Calibeliever Posted January 11, 2014 #76 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Thats one of the big reasons why im an atheist. He is a mass murder, and still he wants us to obey him, because he is the god of love and compassion. God was the first terrorist ... ask Pharaoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted January 11, 2014 #77 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Do you think that this thread is a threat to his devine work? Can anyone of us offer even the slightest bit of worry to Gods plan? Of course not. We may talk about it, but it's like everything else that's to be find, it won't be found until it's time. But more so till the right person is made ready and the earth is prepared for it. We still have a few prophecies that have to be met before it's time for the Ark of the Covenant to make it's debut. Apparently your irony detector is on the fritz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDZ Posted January 11, 2014 #78 Share Posted January 11, 2014 So God kills someone, big deal. Being killed by God isn't the end of everything, just physical life, a price paid for disobedience. To God it may be on par with a spanking, being sent to our room for a grounding timeout. Lesson learned, move on to something else. Another thing to think about is that God claims to know what's in our hearts at all times. Consider that guys thoughts when he saw the ark starting to tip, what if, just like a child wanting to push the set limits he did it anyway thinking he'd get away with breaking a rule. Same as we punish our kids for being that kind of smart-ass so did God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted January 12, 2014 #79 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) So God kills someone, big deal. Being killed by God isn't the end of everything, just physical life, a price paid for disobedience. To God it may be on par with a spanking, being sent to our room for a grounding timeout. Lesson learned, move on to something else. Another thing to think about is that God claims to know what's in our hearts at all times. Consider that guys thoughts when he saw the ark starting to tip, what if, just like a child wanting to push the set limits he did it anyway thinking he'd get away with breaking a rule. Same as we punish our kids for being that kind of smart-ass so did God. You kill kids then?Punishing children is meant to teach them their actions are wrong, your analogy demonstrates you do not comprehend this. Edited January 12, 2014 by Rlyeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDZ Posted January 12, 2014 #80 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You kill kids then? See, I knew someone would say that. That you do not understand the analogy demonstrates you do not understand the difference between our ways ways and his. You incorrectly assume our ways are the same and, by his own words, they are not. "My thoughts are not your thoughts, my ways are not your ways". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 12, 2014 #81 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So God kills someone, big deal. Being killed by God isn't the end of everything, just physical life, a price paid for disobedience. To God it may be on par with a spanking, being sent to our room for a grounding timeout. Lesson learned, move on to something else. Another thing to think about is that God claims to know what's in our hearts at all times. Consider that guys thoughts when he saw the ark starting to tip, what if, just like a child wanting to push the set limits he did it anyway thinking he'd get away with breaking a rule. Same as we punish our kids for being that kind of smart-ass so did God. That is one of the most horrible defenses of religion i have yet seen. How can you possibly justify god killing children, just because they are disobedient ? So you would be ok with god killing your Family or friends, if they have been disobedient ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted January 12, 2014 #82 Share Posted January 12, 2014 That is one of the most horrible defenses of religion i have yet seen. How can you possibly justify god killing children, just because they are disobedient ? So you would be ok with god killing your Family or friends, if they have been disobedient ? If they really believe they are willing to slit their children's throat if religion (aka God) demands it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted January 12, 2014 #83 Share Posted January 12, 2014 See, I knew someone would say that. That you do not understand the analogy demonstrates you do not understand the difference between our ways ways and his. You incorrectly assume our ways are the same and, by his own words, they are not. "My thoughts are not your thoughts, my ways are not your ways". All your analogy demonstrates is you do not understand the purpose of punishment. You haven't used his words, you've used your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sards Posted January 12, 2014 #84 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Now this is just being silly. There is no conclusion to the faithful vs atheists vs agnostics thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 12, 2014 #85 Share Posted January 12, 2014 See, I knew someone would say that. That you do not understand the analogy demonstrates you do not understand the difference between our ways ways and his. You incorrectly assume our ways are the same and, by his own words, they are not. "My thoughts are not your thoughts, my ways are not your ways". So if god tell you to kill, you do it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sards Posted January 12, 2014 #86 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So if god tell you to kill, you do it ? I can see just what type of poster you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDZ Posted January 12, 2014 #87 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And the piling on begins. That's okay, I didn't expect many to understand. "If I told you earthly things and ye believe not, how will ye believe if I tell you of heavenly things?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 12, 2014 #88 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And the piling on begins. That's okay, I didn't expect many to understand. "If I told you earthly things and ye believe not, how will ye believe if I tell you of heavenly things?" You still havent actually answered my questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZDZ Posted January 12, 2014 #89 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The answers should be obvious but maybe you really don't get it so here you go... How can you possibly justify god killing children, just because they are disobedient ? I never said he kills children. You wrote that in yourself. The person in my example was a grown man. Was he a "child of God"? (Saved) I'd say the evidence suggests not. So you would be ok with god killing your Family or friends, if they have been disobedient ? Of course not, but I really would not be in position to do anything about it, now would I? So if god tell you to kill, you do it ? Of course not. He doesn't need Earthy hit men of any sort. He can, (and the Biblical evidence shows he has) do his own killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 12, 2014 #90 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think we should just agree to disagree then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sards Posted January 12, 2014 #91 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Supposing covering the ark in gold would neutralise the effect of whatever is inside........what would the ark be holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted January 12, 2014 #92 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I've heard that the Ark of the Covenant is in Axum, Ethiopia, in a temple. I have heard that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted January 12, 2014 #93 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nothing can happen to something that does not exist. You have a pretty closed mind dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted January 12, 2014 #94 Share Posted January 12, 2014 "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." - Revelation 11:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted January 12, 2014 #95 Share Posted January 12, 2014 You have a pretty closed mind dont you? Well, the definition of "closed mind" here is effectively "believes something different from me", so I guess you would reckon him to be closed-minded. (By exactly the same evidence of the Ark, fairies exist. Am I closed-minded for not believing in fairies?) --Jaylemurph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted January 12, 2014 #96 Share Posted January 12, 2014 No one wants to comment on the two arks that were made? Now Bezalel made the ark of acacia wood; its length was two and a half cubits, and its width one and a half cubits, and its height one and a half cubits; 2and he overlaid it with pure gold inside and out, and made a gold molding for it all around.… In Deuternomy 10 ,3 it was said I Moses built that ark only out of wood. And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted January 13, 2014 #97 Share Posted January 13, 2014 (By exactly the same evidence of the Ark, fairies exist. Am I closed-minded for not believing in fairies?) --Jaylemurph Long time no speak! Would you say I was closed-minded for not believing in my historiae lector after discovering they lied to me at high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted January 13, 2014 #98 Share Posted January 13, 2014 "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." - Revelation 11:19 Parrot scripture time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted January 14, 2014 #99 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." - Revelation 11:19 Your point is exactly............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted January 14, 2014 #100 Share Posted January 14, 2014 No one wants to comment on the two arks that were made? Now Bezalel made the ark of acacia wood; its length was two and a half cubits, and its width one and a half cubits, and its height one and a half cubits; 2and he overlaid it with pure gold inside and out, and made a gold molding for it all around.… In Deuternomy 10 ,3 it was said I Moses built that ark only out of wood. And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand. Yes, the second ark was built to specifically hold the replacement tablets that God said he would inscribe for him again... 'cause Moses broke the first ones whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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