+joc Posted January 3, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Kim Jong Un fed his uncle to 120 starving dogs: report Forget the hangman’s noose, the firing squad or lethal injection: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un executed his uncle and a handful of the man’s aides by feeding them to a horde of 120 starving dogs, according to a shocking account. Jang Song Thaek, the former No. 2 official in the secretive regime, was stripped naked and tossed into a cage along with his five closest aides. “Then 120 hounds, starved for three days, were allowed to prey on them until they were completely eaten up. This is called ‘quan jue’, or execution by dogs,” according to the Straits Times of Singapore. The daily relied on a description of the execution in a Hong Kong newspaper that serves as the official mouthpiece of China’s government. LINK My question is to Dennis Rodman: You still call this guy your friend? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted January 3, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) I wonder if that's true or if it's an invention to make those who would rebel fear him more? Edited January 3, 2014 by OverSword 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 3, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I wonder if that's true or if it's an invention to make those who would rebel fear him more? Who knows what's true in this age of misinformation. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted January 3, 2014 #4 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I wonder if that's true or if it's an invention to make those who would rebel fear him more? Good question. Here we have Yahoo News reporting that the Strait Times of Singapore reported that Chinese media reported that this happened. I'd take it with a pinch of salt. 120 dogs? That must be a huge cage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 3, 2014 Author #5 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Good question. Here we have Yahoo News reporting that the Strait Times of Singapore reported that Chinese media reported that this happened. I'd take it with a pinch of salt. 120 dogs? That must be a huge cage. Yes, but...if ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, all cover it...then...it must be true right? If EVERYONE in the media says its true it must be true right? All we 'know' is what people with their own agendas tell us. We don't really 'know' anything about much. We live in an age where all information is at our fingertips...and we can't believe more than 2% of it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 3, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 3, 2014 ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX covered 'the report' of the incidence ... not the incidence itself ... maybe the UNcle said something insulting about Dennis Rodman ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted January 3, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Yes, but...if ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, all cover it...then...it must be true right? If EVERYONE in the media says its true it must be true right? All we 'know' is what people with their own agendas tell us. We don't really 'know' anything about much. We live in an age where all information is at our fingertips...and we can't believe more than 2% of it. Huh? No, it does not have to be true if they report it. Did I say that? I don't follow these networks anyway. I prefer publically fundet outlets. What I meant is that all the sources, including the origininal source, the Straight Times of Singapore, refer to reports of other media. That makes me wonder. It's this copy/paste mentality that brought contemporary media in the position they are now. Edited January 3, 2014 by FLOMBIE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 3, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Huh? No, it does not have to be true if they report it. Did I say that? I don't follow these networks anyway. I prefer publically fundet outlets. What I meant is that all the sources, including the origininal source, the Straight Times of Singapore, refer to reports of other media. That makes me wonder. It's this copy/paste mentality that brought contemporary media in the position they are now. I think you missed what I intended to be ...obvious sarcasm...in my post. That's exactly my point...he said, she said...on a global media scale. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted January 3, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think you missed what I intended to be ...obvious sarcasm...in my post. That's exactly my point...he said, she said...on a global media scale. Alright then, I didn't catch that, it's late here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 3, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yes, but...if ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, all cover it...then...it must be true right? If EVERYONE in the media says its true it must be true right? All we 'know' is what people with their own agendas tell us. We don't really 'know' anything about much. We live in an age where all information is at our fingertips...and we can't believe more than 2% of it. Man you NAILED IT! When I was a kid in the 60's there was ABC,NBC,CBS and almost no variation in the real news of the day. But it was like words from the mountain top - no doubts. Now we have such a blizzard of information (but it's being created by individuals who we wonder if we can trust) that it is seemingly more useless than those 3 networks of so long ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted January 3, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Man you NAILED IT! When I was a kid in the 60's there was ABC,NBC,CBS and almost no variation in the real news of the day. But it was like words from the mountain top - no doubts. Now we have such a blizzard of information (but it's being created by individuals who we wonder if we can trust) that it is seemingly more useless than those 3 networks of so long ago. The big question that comes out of this is which outlets do you believe? If you look at this board, lot's of people just turn around and start blindly believing sites like infowars, which are highly misleading and pushing their own agenda as well. I try to get as big of an input as possible. Multiple sources, mainly in German and English. If you follow them for a while, you can easily decipher their tactics, and know how to value the info available. ALways think about what you read, and always try to find different perspectives, even if they might not suit your personal ideology. After all, it's always important to know what your enemy thinks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbyssWalker Posted January 3, 2014 #12 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Why 120? Wouldn't