UM-Bot Posted October 24, 2013 #1 Share Posted October 24, 2013 An international team of astronomers has detected a galaxy that is 30 billion light years away. The galaxy was found using the Hubble Space Telescope and then later confirmed through the Keck Observatory in Hawaii. At 13. 1 billion years old the galaxy\'s distance in light years is much greater than its age due to the expansion of the universe. Read More: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/256764/astronomers-find-most-distant-galaxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted October 24, 2013 #2 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Something doesn't make sense in this claim speaking of deduction of years, distance age...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted October 24, 2013 #3 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It's because the universe is expanding (or at least getting less dense with more space between objects) so that an object that seems 13 billion light years away is really by now much further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeGelatin Posted October 24, 2013 #4 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I call Bull ****... That is the farthest they could find... But, I know in my heart of hearts that the universe has no ending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolci Posted October 24, 2013 #5 Share Posted October 24, 2013 "something doesn't make sense" is so vague, it's on the verge of not making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted October 24, 2013 #6 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Something doesn't make sense in this claim speaking of deduction of years, distance age...etc Makes sense to me. Of course I accept the universe is expanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skithia Posted October 24, 2013 #7 Share Posted October 24, 2013 still think 30 billion light years is a bit far in a universe only 13.8 billion years old lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imrunningthismonkeyfarm Posted October 24, 2013 #8 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It's quite far away then!! If light travels at the speed of light then how does a telescope see something that far away when the light takes 30 billion years to get to the lense? Could someone explain it (in layman's terms) because I'm finding it difficult to take in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 24, 2013 #9 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I was giving off light on the way. Simple enough? Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. K. Posted October 24, 2013 #10 Share Posted October 24, 2013 What is the velocity of the expansion of the universe, and has the center of the universe been located using red/blue shift measurements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacenut56 Posted October 24, 2013 #11 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Saw it. Pretty amazing. This story is all over the web today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 24, 2013 #12 Share Posted October 24, 2013 What is the velocity of the expansion of the universe, and has the center of the universe been located using red/blue shift measurements? The entire universe is expanding. There is no center. In fact, the idea of a center would be counter to the concept of relativity in that it would give us a reference point that was immobile and thus we would be able to measure all velocities against it - allowing the existence of absolute velocity. If such a concept were true, then relativity experiments would not reveal what they have revealed. Regarding the expansion velocity, there is none. There is a rate of expansion. How "fast" an object appears to recede from us depends on how much expanding space exists between that object and ourselves. Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resh Posted October 25, 2013 #13 Share Posted October 25, 2013 still think 30 billion light years is a bit far in a universe only 13.8 billion years old lol My thoughts exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted October 25, 2013 #14 Share Posted October 25, 2013 People are thinking about this wrong. The AGE of the universe is 13.798 ± 0.037 billion years. This is not the same as the diameter of the observable universe (what we can see from earth) due to the expansion of space, which we now know is accelerating. The diameter of the observable universe is estimated at 93 billion light years, making it roughly 46-47 billion years in each direction that we look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted October 25, 2013 #15 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Perhaps this Galaxy is where the "Gods" reside. There are bound to be Earth Like Planets Google of years old and in that time frame a Civilization should of developed and traveled here if they don't blow them selves up first like we eventually will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skithia Posted October 25, 2013 #16 Share Posted October 25, 2013 People are thinking about this wrong. The AGE of the universe is 13.798 ± 0.037 billion years. This is not the same as the diameter of the observable universe (what we can see from earth) due to the expansion of space, which we now know is accelerating. The diameter of the observable universe is estimated at 93 billion light years, making it roughly 46-47 billion years in each direction that we look. If something was 30 billion light years away we would be seeing it now as it was 30 billion years ago - but the whole universe is apparently only 13.8 billion years old soooooooo the light from this galaxy started travelling 16-17 billion years before the universe formed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skithia Posted October 25, 2013 #17 Share Posted October 25, 2013 to be clear it may be that far away - having gone off in the opposite direction to the direction we have expanded in - but that 30 billion light years away galaxy is not what we see - what we see is what that galaxy was like 13.1 billion years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted October 25, 2013 #18 Share Posted October 25, 2013 If the universe is expanding and we are getting farther away (from where, other galaxy's ?)how is it forecast that the Andromeda galaxy will collide with the Milky Way galaxy.What are these people trying to prove,pehaps it would be far better if they turned their attention towards planets that we could live on in the future,and unless we come up with how to solve long time space travel no one is going to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted October 25, 2013 #19 Share Posted October 25, 2013 If something was 30 billion light years away we would be seeing it now as it was 30 billion years ago - but the whole universe is apparently only 13.8 billion years old soooooooo the light from this galaxy started travelling 16-17 billion years before the universe formed? You're not. The article states the light is 13.1 billion years old. Based on the redshift they've calculated the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted October 25, 2013 #20 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Andromeda is in our local group where random movements overcome the overall expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex540 Posted October 25, 2013 #21 Share Posted October 25, 2013 or how i wonder how can people discover a galaxy 30 billion light years away whilist its 30 BILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAYA!!!!! Bloody liars. impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted October 25, 2013 #22 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I would point out that what we see is what the galaxy was over thirteen billion years ago. It has no doubt since done a lot of things, like more than likely been absorbed into other galaxies. It has also in the interim moved quite aways further from us, as we have also from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted October 25, 2013 #23 Share Posted October 25, 2013 People are thinking about this wrong. The AGE of the universe is 13.798 ± 0.037 billion years. This is not the same as the diameter of the observable universe (what we can see from earth) due to the expansion of space, which we now know is accelerating. The diameter of the observable universe is estimated at 93 billion light years, making it roughly 46-47 billion years in each direction that we look. Observable being the key here. As we improve the technology, there will one day come a time we can see no farther into the Universe, that being beyond the farthest distance light has traveled from its source to the earth. Beyond that we can only make educated guesses but no direct observations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted October 25, 2013 #24 Share Posted October 25, 2013 or how i wonder how can people discover a galaxy 30 billion light years away whilist its 30 BILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAYA!!!!! Bloody liars. impossible Obviously you didn't read the article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Merton Posted October 25, 2013 #25 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Obviously you didn't read the article. And quite a few other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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