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Besides, giving in would just set a new bad precedent. That would leave the door open for the Dems to just demand whatever they want as soon as they have a majority in Congress (which, given how people feel about the shutdown will be rather sooner than later) or Senate or refuse to pass a budget.

Extortion as another means of politics. Fantastic! And then you don't even need a majority!

Pass a budget?

We have been riding the CR Train for years!

The good news is that we have China and Japan putting the pressure on Obama. "The clock is ticking!"

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CyberKen, I know I have implied this before - but now I'm just going to ask plain and clear.

Are you a Republican Party (or Tea Party) activist here to post propaganda for your political affiliation?

The reason I ask is that no person normally 'communicates' (and I use that word cautiously) as you do - in hyperbolic sound-bites.

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CyberKen, I know I have implied this before - but now I'm just going to ask plain and clear.

Are you a Republican Party (or Tea Party) activist here to post propaganda for your political affiliation?

The reason I ask is that no person normally 'communicates' (and I use that word cautiously) as you do - in hyperbolic sound-bites.

I just post what is on Drudge Report and Gallup.

What's the big deal ???

Most Americans are not even aware that Newt and Bill Clinton spoke - everyday - during the 28 day government shutdown in 1995.

They are low information Americans. Most Americans are clueless about the $17 Trillion National Debt.

Knowledge is Power

The above numbers are facts, not propaganda.

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I just post what is on Drudge Report and Gallup.

What's the big deal ???

Most Americans are not even aware that Newt and Bill Clinton spoke - everyday - during the 28 day government shutdown in 1995.

They are low information Americans. Most Americans are clueless about the $17 Trillion National Debt.

Knowledge is Power

The above numbers are facts, not propaganda.

You are correct, knowledge is power. But Ken, you give new meaning to the term "head in the clouds", because your head is literally in the data cloud. You have not posted a single, original thought in regards to anything. You read something on a website and repeat it, and continue repeating it until it loses all meaning.

Keep talking about your 11th hour deal. So far you are batting .000 on those.

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You are correct, knowledge is power. But Ken, you give new meaning to the term "head in the clouds", because your head is literally in the data cloud. You have not posted a single, original thought in regards to anything. You read something on a website and repeat it, and continue repeating it until it loses all meaning.

Keep talking about your 11th hour deal. So far you are batting .000 on those.

People would rather hear - FACTS - instead of - Original Thought -.

When Obama is out of the White House then i will throw some - Original Thoughts - at you.

In the meantime, we have a serious debt crisis to contend with.

We have a serious Fear-Mongering Campaign going on right now.

Now is a bad time to say "So what?" and just start throwing out - Original Thoughts -.

Stick with the facts:

BusinessWeek Magazine has gone to DEFCON 1 and you want to sit back and think happy thoughts ???

"DEFAULT of the National Debt will be an economic calamity like none the world has ever seen."

Truth: There will be no default on the U.S. Treasury Notes and Bonds.

Jack Lew can pay the interest payments with less than $30 Billion.

It just so happens that Jack Lew says he HAS $30 Billion to spend October 17, 2013. Coincidence ???

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Fact. There are now 219 confirmed represantitives that would vote for a clean spending resolution and end the government shutdown. To pass, it would need 217.

How is that for a fact?

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Fact. There are now 219 confirmed represantitives that would vote for a clean spending resolution and end the government shutdown. To pass, it would need 217.

How is that for a fact?

The 'vote' is fact....all else is speculation...You are Speculating that it is a fact. It isn't. It can't be. The fact cannot actually be 'fact' until a vote. That's it. And anyway...so freaking what?! It isn't like Harry Reid has put every bill on the floor either. He won't...that is the prolem. Why won't he put the Repub bills on the floor for a vote. Nevermind...you are falling for the game being played out for you by those you have never even heard of. The Obama's and the Reid's and the Pelosi's and the Boehner's and the rest are all marianettes on a string...and that string is always being pulled by those who are in control of the money supply. That is fact!

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Fact. There are now 219 confirmed represantitives that would vote for a clean spending resolution and end the government shutdown. To pass, it would need 217.

How is that for a fact?

Nina Easton from Fortune Magazine said "That is outrageous! Speaker Boehner will NOT introduce a clean CR. He would get crucified

and escorted out of his office."

She was on Hannity 2 days ago.

