.

So why are you posting about a well known misrepresenter, liar, and fraud?

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Like money, oh yes it does. look the world today with people commiting suicide because they have no paper woven fibres.

Who says they come from outer space? They share the same space but in another dimension. And yes they do disrupt the the system.

I didn't think anyone really believed in Icke's ridiculous claims of reptilians. You're just pretending, right?

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I didn't think anyone really believed in Icke's ridiculous claims of reptilians. You're just pretending, right?

On David Icke's forums quite a few people buy the shape-shifting reptilians crap.
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The DNA we are born with is not the sole determinant for our health and well-being. Stem cell biologist Bruce Lipton, Ph.D., discusses the important difference between genetic determinism and epigenetics in an interview with Super Consciousness magazine:

“The difference between these two is significant because this fundamental belief called genetic determinism literally means that our lives, which are defined as our physical, physiological and emotional behavioral traits, are controlled by the genetic code. This kind of belief system provides a visual picture of people being victims: If the genes control our life function, then our lives are being controlled by things outside of our ability to change them. This leads to victimization that the illnesses and diseases that run in families are propagated through the passing of genes associated with those attributes. Laboratory evidence shows this is not true.”

Lipton’s theory is confirmed by Carlo Ventura, M.D., Ph.D., professor and researcher at the University of Bologna in Italy. Dr. Ventura has shown through lab testing that the DNA of stem cells can be altered using magnetic field frequencies.

“It’s like a time machine. You’re reprogramming somehow backward with these cells to an uncertain state in which any kind of decision is somehow possible; even the decision to become virtually any kind of cell of the organism. And just think about the tremendous potential of this discovery.”

He adds that two Nobel Prize-winning scientists discovered even “nonstem adult cells can be epigenetically reprogrammed backward to a state where they can eventually give rise to neural cells, cardiac cells, skeletal muscle cells or insulin-producing cells.”

http://www.wakingtim...ange-dna-heres/

Just taking a stab in the dark here.

But, I am 100% confident that you have no clue what you just posted.

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Your post quotes what appears to be a misrepresentation of the issue at hand. The DNA is not altered. The epigenetics might be. The claims about confirmation by Ventura are not referenced. Where in the literature is this confirmation?

Here is the bio for Ventura.

http://selectbioscie...95&conf=SCE2012

So who is Lipton

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Bruce_lipton

What does Ventura's work have to do with Lipton? Nothing.

Lipton is known for his claims that the cell membrane, which he refers to as the mem-brane, controls things and not the nucleus. He pushes a lot of "think it and it happens." His books claim that he was doing stem cell research when in fact his CV lists him doing something else. He contradicts himself. He also claims to have discovered cell differentiation in 1967. Not true. He lied. It was discovered years earlier by others.

So why are you posting about a well known misrepresenter, liar, and fraud?

I still love his talks and his passion. :tsu:

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On David Icke's forums quite a few people buy the shape-shifting reptilians crap.

They are probably the one's who have read the books watched the 10 hr or so long talks and had an experience to enable them to understand about the reptilians.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't real.

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They are probably the one's who have read the books watched the 10 hr or so long talks and had an experience to enable them to understand about the reptilians.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't real.

Jeez, after watching Icke stand up and gas for 10 hours, then yes, I think I'd be ready to believe anything

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They are probably the one's who have read the books watched the 10 hr or so long talks and had an experience to enable them to understand about the reptilians.

A 10 hour brainwashing session?
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't real.

There is no evidence for these reptilians. It's a belief, a dogma of Icke's teachings.
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I still love his talks and his passion. :tsu:

So you are willing to allow this person to lie to you in the name of passion?

Lipton lies about his background and research. He lies about the implications. He lies about the work of others?

You think that is worthy of a thumbs up?

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They are probably the one's who have read the books watched the 10 hr or so long talks and had an experience to enable them to understand about the reptilians.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't real.

I think you meant to say that these people are gullible fools and that it's okay for Icke to take them to the cleaner.

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Jeez, after watching Icke stand up and gas for 10 hours, then yes, I think I'd be ready to believe anything

I'd say more like 1000 hrs :su

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So you are willing to allow this person to lie to you in the name of passion?

Lipton lies about his background and research. He lies about the implications. He lies about the work of others?

You think that is worthy of a thumbs up?

oh yeah for sure. :tsu: :tsu: :tsu: :tsu:

I think you meant to say that these people are gullible fools and that it's okay for Icke to take them to the cleaner.

:tu:

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So if you accept and praise liars, it is my opinion that you too must feel that telling lies in this forum is acceptable and that you probably do it readily. On the other hand, you simply might enjoy watching Icke rip off those that are gullible.

Would you care to clarify the issue?

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So if you accept and praise liars, it is my opinion that you too must feel that telling lies in this forum is acceptable and that you probably do it readily. On the other hand, you simply might enjoy watching Icke rip off those that are gullible.

Would you care to clarify the issue?

http://www.richarddawkins.net/

Now that's gullible!

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richard dawkins......one of the most intelligent well spoken men our the modern era, is your example of gullabilty?

Ok, i see whats going on here.

you go on and have your fun, right on man.

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Stereologist: "So you are willing to allow this person to lie to you in the name of passion?

Lipton lies about his background and research. He lies about the implications. He lies about the work of others?

You think that is worthy of a thumbs up?"

David Icke is Right: "oh yeah for sure."

Well, that does it for me. DIiR, in my opinion, is a paid spammer from David Icke's websites. He's recruiting to another forum. Occam's razor and all that.

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do you believe he is good man or a bad man?

David Icke is a 'bad man'. He convinces the susceptible and the gullible out of their hard earned "non-existent" money.

There are lower human life forms than him though. I'll give him that much.

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