Time Magazine : Mark Halperin : Death Panels

[CyberKen]

With the ObamaCare November 30th deadline looming, liberals are jumping ship.

"Death Panels will be a major issue this election year. Yes, they are real. It is baked into the plan ( ObamaCare )."

It looks like Gov. Sarah Palin was right !

http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/mark-halperin-obamacare-death-panels/2013/11/25/id/538565

Edited November 27, 2013 by CyberKen

[CyberKen]

This Video makes a lot of sense.

[CyberKen]

Damage Control kicked in over at the White House!

Time Magazine Mark Halperin got yelled at ! He then tried in vain to tweet his way out of this mess (telling the truth).

I think Mark Halperin just gave us all President Sarah Palin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1PGLyT694c

[RavenHawk]

I wonder when we will hear Obama claim, "If you like your euthanasia, you can keep your euthanasia”? How long will Ninjadude continue to say there are no death panels? But this is that other shoe waiting to fall (in time for the mid terms?).

[CyberKen]

I wonder when we will hear Obama claim, "If you like your euthanasia, you can keep your euthanasia"? How long will Ninjadude continue to say there are no death panels? But this is that other shoe waiting to fall (in time for the mid terms?).

The choice is clear.

Gov. Sarah Palin told the truth.

Obama lied about the Death Panels, keeping our doctors and keeping our health care plans.

Vote against the guy who deceived us. Do not reward that kind of behavior.

President Sarah Palin moves into the White House January 2017.

[lightly]

President Sarah Palin moves into the White House January 2017.

Your kidding right?

[+and-then]

Your kidding right?

It IS pretty unbelievable but the point is that even she would make a better president than he is.

[Rafterman]

They've been in there since day one. They just weren't formally called "death panels" and that's how the supportes spun it.

Of course there are "death panels" that's the only way to make the books balance. We can't have 95-year-olds getting procedures that cost tens of thousands of dollars to prolonge their lives 1-2 more years.

Just like we have to have millions of healthy young people paying for coverage they won't need.

[Startraveler]

They've been in there since day one. They just weren't formally called "death panels" and that's how the supportes spun it.

No, they haven't. Palin's fantasy that some body was created in front of which her baby with Downs would be hauled so that its "level of productivity in society" could be judged has always been just that: a bizarre rightwing fantasy.

[ninjadude]

With regard to IPAB's recommendations, the law says "The proposal shall not include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums under section 1818, 1818A, or 1839, increase Medicare beneficiary cost sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co-payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria."^[10] The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) must implement these proposals unless Congress adopts equally effective alternatives. The board is also required to submit to Congress annual reports on health care costs, access, quality, and utilization. IPAB must submit to Congress recommendations on how to slow the growth in total private health care expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Payment_Advisory_Board

Is that clear enough for the neocons on this board? Probably not. When faced with facts they tend to go off into other fantasies.

[CyberKen]

https://en.wikipedia..._Advisory_Board

Is that clear enough for the neocons on this board? Probably not. When faced with facts they tend to go off into other fantasies.

The guy talking on the right side of the video explains the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

You have fallen victim to the subterfuge.

Listen to the entire video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1PGLyT694c

Hint: Mark Halperin had it right the first time.

[CyberKen]

They've been in there since day one. They just weren't formally called "death panels" and that's how the supportes spun it.

Of course there are "death panels" that's the only way to make the books balance. We can't have 95-year-olds getting procedures that cost tens of thousands of dollars to prolonge their lives 1-2 more years.

Just like we have to have millions of healthy young people paying for coverage they won't need.

We should not have Death Panels making these decisions .

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It appears that Mark Halperin is having a hard time trying to unring a bell. - Death Panels are real. -

[+and-then]

They've been in there since day one. They just weren't formally called "death panels" and that's how the supportes spun it.

Of course there are "death panels" that's the only way to make the books balance. We can't have 95-year-olds getting procedures that cost tens of thousands of dollars to prolonge their lives 1-2 more years.

Just like we have to have millions of healthy young people paying for coverage they won't need.

The scenario you mention of 95 year olds being given very expensive care has come about along with very unnecessary medical tests, as a result of our tort oriented culture. I wonder why tort reform was completely missing in this grand adventure?

[CyberKen]

The scenario you mention of 95 year olds being given very expensive care has come about along with very unnecessary medical tests, as a result of our tort oriented culture. I wonder why tort reform was completely missing in this grand adventure?

Obama left out Tort Reform from ObamaCare because he is in bed with the trial lawyers.

[aztek]

population control.

too bad it does not remove those that need to be removed.

[CyberKen]

population control.

too bad it does not remove those that need to be removed.

That will take place November 2014. - Americans will turn out for their Protest Votes to be counted. -

[Startraveler]

The scenario you mention of 95 year olds being given very expensive care has come about along with very unnecessary medical tests, as a result of our tort oriented culture. I wonder why tort reform was completely missing in this grand adventure?

It wasn't. Tort reform language from GOP bills was included. The GOP House has curiously failed to fund that portion of the law.

[CyberKen]

It wasn't. Tort reform language from GOP bills was included. The GOP House has curiously failed to fund that portion of the law.

ObamaCare Tort Reform is a joke. Everybody in Washington D.C. knows Obama is in bed with the trial lawyers.

Even Democrat Howard Dean admitted it.

- Seek The Truth -

[preacherman76]

I dont even understand the confusion. 0bama striaght said grandma was better off taking pain meds then getting a operation that could save, or prolong her life. Its obvious that someone will be making those decisions. Thats a death panel. Its always been out in the open.

[CyberKen]

I dont even understand the confusion. 0bama striaght said grandma was better off taking pain meds then getting a operation that could save, or prolong her life. Its obvious that someone will be making those decisions. Thats a death panel. Its always been out in the open.

Yes but now the Death Panels have been confirmed by Mark Halperin.

"It's built into the plan ( ObamaCare )."

He soon got flamed by Left Wing Loons and tried frantically to put the genie back into the bottle but it was too late.

Eventually, Mark Halperin decided to hide behind Dem. Howard Dean " The iPAB is essentially a health care rationing body."

The iPAB will set the rates for each procedure.

If the iPAB does not want money wasted on an 80 year old, then a hip replacement payment could be reduced to $50.

At that low rate no doctor or hospital will perform the operation. That is how it works.

Give them a pain pill and send them home. - Rationing -

To hide that truth, the liberals are throwing out a large subterfuge. "The doctors are to blame!"

"The iPAB is 100% innocent!"

[ninjadude]

The iPAB will set the rates for each procedure.

No Ken, for the hundredth time. They cannot do that. By law.

[CyberKen]

No Ken, for the hundredth time. They cannot do that. By law.

Yes, they can. Just ask Mark Halperin.

"It's baked into the plan. ( ObamaCare)"

That is how they will reduce costs. Pull the plug on grandma.

[Agent0range]

Yes, they can. Just ask Mark Halperin.

"It's baked into the plan. ( ObamaCare)"

That is how they will reduce costs. Pull the plug on grandma.

Just ask Mark Halperin? You must not follow him on Twitter. He did a complete 180. Another worthless thread courtesy of Ken...

[CyberKen]

Just ask Mark Halperin? You must not follow him on Twitter. He did a complete 180. Another worthless thread courtesy of Ken...

Well, not really.

Yes, Mark got yelled at but then just retreated to hide behind Democrat Howard Dean:

"The iPAB is essentially a health care rationing body."