questionmark Posted December 31, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Secessionist movements are all the rage these days. A handful of counties in Colorado tried to secede from the rest of the state earlier this year. There's an attempt to create the State of Jefferson (northern California/southern Oregon) via ballot initiative in 2014. And there's plenty more. What would the U.S. look like if all of the secession movements in U.S. history had succeeded? Well, Mansfield University geography professor Andrew Shears built a map to answer that question. (It covers secession movements through the end of 2011.) His 124 states of America is below. Click the map to enlarge it. Read more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 31, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 31, 2013 That's kind of cool. I like how we would also have alot more of Mexico as states. I would live in Seattle, Columbia since there apparently would already have been a state called Washingtong back east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted December 31, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 31, 2013 i love fictional maps. there are still people who seriously want the u.p. to become a separate state. it fascinates me. even more interesting are the people who want the keweenaw to split off and become it's own state (or nation, even!) fortunately, there aren't too many of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted December 31, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 31, 2013 That's a neat map. Interesting how some states get kind of chopped up and others remain fairly untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted December 31, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted December 31, 2013 That's a neat map. Interesting how some states get kind of chopped up and others remain fairly untouched. now we would have to make a correlation of lunatics-and well balanced people to find an explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted December 31, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1 of the United States Constitutions reads: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted December 31, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1 of the United States Constitutions reads: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. Ptttht ninja, for being all factual and no-fun and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted December 31, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 31, 2013 woo Ohio gets chopped into three pieces . I personally have no problem with states getting split when the population wants it. It gives more local representation. As long as people don't go overboard and start making like every county a state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted December 31, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hmm, 124 states would be 148 more senators at $174,000 each. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted December 31, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 31, 2013 the wikipedia article on the state of superior isn't great, but it gives some info into this sort of thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_%28proposed_U.S._state%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted December 31, 2013 Author #11 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hmm, 124 states would be 148 more senators at $174,000 each. compared to the other federal Fraud Waste and Abuse just peanuts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 31, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well, your flag would get really crowded if you had 124 states (and therefore 124 stars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted January 1, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1 of the United States Constitutions reads: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Star Posted January 1, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 1, 2014 For those who have ears to hear, the maximum number of states possible for the USA is 56, the number of signers of the Declaration of Independence. So, we are closer to our full potential than people realize. Of course, our international enemies believe we have gone way beyond our legitimate potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaturtlehorsesnake Posted January 1, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 1, 2014 what? why? where do you get this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted January 1, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Well, your flag would get really crowded if you had 124 states (and therefore 124 stars). well, when the nation was very Young, they weren't sure how many stars were on the flag .. we could go with something along these lines instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted January 1, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 1, 2014 For those who have ears to hear, the maximum number of states possible for the USA is 56, the number of signers of the Declaration of Independence. So, we are closer to our full potential than people realize. Of course, our international enemies believe we have gone way beyond our legitimate potential. what? I question this number? why would it matter how many people signed the declaration of independence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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