[Merged] Aspartame made using sewage?

[thunkerdrone]

The farmer won in court by proving that the thallium in the fertilizer poisoned his cows. They found it in his soil, the experts the farmer hired to run the tests

QUOTE

In 1979, a Georgia dairyman named Andy McElmurray started applying locally produced sludge fertilizer to his fields. Over the next several years, nearly half his 700 cows died from severe diarrhea. The EPA didn't test his soil, but McElmurray hired his own experts, who concluded that his sludge had contained high levels of thallium. A toxic metal that is the active ingredient in rat poison, thallium rarely turns up in sewage, but it was used as a catalyst by a nearby NutraSweet factory. When McElmurray's experts sampled a local milk brand, they detected thallium at levels more than 11 times above the legal limit for drinking water.

McElmurray sued the federal government for disaster relief, claiming sludge had destroyed his farm. He finally won the case last year. "I believe that if the farmer knew the truth, he would never put sludge on his farmland," he says. "It's all a smoke-and-mirrors game that the EPA has played." His view was echoed by the federal judge who ruled in his favor, finding that "senior EPA officials took extraordinary steps to quash scientific dissent and any questioning of the EPA's biosolids program."

Edited January 6, 2014 by thunkerdrone

[stereologist]

The farmer won in court by proving that the thallium in the fertilizer poisoned his cows. They found it in his soil, the experts the farmer hired to run the tests

QUOTE

In 1979, a Georgia dairyman named Andy McElmurray started applying locally produced sludge fertilizer to his fields. Over the next several years, nearly half his 700 cows died from severe diarrhea. The EPA didn't test his soil, but McElmurray hired his own experts, who concluded that his sludge had contained high levels of thallium. A toxic metal that is the active ingredient in rat poison, thallium rarely turns up in sewage, but it was used as a catalyst by a nearby NutraSweet factory. When McElmurray's experts sampled a local milk brand, they detected thallium at levels more than 11 times above the legal limit for drinking water.

McElmurray sued the federal government for disaster relief, claiming sludge had destroyed his farm. He finally won the case last year. "I believe that if the farmer knew the truth, he would never put sludge on his farmland," he says. "It's all a smoke-and-mirrors game that the EPA has played." His view was echoed by the federal judge who ruled in his favor, finding that "senior EPA officials took extraordinary steps to quash scientific dissent and any questioning of the EPA's biosolids program."

You were asked to provide evidence. Here you have reposted a spam article that has been reposted at a number of dubious places on the internet. Please post actual documentation and not unsubstantiated rumor that appears to be hoax spam.

You also need to post the link from which you got this baloney.

Here is an article which appears to be true unlike the junk you posted.

http://www.thewatchers.us/sludge-hearing-georgia.html

This article points out that the issue was heavy metals in sludge and has nothing to do with aspartame or any company making food additives.

Here is another article about the same farmer. Again nothign about aspartame.

https://sites.google.com/site/nosludgedumping/court-decision---200-dead-georgia-cattle

In this article it mentions thallium, which is used in rat poison. Other materials mentioned in the article are "cadmium, molybdenum and chlordane." Again, nothign to do with aspartame or any food additive.

Comapnaies distributing the biosolids are listed.

Companies like Nutri-Blend and Synagro are paid by cities, towns and counties to transport and apply biosolids to permitted farmland in accordance with local, federal and state regulations.

Looks like you were duped by Mother Jones or whatever hoax site you quoted.

[thunkerdrone]

video:

Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Monte about Methanol and Aspartame

[stereologist]

So after posting a complete failure you are onto the next big failure.

The story about the dairy farm and the waste treatment plant was a false story.

Your next false story is the methanol aspartame link.

When are you going to do some actual research and stop posting false stories?

[ChrLzs]

A couple of tips, thunker..

1. When you pretend to answer a request, do READ the request and then REPLY to what was REQUESTED..

Here's the request again:

Please post a citation showing who 'they' were and how they determined that link to the refinement of Aspartame.

Your 'quote' gives no evidence of that whatsoever.

2. When you 'quote' - PROVIDE CITATION. Perhaps you don't understand? That means tell us, by link or publication details, where the 'quote' comes from. Not to do so is not only ignorant and rude, it can be viewed as a copyright breach.

3. Don't make stuff up (also known as 'lying'). In your answer' the very first thing you claimed was this:

The farmer won in court by proving that the thallium in the fertilizer poisoned his cows.

