aztek Posted September 26, 2013 #1 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) WASHINGTON (AP) — Government agents acting without authorization conducted dozens of undercover investigations of illegal tobacco sales, misused some of $162 million in profits from the stings and lost track of at least 420 million cigarettes, the Justice Department's inspector general said Wednesday. In one case, agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives sold $15 million in cigarettes and later turned over $4.9 million in profits from the sales to a confidential informant — even though the agency did not properly account for the transaction. http://news.yahoo.co...--politics.html WTF is ATF is doing, first FF now this. i wonder did they and informant especially paid taxes? that is no gvmt, that is mafia. and they talk sht about other countries gvmnts. Edited September 26, 2013 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah65 Posted September 26, 2013 #2 Share Posted September 26, 2013 And you act as if you are surprised...all the departments are thugs and crooks... Drug sales, human trafficking, weapons sales, assassins...name your poison and someone in GOV will hook you up...for a "confidential fee" of course. Anyone recall the Iran-Contra show?.... Nothing these people do shocks me anymore... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayno Posted September 26, 2013 #3 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Welcome to the United States of Amerika. Where the IRS loses millions of dollar and the ATF misplaces millions of death sticks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted September 26, 2013 #4 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I would grow my own if it did not take so much space to support my own habit :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted September 27, 2013 #5 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The irony of the number 420 in a story about the one of two things people want to smoke that government lets us smoke, the thing that puts over 400,000 Americans in the ground every year, is just too rich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama13 Posted September 27, 2013 #6 Share Posted September 27, 2013 WASHINGTON (AP) — Government agents acting without authorization conducted dozens of undercover investigations of illegal tobacco sales, misused some of $162 million in profits from the stings and lost track of at least 420 million cigarettes, the Justice Department's inspector general said Wednesday. In one case, agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives sold $15 million in cigarettes and later turned over $4.9 million in profits from the sales to a confidential informant — even though the agency did not properly account for the transaction. http://news.yahoo.co...--politics.html WTF is ATF is doing, first FF now this. i wonder did they and informant especially paid taxes? that is no gvmt, that is mafia. and they talk sht about other countries gvmnts. ATF should be the name of a convenience store, not a government agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted September 27, 2013 #7 Share Posted September 27, 2013 How in the heck does one misplace a couple million cartons of smokes? That's gotta be a truck or two full of the things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted September 27, 2013 #8 Share Posted September 27, 2013 How in the heck does one misplace a couple million cartons of smokes? That's gotta be a truck or two full of the things. No problem for the ATF, they probably sold them to the Mexicans instead of guns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunn Posted September 27, 2013 #9 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Ooooh man! That's a lot of smokes!!! Good thing I quit about two years ago though, I probably would have cried over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty55 Posted September 27, 2013 #10 Share Posted September 27, 2013 How in the heck does one misplace a couple million cartons of smokes? That's gotta be a truck or two full of the things. Obviously been stolen and sold on black market by corrupt agents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted September 27, 2013 #11 Share Posted September 27, 2013 How in the heck does one misplace a couple million cartons of smokes? That's gotta be a truck or two full of the things. One way would be to SELL those cartons, case at a time, on the black market. Just a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelnjones Posted September 27, 2013 #12 Share Posted September 27, 2013 and then funnel the profits to the contras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 27, 2013 Author #13 Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) they don't even need to do that, all they need is to sell them to legit stores, no one would refuse such deal with ATF agents. no matter the terms. there isn't really a black market for cigs. there are few ppl buying in states with low cig tax (VA) and selling in high tax place (NYC), for less than stores sell. but other than that there is no black market for cigs. Edited September 27, 2013 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted September 28, 2013 #14 Share Posted September 28, 2013 they don't even need to do that, all they need is to sell them to legit stores, no one would refuse such deal with ATF agents. no matter the terms. there isn't really a black market for cigs. there are few ppl buying in states with low cig tax (VA) and selling in high tax place (NYC), for less than stores sell. but other than that there is no black market for cigs. What you describe IS a black market, in this case created by the excessive taxes in certain jurisdictions as you mention. Prohibition is not the only thing that can create a black market. Poor and excessive taxing schemes can do it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joz48 Posted September 28, 2013 #15 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Ha Ha fantastic...I love this sort of thread as again it shows how stupid people are. Do they really believe that they've been misplace! can you imagine the conversation '' well sir it's like this.....we put them in the warehouse and it's sort of....well Fred had the key's n when we went back the door was open and the ciggs where gone'' Boss: '' any clues to who did it son???'' '' No sir not a clue sir'' Boss: ''well i guess these things happen son..........dismissed'' ''Sir yes sir'' One final thing sir it's Freds leaving party tonight apparently his numbers came up on the state lottery, any chance we can get off early to see him off sir?'' Boss: '' Course son just make sure the paper work on those cigarettes is done before you go'' Ha ha all we need now if for them to come out and admit to the multitude of alien evidence they have only to find out they've misplaced it lol Truly magnificent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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