She went on to reveal the obvious. "There will be an 11th hour Compromise just like the Sequester."

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Then put it to a vote Joc! Clearly the republican party is falling apart. They are not united. Are you that blind that you can't see that? The thing is, the Senate does not have to vote to open the government, the house does! So what do you think Joc? Do you think if the republicans succeed in this mess, that it sets a good precedence? Joc, don't you think that would cause an issue like this when we reach other deadlines? Well Joc? Very curious as to what you have to say seeing how you are one of the very few "enlightened". You clearly have a much better idea of what is going on and what the correct course of action should be. Maybe you should just run for office! You are far superior than the rest of us.

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The 'vote' is fact....all else is speculation...You are Speculating that it is a fact. It isn't. It can't be. The fact cannot actually be 'fact' until a vote. That's it. And anyway...so freaking what?! It isn't like Harry Reid has put every bill on the floor either. He won't...that is the prolem. Why won't he put the Repub bills on the floor for a vote. Nevermind...you are falling for the game being played out for you by those you have never even heard of. The Obama's and the Reid's and the Pelosi's and the Boehner's and the rest are all marianettes on a string...and that string is always being pulled by those who are in control of the money supply. That is fact!

Another Fact: China and Japan will have their eyes glued to the TV at that 11th Hour of the debt crisis.

They want / DEMAND their interest payments on all of their U.S. Treasury Notes.

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Nina Easton from Fortune Magazine said "That is outrageous! Speaker Boehner will NOT introduce a clean CR. He would get crucified

and escorted out of his office."

She was on Hannity 2 days ago.

She went on to reveal the obvious. "There will be an 11th hour Compromise just like the Sequester."

EXACTLY KEN! Now you see the light, you just don't realize it yet. Boehner cares more about his job than the American people. If he let the house vote on the bill, it would pass, and then the far right would be done with Boehner, and he knows that.

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EXACTLY KEN! Now you see the light, you just don't realize it yet. Boehner cares more about his job than the American people. If he let the house vote on the bill, it would pass, and then the far right would be done with Boehner, and he knows that.

Boehner is dead anyway, if the Dems cave in he will be replaced by a teaperson, if the Reps cave in he has no chance but to quit. This thing went too far.

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Then put it to a vote Joc! Clearly the republican party is falling apart. They are not united. Are you that blind that you can't see that? The thing is, the Senate does not have to vote to open the government, the house does! So what do you think Joc? Do you think if the republicans succeed in this mess, that it sets a good precedence? Joc, don't you think that would cause an issue like this when we reach other deadlines? Well Joc? Very curious as to what you have to say seeing how you are one of the very few "enlightened". You clearly have a much better idea of what is going on and what the correct course of action should be. Maybe you should just run for office! You are far superior than the rest of us.

The republican party has always been fighting. Tea Party -vs- Big Gov GOP dinosaurs. It's nothing new.

Truth: Some democrats think Nancy Pelosi is a NUT !

Go ahead and ask them.

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Nina Easton from Fortune Magazine said "That is outrageous! Speaker Boehner will NOT introduce a clean CR. He would get crucified

and escorted out of his office."

She was on Hannity 2 days ago.

She went on to reveal the obvious. "There will be an 11th hour Compromise just like the Sequester."

And that's the real reason there will be no compromise - because Boehner would lose his job. That's more important to him than the state of the nation, or all the Federal employees not getting paid.

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EXACTLY KEN! Now you see the light, you just don't realize it yet. Boehner cares more about his job than the American people. If he let the house vote on the bill, it would pass, and then the far right would be done with Boehner, and he knows that.

I don't know if you realize it yet but Speaker Boehner and Senator Ted Cruz are headed for a major victory.

They have new allies - China and Japan -. Obama is getting pushed to the compromise table.

The 37% Approval rating is just another reason to walk to the compromise table.

Obama is just delaying the inevitable. He already lost.

Gene Sperling let the cat out of the bag.

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I don't know if you realize it yet but Speaker Boehner and Senator Ted Cruz are headed for a major victory.

They have new allies - China and Japan -. Obama is getting pushed to the compromise table.

The 37% Approval rating is just another reason to walk to the compromise table.

Obama is just delaying the inevitable. He already lost.

Gene Sperling let the cat out of the bag.