Hogwash. That's a complete misrepresentation of the outcome. It is a very complex case, but to give you an idea, *cadmium* is mentioned in the court notes 13 times, and *molybdenum* 10 times - thallium? just 3 times... It was all about multiple heavy metal and other organic compounds causing polluted soil. Aspartame isn't mentioned anywhere in the case, and as thallium comes from numerous sources, your twisted statement is a deliberate misrepresentation and a completely unwarranted fabrication. Here's the case notes ('Leagle' website, McELMURRAY v. U.S. DEPT. OF AGRICULTURE) for anyone to check - feel free, thunker to post the bit that says it was all about thallium... Then move on to find the bits about Aspartame - oh wait, I forgot - it isn't mentioned at all...

By the way, see what I did there - that's a citation...

As for posting Youtube links with no comments of your own.. How lazy are you planning to get?

Oh well, I guess it's somehow apt - you are posting sewage..

Edited January 6, 2014 by ChrLzs

[thunkerdrone]

The reason that I suspect that farmer Andy McElmurray's sewage sludge may have been coming directly from the Nutrasweet plant/Nitrogen fertilizer plant is due to the high concentrations of thallium which would have to be in the sludge.

Nutrasweet is said to have regularly dumped its thallium catalyst into the Augusta sewer system, but considering that

thallium flushed into the general system would have been diluted into the larger sewage volumes, how could it have

have been present in volumes high enough to poison milk? For thallium to even makes its way into milk,

it is not a simple process or a direct path. It is quite convoluted a path.

As mentioned before , the thallium which Nutrasweet occasionally flushed into the Augusta sewage system

would have been diluted into the larger sewage volumes. After the thallium-diluted sludge is collected for use as fertilizer

the sewage sludge is itself diluted through mixture into regular soil and through rain runoff etc. (the feed crops are

not grown in pure sewage sludge, they are grown in soil which is fertilized with only a % of sewage sludge)

Then this diluted sewage sludge soil must still contain , even after three dilution processes,

enough Thallium to be not just absorbed by the feed crops which are fertilized with it, but absorbed in high enough concentrations to present a tainted supply of feed crops. Which indicates the soil in which the feed crops were grown contained significant

concentrations of thallium.

Then , the concentration of the thallium now present in the feed crops has to be high

enough that when the animals eat it, it is not only absorbed by the animals in high concentrations, but concentrations

high enough to bypass the animals natural purification processes and find its way down the long path into the milk

of the animal.

Yet after all this, they found still thallium at levels exceeding EPA's safe drinking water standards in the milk from

Andy McElmurray's cows.

Andy McElmurray was a dairy farmer in Georgia. The City of Augusta "invited him" to apply their sewage sludge on his fields, where he grew forage crops to feed his cows, and assured him it was safe. He applied sewage sludge to his fields from 1979 until 1990. So did Bill Boyce, the dairy farmer next door to McElmurray. So far so good.

What the two farmers didn't know was that the City of Augusta never enforced what little laws there are around the contents of sewage sludge. Specifically, the EPA regulates 9 heavy metals and fecal coliform. That's it. Out of thousands of possible chemicals that find their way into sewage sludge (often from industrial waste), the government only regulates 10, and Augusta couldn't even manage to do that.

In theory, using human waste as fertilizer could be a good idea. The Chinese did it for centuries. But sewage sludge contains a lot more than human waste. It also contains industrial waste. In McElmurray's case, there was a Nutrasweet plant nearby dumping high quantities of thallium, a rat poison toxic to humans in very small doses, down the drain, and the thallium was present in the sludge. Thallium, by the way, is NOT one of the chemicals regulated by the EPA in sewage sludge.

Over the years, both the McElmurray family and the Boyce family noticed their soil became more and more acidic.

QUOTE

http://www.sourcewat...ex.php/Thallium

Andy McElmurray, Testimony Before U.S. Congress,

Although thallium is not often found in high concentrations in sewage sludge, it is also not regulated in the United States for sewage sludge applied to land. Thus, it was fully legal for a wastewater treatment plant to provide Georgia dairy farmer Andy McElmurray with sewage sludge tainted with thallium to spread on his fields. The source of the thallium was a Nutrasweet plant. McElmurray grew forage for his cattle and then sold their milk. Once McElmurray's cows began dying and the sewage sludge was identified as the source of the problem, scientists collected milk samples from the farm and from grocery stores in Georgia and surrounding states to test them for contaminants. In the milk, they found thallium at levels exceeding EPA's safe drinking water standards.^[9]

Edited January 6, 2014 by thunkerdrone

[badeskov]

...