surprise me if this is just false, and surprisingly, it wouldn't surprise me even if this was true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keel M. Posted January 3, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 3, 2014 Author #14 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The big question that comes out of this is which outlets do you believe? If you look at this board, lot's of people just turn around and start blindly believing sites like infowars, which are highly misleading and pushing their own agenda as well. I try to get as big of an input as possible. Multiple sources, mainly in German and English. If you follow them for a while, you can easily decipher their tactics, and know how to value the info available. ALways think about what you read, and always try to find different perspectives, even if they might not suit your personal ideology. After all, it's always important to know what your enemy thinks. Everything we hear and see should be run first the Filter of Common Sense...the only problem is...Common Sense isn't anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplos Posted January 3, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Wouldn't the 120 starving dogs fight and eat each other? Why did they suddenly see naked guys as prey instead? This sounds like scare-mongering for status to me. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 3, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 3, 2014 AHhhh ... one could say that they are well regimented and disciplined patriotic North Korean canines perhaps .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter B Posted January 3, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't the 120 starving dogs fight and eat each other? Probably, if they were caged together. It doesn't strike me as terribly difficult to kennel them separately while starving them. Why did they suddenly see naked guys as prey instead? If they were let into the cage simultaneously after the men were placed there, I can imagine the dogs going for the smelly (to the dogs) humans. This sounds like scare-mongering for status to me. It could well be. But given what Kim Jong-Un had to say about the man who helped put him in power, I don't think it can be automatically ruled out, either. Edited January 3, 2014 by Peter B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter B Posted January 4, 2014 #18 Share Posted January 4, 2014 http://www.smh.com.au/world/why-kim-jongun-probably-didnt-feed-his-naked-uncle-to-120-dogs-20140104-30a85.html The story originated in a Hong Kong newspaper called Wen Wei Po, which oddly makes the claim without citing a source. With a couple of high-quality exceptions, Hong Kong media have a reputation for sensationalist and tabloidy stories that do not always turn out to be true. But, even by Hong Kong standards, Wen Wei Po is considered an unusually unreliable outlet. A recent study found that, out of Hong Kong's 21 newspapers, Wen Wei Po ranks 19th for credibility. That was the first of five (well, six) reasons why the story is probably untrue. It also contains some useful thoughts about why stories like this take off. Of course, the Sydney Morning Herald is part of the MSM... ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted January 4, 2014 #19 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) People in NK eat people. This is a surprise? Shades of Caligula actually. Edited January 4, 2014 by Simbi Laveau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhen Posted January 4, 2014 #20 Share Posted January 4, 2014 From a Telegraph blog: "The thing about North Korea is that it's so mad, so gruesome that it's difficult not to believe whatever tall story you hear about it. Kim Jong-un ate a baby? The army uses kittens for target practice? Kim Jong-il's reanimated corpse stalks the countryside scaring children? It all seems possible." Yes, it's difficult to sort out fact from fantasy in North Korea. Two recent facts come to mind though; 1) Kim Chol, vice minister of the army, was arrested for "drinking and carousing" during the official time of mourning for Dear Leader's father. Dear Leader had this miscreant tied to a post and annihilated by mortar rounds. 2) Dear Leader's girlfriend, Hyon, and 11 other musicians, singers and dancers were executed (machined gunned) for allegedly making pornographic videos. We report, you decide! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted January 4, 2014 #21 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Kim's Aunt is next on the doggy menu, which is a change as the N.Koreans eat dogs, so in effect they are eating his Uncle.In a hundred years time we shall look back and say, poor Nth Korea they all ate each other up until there was non left and so China annexed the empty Country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted January 4, 2014 #22 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think it's untrue personally,but who knows with this Psycho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted January 5, 2014 #23 Share Posted January 5, 2014 True or not it's selatious so it is fodder for low news but the sad thing is that human rights atrocities go on every day in North Korea. Well documented accounts of torture and starvation are common, yet not "wacky" enough to make the news often enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightScreams Posted January 5, 2014 #24 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) The source is from a newspaper with close ties to China's communist party. Remember that there is a struggle between those in the party who want to remain engaged with North Korea and those who would like to distance themselves from Kim's regime. Could possibly be such an attempt to skew the story just to help those that want to distance themselves. NK themselves did not mention how they died but really it wouldn't surprise me if the story was true, either way they killed the man for trying to overthrow the state. And why was my text shrinking? lol. Stupid new laptop Edited January 5, 2014 by NightScreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 5, 2014 #25 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Everything we hear and see should be run first the Filter of Common Sense...the only problem is...Common Sense isn't anymore. Trouble is, what anyone else might think was common sense may very well not apply when it comes to little Chubby. Anyway, 120 dogs? Surely the way for any megalomaniac with a sense of style to do it is with a tank of Sharks, preferably suspending the victim over it while tied with a rope which is about to be cut by some unnecessarily complicated device like a slowly descending pendulum or a buzzsaw or laser. Or if you can't afford sharks, piranhas, perhaps. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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