So, you, Boehner, Cruz and the the rest of the Republican Party are quite happy with China and Japan deciding what is legal and constitutional in America?

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I don't know if you realize it yet but Speaker Boehner and Senator Ted Cruz are headed for a major victory.

They have new allies - China and Japan -. Obama is getting pushed to the compromise table.

The 37% Approval rating is just another reason to walk to the compromise table.

Obama is just delaying the inevitable. He already lost.

Gene Sperling let the cat out of the bag.

Ken, who would really lose? Obama can't run for a third term. 62% of Americans blame the republicans for the shutdown. Congressional elections next year. Who really lost Ken? Do you think the sour republican taste will be out of the mouths of Americans come election time? Or do you think this will be enough to get the majority in the house? So lets say Obamacare does get delayed for a year. I think there is a VERY good chance the democrats will have the house and the senate next year thanks to the little republican circus going on. Who really wins Ken? Even IF the republicans win the battle...well...you know how the saying goes.

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So, you, Boehner, Cruz and the the rest of the Republican Party are quite happy with China and Japan deciding what is legal and constitutional in America?

Yes!

It is what it is!

Putin, China and Japan are revealing Obama incompetence.

The United States MUST pay the interest on the U.S. Treasury Notes and Bonds.

They have clear leverage over Obama. We handed it to them by living the nation beyond its means.

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Yes!

It is what it is!

Putin, China and Japan are revealing Obama incompetence.

The United States MUST pay the interest on the U.S. Treasury Notes and Bonds.

They have clear leverage over Obama. We handed it to them by living the nation beyond its means.

I thought that teabagpartiers were patriots?

Or is that a lie too?

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Ken, who would really lose? Obama can't run for a third term. 62% of Americans blame the republicans for the shutdown. Congressional elections next year. Who really lost Ken? Do you think the sour republican taste will be out of the mouths of Americans come election time? Or do you think this will be enough to get the majority in the house? So lets say Obamacare does get delayed for a year. I think there is a VERY good chance the democrats will have the house and the senate next year thanks to the little republican circus going on. Who really wins Ken? Even IF the republicans win the battle...well...you know how the saying goes.

I look at who WINS.

The American people win when the Individual Mandate is Drop Kicked for 1 Year.

The ObamaCare Website is a bug ridden piece of garbage anyway. Start over from scratch and try again. You have 1 year to get it right.

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Yes!

It is what it is!

Putin, China and Japan are revealing Obama incompetence.

The United States MUST pay the interest on the U.S. Treasury Notes and Bonds.

They have clear leverage over Obama. We handed it to them by living the nation beyond its means.

I don't think you appreciated the thrust of my post, but I put that down to your blinkered political views. "Obama caving in" is not the only solution to the demands of the Chinese, but it is the only solution which requires America to rescind a perfectly legal and constitutional piece of legislation to achieve the debt repayment. The other solution, which does not require America to grant extra-legal authority to the Chinese, is for the Republicans to sign off a CR budget, put this fiasco behind them, and start being the actual opposition the country needs, rather than simply playing to the Party needs.

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I thought that teabagpartiers were patriots?

Or is that a lie too?

In addition to being patriotic, we are also - financially responsible -.

Putin, China and Japan have made Obama look like a child.

Don't blame the Tea Party.

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In addition to being patriotic, we are also - financially responsible -.

Putin, China and Japan have made Obama look like a child.

Don't blame the Tea Party.

Well, the type of conservative I am thinks that cheering on those who mean harm to the country is treason. You may call it whatever you want.

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I don't think you appreciated the thrust of my post, but I put that down to your blinkered political views. "Obama caving in" is not the only solution to the demands of the Chinese, but it is the only solution which requires America to rescind a perfectly legal and constitutional piece of legislation to achieve the debt repayment. The other solution, which does not require America to grant extra-legal authority to the Chinese, is for the Republicans to sign off a CR budget, put this fiasco behind them, and start being the actual opposition the country needs, rather than simply playing to the Party needs.

It's not a repeal of ObamaCare. It is simply a 1 Year Drop Kick.

The ObamaCare website is a disaster anyway. You have 1 year to fix it.

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Well, the type of conservative I am thinks that cheering on those who mean harm to the country is treason. You may call it whatever you want.

We sold them the U.S. Treasury Notes. - Honor the agreement and pay the interest due -.

Treason ???

What harm?

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