When are you going to do some actual research and stop posting false stories?

Sadly, I think I know the answer to that one.....

Henrik

[thunkerdrone]

The reason that I suspect that farmer Andy McElmurray's sewage sludge may have been coming directly from the Nutrasweet plant/Nitrogen fertilizer plant is due to the high concentrations of thallium which would have to be in the sludge.

Nutrasweet is said to have regularly dumped its thallium catalyst into the Augusta sewer system, but considering that

thallium flushed into the general system would have been diluted into the larger sewage volumes, how could it have

have been present in volumes high enough to poison milk? For thallium to even makes its way into milk,

it is not a simple process or a direct path. It is quite convoluted a path.

As mentioned before , the thallium which Nutrasweet occasionally flushed into the Augusta sewage system

would have been diluted into the larger sewage volumes. After the thallium-diluted sludge is collected for use as fertilizer

the sewage sludge is itself diluted through mixture into regular soil and through rain runoff etc. (the feed crops are

not grown in pure sewage sludge, they are grown in soil which is fertilized with only a % of sewage sludge)

Then this diluted sewage sludge soil must still contain , even after three dilution processes,

enough Thallium to be not just absorbed by the feed crops which are fertilized with it, but absorbed in high enough concentrations to present a tainted supply of feed crops. Which indicates the soil in which the feed crops were grown contained significant

concentrations of thallium.

Then , the concentration of the thallium now present in the feed crops has to be high

enough that when the animals eat it, it is not only absorbed by the animals in high concentrations, but concentrations

high enough to bypass the animals natural purification processes and find its way down the long path into the milk

of the animal.

Yet after all this, they found still thallium at levels exceeding EPA's safe drinking water standards in the milk from

Andy McElmurray's cows.

My theory is that there werre too many dilutions and diversions involved for the Thallium to have found its

way into the dairy's soil, then feed, then milk supply in such high concentrations via the purported channels.

What might make more sense is that the Thallium tainted sewage sludge may have gone almost directly from

the Nutrasweet plan to McElmurray's dairy from , after being treated with Thallium. This may offer a more convincing explanation for

such apparently large, undiluted amounts of Thallium present in the sludge.

Nutrasweet are growing massive volumes of E-coli bacteria at their plant and collecting the phenylalanine excreted by those bacteria.

So, how are they cost-effectively cultivating these large volumes of e-coli ?

It would make sense to feed these E-coli on the free sewage/feces from the toilets of the ghettos of Augusta, Georgia.

It would also make sense that Nutrasweet would use a hot , humid and already smelly city like Augusta to locate their

sewage swamps in. Georgia is a swampy area which would save Nutrasweet the cost of heating/incubating its E-coli,

and the stinky environs of Augusta, in particular, would help conceal such a large sort of poop-soup arrangement.

In general , my theory still seems plausible

Edited January 6, 2014 by thunkerdrone

[thunkerdrone]

So they were looking for an inhibitor of the gastrointestinal secretory hormone gastrin and in this search came up with Aspartame.

That part is sort of interesting . People consuming aspartame could be consuming something which inhibits proper digestion.

This inhibitor of digestion was made using the secretions of human strains of e-coli bacteria, as it appears that human sewage

could be genetically necessary to this manufacturing process.

So aspartame could be simulating, essentially , an infectious bowel disease which shuts down proper digestion.

quote:

Aspartame is made by combining phenylalanine, which is naturally produced by bacteria, with another amino acid. Monsanto has genetically engineered the bacteria to make them produce more phenylalanine.

quote:

Abilities of phenylalanine derivatives to inhibit gastric acid secretion

In the present study, we examine some phenylalanine derivatives to show their ability to inhibit gastrin-induced acid secretion in the rat in vivo and to compete for the binding of [¹²⁵I]-(Leu-15)-HG-17 to its cellular receptor on rabbit isolated gastric mucosal cells. N- and C- derivatives of phenylalanine were found to inhibit gastrin-induced acid secretion and binding of [¹²⁵I]-(Leu-15)-HG-17 to its mucosal cell receptors. By either criterion, the relative antagonistic potencies of the compounds, with minor differences between the in vivo and the in vitro experiments. These results demonstrate that both the nature of the amino acid residue and the N- and C- substitutions are important in determining antagonist activity and affinity for gastrin receptors.

