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Still Waters

Can animals make real music?

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Still Waters

What do you get if you give musical instruments to a group of elephants? Just a loud noise, or an orchestra? One elephant ensemble in Thailand demonstrates - according to its creators - that animals can really make music.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-24400364

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The Id3al Experience

Define 'real' music?

However, cool story :) I love how intelligent elephants are. Such beautiful beasts

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travelnjones

Dude don't you have Meddle? Seamus

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imrunningthismonkeyfarm

My dog makes music while wagging her tail! More of a beat really but it sounds good & if you was to put it through a syntheziser & add a few other dog or animal sounds I can't see how you wouldn't consider that to be music!! Also, birds sing all kinds of beautiful songs & when you think about it, they are related to dinosaurs in which case they would be amongst the earliest of music making creatures on the planet!

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lightly

^ Yup, a lot of bird songs are 'musical' .. if we can describe music as pleasing sounds in pleasing patterns .

Some Classical music pieces seem to have borrowed sequences of notes from bird songs.

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Likely Guy

Whales sing.

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Eldorado

The House of the Rising Sun was pretty good.

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Frank Merton

As with whales singing, there are two pitfalls in this kind of thinking. One is stretching the definition of "music" so as to include things that really are something else (animals vocalize for many reasons) and the other is anthropomorphizing into animals things we do.

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lightly

I think humans copied animal sounds and the human heartbeat the result evolved into what we call music.

I can imagine a cave mother making soothing humming sounds to her baby in time to it's heartbeat.

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Frank Merton

Human music comes from the whistle of the wind, the rustle of the leaves, the rumble of the thunder, the splashing of the waves and the "bubbling" of the brook, the galloping of horses and howl of wolves and of course the heartbeat we hear in our ears as we fall asleep.

It is just that human music is still something else entirely. Especially Western serious music. By coincidence earlier this evening I spent over an hour concentratedly listening to Shostakovitch's Seventh Symphony, and in the process "remembered" Stalin (although I don't know if the composer intended that, I suspect so -- at any rate sounds of a very human period of history).

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