Canadian Rottweiler Posted October 23, 2004 Author #76 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I know that they are rare.But they ARE well known of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_halo Posted October 23, 2004 #77 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Do you know its fake? I am also curious. this fight is pointless.There is no solid way to prove either of you right. 319185[/snapback] very true, so i shall just leave it as it is... albinos aren't that rare i saw 3 albino chipmunks on a wildlife park documentary today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Banana Pie Eater! Posted October 23, 2004 #78 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Loved the bat! It was cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted October 23, 2004 #79 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The albino deer in your first post isn't an albino, although there are albino deer, if you look closely its a "piebald" deer, where they have white and colored coats...I will try and find some links with other photos of them. Also I have seen on a tv show on the discovery channel a piebald chimpanzee, I think her name is Pinky, she is really really odd but cool looking. She has one blue eye and one brown eye and shows partial albanism, along with patches of color. I have searched for links with pics for her but those are had to come by. Cool albino pics, I am horse person and albinism doesn't occur in horses. There are white horses, but they have pigmented eyes, there are luecistic (sp?) horses but they are called cremellos and perlinos and smokey blacks. Color patterns in different species are fascinating. I keep wondering if albanism is in so many species, including plants, the mutation has been around for millions of years, makes you wonder if there were albino dinosaurs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted October 23, 2004 #80 Share Posted October 23, 2004 The albino deer in your first post isn't an albino, although there are albino deer, if you look closely its a "piebald" deer, where they have white and colored coats...I will try and find some links with other photos of them. Also I have seen on a tv show on the discovery channel a piebald chimpanzee, I think her name is Pinky, she is really really odd but cool looking. She has one blue eye and one brown eye and shows partial albanism, along with patches of color. I have searched for links with pics for her but those are had to come by. Cool albino pics, I am horse person and albinism doesn't occur in horses. There are white horses, but they have pigmented eyes, there are luecistic (sp?) horses but they are called cremellos and perlinos and smokey blacks. Color patterns in different species are fascinating. I keep wondering if albanism is in so many species, including plants, the mutation has been around for millions of years, makes you wonder if there were albino dinosaurs??? http://www.thomsonfoundation.org.uk/sierra...rism/albino.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera leo atrox Posted October 23, 2004 #81 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Here's another pic of the albino peahen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera leo atrox Posted October 23, 2004 #82 Share Posted October 23, 2004 albinism doesn't occur in horses Why not? Many species don't have known specimens yet, but it's still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted October 23, 2004 #83 Share Posted October 23, 2004 albinism doesn't occur in horses Why not? Many species don't have known specimens yet, but it's still possible. 321505[/snapback] hmm... odd... some say there's no such thing.. that the gene is lethal to the horse.. others say that there are. Well.. even if the gene is letal to the horse and the horse is born with the gene... reguardless it existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted October 23, 2004 #84 Share Posted October 23, 2004 http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/porcupi...ine-In_Cage.jpg http://coldbloodedpets.com/animals/albino.jpg http://www.australianexplorer.com/photogra...oo_albino_2.jpg AMAZING TURTLE ALBINOS: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN http://www.naturalhistorymall.com/Resource...lbo-red-ear.jpg http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/announcements/op...s/DSCN4113X.jpg http://www.dobsonagency.co.uk/animals/albinolobster.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted October 23, 2004 #85 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Some more pictures I found: http://centralcoastreptiles.com/pics/abinoiguanaframe.jpg http://www.floridasprings.org/anatomy/life...rayfish_thm.jpg Comparison: Cow & Albino Cow http://hem.passagen.se/sagabo/kabinett/albino/cow.jpg http://hedwigr.free.fr/Afrikaanse/ablie.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera leo atrox Posted October 23, 2004 #86 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I wonder why it would be lethal to horses? I've never heard of anything like that in any other species Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted October 23, 2004 #87 Share Posted October 23, 2004 No idea. But, there had to be a few in order for them to even know that it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera leo atrox Posted October 24, 2004 #88 Share Posted October 24, 2004 So is it true or just speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted October 24, 2004 #89 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Trust me there is no such thing as an albino horse, what are called albino by people who don't know better are either of three things....there are genes that cause white horses (W) but they are not albino...they have pigment to thier skin and dark eyes, that by definition isn't albino. Then there are cremellos or perlinos, they are the luecistic form, very pale but even have markings. Any site that says they have an albino is misinformed. According to UC Davis Equine Genetics studies they don't exist and haven't ever. The third is another gene called sabino, where in extreme expressions of the gene the horse is totally white, but if you look close they have a few dark hairs somewhere on thier body. Its just an extreme form of white patterning. One of the horses on the link above is just a plain old grey horse that turned white. The grey gene overrides all others when its present in a horse and they turn from thier original color to white over time, but have dark skin. So in fact there are no albino horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted October 24, 2004 #90 Share Posted October 24, 2004 But it is possible - mutated horse - albino? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera leo atrox Posted October 24, 2004 #91 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Well then, can you explain genetically why this happens, and only in horses but no other species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoonlady Posted October 24, 2004 #92 Share Posted October 24, 2004 most albinos aren't true albinos anyway, they are leucistic but look white to the eye. In the case of horses, many look white but do not meet the criteria for being albino because they don't lack pigment. There are white horses, yes, but they are white due to other genes, albino is not a mutation more a recessive gene. That gene, since it is recessive, when two resessive genes come together that gene gets expressed. The gene has never been found. The genome for the horse has been mapped especially when it comes to color. There is speculation that even if a locus for the albino allele exists, its getting filled by the creme gene and the horse comes out cream but has pigment. All albinos aren't mutants they are just the coming together of two recessive genes one from each parent. So the mutant theory doesn't work. www.doubledilute.com has information on the cream gene and how albinism in horses do not exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted October 24, 2004 #93 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Isn't that just like the case of rabbits - rabbits can be white not due to mutations but just because of its dominant gene color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera leo atrox Posted October 24, 2004 #94 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Weird. Can you give some info (a source) on albinism not being a mutation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted October 24, 2004 #95 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I'll do some research... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Oguh2 Posted October 25, 2004 #96 Share Posted October 25, 2004 WOW! the peahen and the first buck are AWESOME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted October 25, 2004 #97 Share Posted October 25, 2004 I can't believe that albino lobster? Rare and wierd, but pretty fascinating and cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raydon Posted October 25, 2004 #98 Share Posted October 25, 2004 All the albino pictures are beautiful! Thanks for posting them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Rottweiler Posted October 25, 2004 Author #99 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Rottweiler Posted October 26, 2004 Author #100 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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