Keywords

• Gastric acid secretion;
  
• Phenylalanine;
  

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The following indicates that anything which inhibits gastric acid, leading to Hypochlorhydria (low level of gastric [hydrochloric] acid disorder), also acts as an immune system inhibitor:

QUOTE

Stomach acid is a crucial part of the immune system. The acid barrier of the stomach during normal states of health easily and quickly kills bacteria and other bugs that enter the body. It also prevents bacteria from the intestines from migrating up and colonizing the stomach.

Appropriate stomach acid levels are crucial for our immune system.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So it looks like Aspartame , in addition to causing brain damage, could also inhibit a huge part of the immune system.

re: So aspartame could be simulating, essentially , an infectious bowel disease which shuts down proper digestion.

Very interesting, indeed. After I saw this posted, I looked into bowel diseases linked to Hypochlorhydria and found this:

Hypochlorhydria [ low stomach acid ] is linked to other diseases like stomach cancer, asthma and rheumatoid arthritis. It’s a serious problem that needs to be investigated. If you’re having symptoms such as acid reflux, heartburn, burping, gas, bloating, or nausea, after eating then it’s very likely that you have a low stomach acid issue.

People diagnosed with gastrointestinal issues, especially inflammatory bowel diseases, Celiac Disease or Irritable Bowel Syndrome are at a higher risk of having Hypochlorhydia.

So people with Celiac disease and irritable bowels & other smelly gas issues etc. also likely have a high risk of compromised immunity due to hypochlorydia.

The acidity of the stomach and its ability to destroy infectious organisms is a huge part of human immunity to infectious illnesses.

Aspartame seems to be right in there in the thick of it all. E-coli secreting phenylalanine (which suppresses gastric acid production)

sounds very similar to some sort of smelly bowel syndrome which suppresses gastric acid production. Lowered immunity, which

means more infectious organisms getting into the bowels to cause diarrhea and infections. Smelly as hell. And its all going on in

Augusta. Like some sort of vicious Augusta toilet cycle/circle. Imagine this place, full of irritable people addicted to drinking Diet Coke and eating

aspartame sweetened diet wheat biscuits, living in a hot sweltering neighborhood a smelly e-coli swamp, running to the toilet with alternate diarrhea,

then constipation due to celiac disease , the laxatives producing more diarrhea, and not even knowing that their own feces is being used

to brew up another dose of Asspartame in the nearby e-coli swamps. Then the fluoride in the cola and local water attacks their thyroid glands, suppressing their metabolism and causing massive weight gain, and pushing them to grab Diet pop by the caseload along with bulk toilet paper purchases from the local Walmart. Then the carbonated nature of the aspartame soda adds to gas and bloating issues. What mess.

I bet the Walmarts in Augusta are some of the largest, hottest, most humid , overcrowded and smelliest Walmarts in America.

Edited January 6, 2014 by thunkerdrone

[Daughter of the Nine Moons]

Why are you quoting yourself?

[frenat]

My theory is that there werre too many dilutions and diversions involved for the Thallium to have found its

way into the dairy's soil, then feed, then milk supply in such high concentrations via the purported channels.

What might make more sense is that the Thallium tainted sewage sludge may have gone almost directly from

the Nutrasweet plan to McElmurray's dairy from , after being treated with Thallium. This may offer a more convincing explanation for

such apparently large, undiluted amounts of Thallium present in the sludge.

Nutrasweet are growing massive volumes of E-coli bacteria at their plant and collecting the phenylalanine excreted by those bacteria.

So, how are they cost-effectively cultivating these large volumes of e-coli ?

It would make sense to feed these E-coli on the free sewage/feces from the toilets of the ghettos of Augusta, Georgia.

It would also make sense that Nutrasweet would use a hot , humid and already smelly city like Augusta to locate their

sewage swamps in. Georgia is a swampy area which would save Nutrasweet the cost of heating/incubating its E-coli,

and the stinky environs of Augusta, in particular, would help conceal such a large sort of poop-soup arrangement.

In general , my theory still seems plausible

Until you realize that they are subject to FDA inspections yearly as well as EMA (European equivalent of FDA if any of it is sold in Europe) and multiple other agencies. Given that, you have no theory.

[thunkerdrone]

you obviously misinterpreted my meaning. I was not implying that Nutrasweet were hiding the poop soup from

the authorities.I meant that Nutrasweet could conceal the smelly and base nature of the operation from the

general, consumer public by setting up camp in Augusta, which was already , largely , a humid , stench-congested

hellhole long before Nutrasweet came to town. They would blend right in there in Augusta with all the hideously piggish

odors from the existing paper plant and sewage fertilizer operations, etc., already there.

The FDA already allows Nutrasweet to use the excretions of e-coli bacterial, and allow human feces to be put

all over food crops etc.

Edited January 7, 2014 by thunkerdrone

[badeskov]

Until you realize that they are subject to FDA inspections yearly as well as EMA (European equivalent of FDA if any of it is sold in Europe) and multiple other agencies. Given that, you have no theory.

Come to think of it, I cannot think of a single instance that he did. Not a single one.

Cheers,

Badeskov

[frenat]

you obviously misinterpreted my meaning. I was not implying that Nutrasweet were hiding the poop soup from

the authorities.I meant that Nutrasweet could conceal the smelly and base nature of the operation from the

general, consumer public by setting up camp in Augusta, which was already , largely , a humid , stench-congested

hellhole long before Nutrasweet came to town. They would blend right in there in Augusta with all the hideously piggish

odors from the existing paper plant and sewage fertilizer operations, etc., already there.

The FDA already allows Nutrasweet to use the excretions of e-coli bacterial, and allow human feces to be put

all over food crops etc.

But the FDA (and other agencies) would NOT allow human sewage used directly in the manufacture of a food item. I guarantee that they are manufacturing NutraSweet using a sterile method. You'd know that if you bothered to do any ACTUAL research.

[thunkerdrone]

scum to stink of it, keep trying, badeskov, don't give up now

[badeskov]

scum to stink of it, keep trying, badeskov, don't give up now

Give up on what?

Cheers,

Badeskov

[thunkerdrone]

If the final product is tested and found sterile , and no one manufacturing it is hurt either, why

would they be stopped?

the FDA allows the use of human feces in the production of food crops, as fertilizer sludge.

Of course Nutrasweet would use a sterile method for the final product, but they are already using

ecoli to produce that final product, aren't they. So could be nothing stopping them

from using e-coli in sewage form. Especially given the nature of the product itself. The true origins

and purpose of aspartame are questionable at best, so why assume the FDA has any say in this

at all now? The EPA has been opposed to forced water fluoridation for years if not decades, but in goes

the fluoride anyway. The Federal Reserve bank was created on Jekyl Island, Georgia. The Georgia

Guidestones are just 70 miles NW of Augusta, Georgia. My guess is that some pretty powerful people

are behind aspartame.

Found thisL

QUOTE

Monsanto and Procter&Gamble = same institutional owners

Take a look at this: P&G’s top shareholder is Vanguard, a mutual fund. It’s second top shareholder is State Street Corporation.

You can see this here:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=PG+Major+Holders

Now take a look at the top owners of Monsanto:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=MON+Major+Holders

You got it,they’re exactly the same! Vanguard and State Street.

P&G is also owned in large part by bailout banksters such as JP Morgan and Bank of America — the very banks who received trillions of dollars in bailout funds that will eventually have to be covered by American taxpayers.

Here’s another important connection between P&G and Monsanto:

Procter & Gamble’s CFO, Jon Moeller, is none other than the very same Jon Moeller who is also on the Board of Directors of Monsanto.

In addition, he’s on the Business Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. (http://www.naturalnews.com/files/pg_...io_moeller.pdf)

Original source:http://www.pg.com/en_US/downloads/company/executive_team/bios/pg_exec…

You can see here that he has traded in both P&G and Monsanto stock on a regular basis:http://biz.yahoo.com/t/56/7955.html

This page lists him as a “Director” with Monsanto, and an “Officer” with P&G.

Are you starting to connect the dots here?

[frenat]

If the final product is tested and found sterile , and no one manufacturing it is hurt either, why

would they be stopped?

the FDA allows the use of human feces in the production of food crops, as fertilizer sludge.

Of course Nutrasweet would use a sterile method for the final product, but they are already using

ecoli to produce that final product, aren't they. So could be nothing stopping them

from using e-coli in sewage form. Especially given the nature of the product itself. The true origins

and purpose of aspartame are questionable at best, so why assume the FDA has any say in this

at all now?

Have you actually bothered to do ANY actual research into the manufacture of NutraSweet? Or are you just going to continue begging the question? Or do you just like making yourself look foolish?

The EPA has been opposed to forced water fluoridation for years if not decades, but in goes

the fluoride anyway.

Irrelevant and off topic.

The Federal Reserve bank was created on Jekyl Island, Georgia.

Irrelevant and extremely off topic.

The Georgia Guidestones are just 70 miles NW of Augusta, Georgia. My guess is that some pretty powerful people

are behind aspartame.

Still irrelevant and still off topic. Not sure why anybody cares about the hippie stones anyway. I still think it is hilarious that anyone thinks the stones are supposed to mean anything when what is written on them conforms more to hippie ideals and since their erection NONE of what is written has taken place. Yet another baseless conspiracy theory.

[frenat]

Found thisL

QUOTE

Monsanto and Procter&Gamble = same institutional owners

Take a look at this: P&G’s top shareholder is Vanguard, a mutual fund. It’s second top shareholder is State Street Corporation.

You can see this here:

http://finance.yahoo...G Major Holders

Now take a look at the top owners of Monsanto:

http://finance.yahoo...N Major Holders

You got it,they’re exactly the same! Vanguard and State Street.

P&G is also owned in large part by bailout banksters such as JP Morgan and Bank of America — the very banks who received trillions of dollars in bailout funds that will eventually have to be covered by American taxpayers.

Here’s another important connection between P&G and Monsanto:

Procter & Gamble’s CFO, Jon Moeller, is none other than the very same Jon Moeller who is also on the Board of Directors of Monsanto.

In addition, he’s on the Business Advisory Council of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. (http://www.naturalne....io_moeller.pdf)

Original source:http://www.pg.com/en...pg_exec…

You can see here that he has traded in both P&G and Monsanto stock on a regular basis:http://biz.yahoo.com/t/56/7955.html

This page lists him as a “Director” with Monsanto, and an “Officer” with P&G.

Are you starting to connect the dots here?

That rich and successful people are often involved with multiple successful companies? Duh! How do you think they got successful in the first place? Still off topic and irrelevant.

[Likely Guy]

Thunkerdrone said,

"The Georgia Guidestones are just 70 miles NW of Augusta, Georgia. My guess is that some pretty powerful people

are behind aspartame."

WTF? Take some time and deconstruct that statement. It's probably one of the major reasons why you're not being taken seriously. And that's not cherry picking either, you leave a lot of gems like that out there.

[stereologist]

The reason that I suspect that farmer Andy McElmurray's sewage sludge may have been coming directly from the Nutrasweet plant/Nitrogen fertilizer plant is due to the high concentrations of thallium which would have to be in the sludge.

Nutrasweet is said to have regularly dumped its thallium catalyst into the Augusta sewer system, but considering that

thallium flushed into the general system would have been diluted into the larger sewage volumes, how could it have

have been present in volumes high enough to poison milk? For thallium to even makes its way into milk,

it is not a simple process or a direct path. It is quite convoluted a path.

As mentioned before , the thallium which Nutrasweet occasionally flushed into the Augusta sewage system

would have been diluted into the larger sewage volumes. After the thallium-diluted sludge is collected for use as fertilizer

the sewage sludge is itself diluted through mixture into regular soil and through rain runoff etc. (the feed crops are

not grown in pure sewage sludge, they are grown in soil which is fertilized with only a % of sewage sludge)

Then this diluted sewage sludge soil must still contain , even after three dilution processes,

enough Thallium to be not just absorbed by the feed crops which are fertilized with it, but absorbed in high enough concentrations to present a tainted supply of feed crops. Which indicates the soil in which the feed crops were grown contained significant

concentrations of thallium.

Then , the concentration of the thallium now present in the feed crops has to be high

enough that when the animals eat it, it is not only absorbed by the animals in high concentrations, but concentrations

high enough to bypass the animals natural purification processes and find its way down the long path into the milk

of the animal.

Yet after all this, they found still thallium at levels exceeding EPA's safe drinking water standards in the milk from

Andy McElmurray's cows.

QUOTE

You have nothing here but more false stories. You really need to learn how to differentiate the lies from reality.

You still have provided no evidence that the thallium originated from any food additive manufacturer let alone the aspartame manufacturer.

You have not shown that the thallium catalyst exists or is used.

Are you ever going to do actual research instead of posting false stories?

[stereologist]

My theory is that there werre too many dilutions and diversions involved for the Thallium to have found its

way into the dairy's soil, then feed, then milk supply in such high concentrations via the purported channels.

What might make more sense is that the Thallium tainted sewage sludge may have gone almost directly from

the Nutrasweet plan to McElmurray's dairy from , after being treated with Thallium. This may offer a more convincing explanation for

such apparently large, undiluted amounts of Thallium present in the sludge.

Nutrasweet are growing massive volumes of E-coli bacteria at their plant and collecting the phenylalanine excreted by those bacteria.

So, how are they cost-effectively cultivating these large volumes of e-coli ?

It would make sense to feed these E-coli on the free sewage/feces from the toilets of the ghettos of Augusta, Georgia.

It would also make sense that Nutrasweet would use a hot , humid and already smelly city like Augusta to locate their

sewage swamps in. Georgia is a swampy area which would save Nutrasweet the cost of heating/incubating its E-coli,

and the stinky environs of Augusta, in particular, would help conceal such a large sort of poop-soup arrangement.

In general , my theory still seems plausible

You have no theory. You have a mish mash of lies as the basis for your far fetched and wrong claim.

You really need to get out of your fantasy world and do some actual research.

[stereologist]

re: So aspartame could be simulating, essentially , an infectious bowel disease which shuts down proper digestion.

Very interesting, indeed. After I saw this posted, I looked into bowel diseases linked to Hypochlorhydria and found this:

So people with Celiac disease and irritable bowels & other smelly gas issues etc. also likely have a high risk of compromised immunity due to hypochlorydia.

The acidity of the stomach and its ability to destroy infectious organisms is a huge part of human immunity to infectious illnesses.

Aspartame seems to be right in there in the thick of it all. E-coli secreting phenylalanine (which suppresses gastric acid production)

sounds very similar to some sort of smelly bowel syndrome which suppresses gastric acid production. Lowered immunity, which

means more infectious organisms getting into the bowels to cause diarrhea and infections. Smelly as hell. And its all going on in

Augusta. Like some sort of vicious Augusta toilet cycle/circle. Imagine this place, full of irritable people addicted to drinking Diet Coke and eating

aspartame sweetened diet wheat biscuits, living in a hot sweltering neighborhood a smelly e-coli swamp, running to the toilet with alternate diarrhea,

then constipation due to celiac disease , the laxatives producing more diarrhea, and not even knowing that their own feces is being used

to brew up another dose of Asspartame in the nearby e-coli swamps. Then the fluoride in the cola and local water attacks their thyroid glands, suppressing their metabolism and causing massive weight gain, and pushing them to grab Diet pop by the caseload along with bulk toilet paper purchases from the local Walmart. Then the carbonated nature of the aspartame soda adds to gas and bloating issues. What mess.

I bet the Walmarts in Augusta are some of the largest, hottest, most humid , overcrowded and smelliest Walmarts in America.

I find it funny how you respond to your own previous litany of false stories. Quite humorous.

When you post falsehoods and then use them for the basis of even more gibberish you end up with nothing but biosolids which you have lavishly spread throughout the thread.

[ChrLzs]

they found still thallium at levels exceeding EPA's safe drinking water standards in the milk from

Andy McElmurray's cows

Twisting the truth again, thunkerdrone?

Apart from the fact that you STILL haven't shown us the actual report that gives all the contamination levels and a summary of how the tests were undertaken, please answer this DIRECT question:

Where did McElmurray's supposed 'experts' specifically find Thallium, thunkerdrone? Go on, read YOUR OWN SOURCES and CITE your answer...

[thunkerdrone]

Snoopy, I've already posted the link to Andy McElmurra's successful Testimony Before U.S. Congress,

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Although thallium is not often found in high concentrations in sewage sludge, it is also not regulated in the United States for sewage sludge applied to land. Thus, it was fully legal for a wastewater treatment plant to provide Georgia dairy farmer Andy McElmurray with sewage sludge tainted with thallium to spread on his fields. The source of the thallium was a Nutrasweet plant. McElmurray grew forage for his cattle and then sold their milk. Once McElmurray's cows began dying and the sewage sludge was identified as the source of the problem, scientists collected milk samples from the farm and from grocery stores in Georgia and surrounding states to test them for contaminants. In the milk, they found thallium at levels exceeding EPA's safe drinking water standards.^[9]

Edited January 7, 2014 by thunkerdrone