seeder Posted January 29, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Mars in the news again today, seems a blob/streak in the sky has sparked the UFO people into action!! Meteor? Has Nasa's Curiosity rover spotted a UFO on MARS? Rover images reveals conical object streaking through the sky * Image taken by the Curiosity rover on the Martian surface * Shows white streaking object in the air which appears to have a conical shape and vapour trail 'Enlargement of the object reveals a spherical top cone, a rounded center mass and what looks like some kind of propellant ejecting from its tail,' the Bublews site claims. http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2rmiNN2Vg [media=] [/media] Edited January 29, 2014 by seeder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted January 29, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm bein' a bit lazy here, as it's past my bedtime.. But to proceed we will need to go back to the original highest resolution image. Then we need to apply genuine (not amateurish guaranteed-artefact-inducing-enlarge-the-bejeebers-out-of-it) techniques to truly and properly analyse the image. That would be a NON-interpolating enlargement that shows the pixels as they ARE, not as some interpolation routine makes up guessed fake ones.. Then I'd want to see the images immediately before and after that one, if any.. But I'm too sleepy.. G'nite all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm bein' a bit lazy here, as it's past my bedtime.. But to proceed we will need to go back to the original highest resolution image. Then we need to apply genuine (not amateurish guaranteed-artefact-inducing-enlarge-the-bejeebers-out-of-it) techniques to truly and properly analyse the image. That would be a NON-interpolating enlargement that shows the pixels as they ARE, not as some interpolation routine makes up guessed fake ones.. Then I'd want to see the images immediately before and after that one, if any.. But I'm too sleepy.. G'nite all.. sleep tight!! Im sure someone will be along to magnify and enhance Im leaving the house soon so no time to dig the original photo out till later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #4 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Ah what the heck, just found this attempt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr no Posted January 29, 2014 #5 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I thought NASA covered up all evidence of ufos? Not very good at it are they? Hard to tell what this is till we get some enhancement I wrote this before Seeder posted the update,I still can't hazard a guess Edited January 29, 2014 by dr no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #6 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Just goes to show doesn't it, that even on Mars - UFO's choose to use their blurring technology so earthmans cameras just see.. a blurry something 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted January 29, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Keep in mind, we have Mars Odyssey, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Mars Express currently in orbit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasina Posted January 29, 2014 #8 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I know I was never very good at those hidden image things but seriously, I see a 'streak' where the heck is the '...spherical top cone, a rounded center mass and what looks like some kind of propellant ejecting from its tail'. Some people have all the luck and see what they want to see. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 29, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 29, 2014 the trajectory of its movement will tell the whole story ... patience ... patience one and all .... ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #10 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Found the raw image for those who want to try enhancing etc etc not that I expect final proof of alienz on Mars http://mars.jpl.nasa...FHAZ00323M_.JPG Edited January 29, 2014 by seeder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 29, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 29, 2014 its still a JPEG seeder ... I don;t think there will be image RAW extensions available for the public ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #12 Share Posted January 29, 2014 its still a JPEG seeder ... I don;t think there will be image RAW extensions available for the public ... Ah OK, Im no image expert at all. I found that link under one of the youtube versions of that vid, (not the version posted). I think the link text made me think it was raw as seen below http: //mars.jpl.nasa.gov /msl-raw-images/ proj/msl/redops/ods/ surface/sol/00504/opgs/edr/fcam/FLB_442235847EDR_F0250000FHAZ00323M_ .JPG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted January 29, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Ah OK, Im no image expert at all. I found that link under one of the youtube versions of that vid, (not the version posted). I think the link text made me think it was raw as seen below ~link snip Nahhhh .. no big deal ... many in a DTP studios still trips up on that especially those app oriented folks ... here the ' /msl-raw-images/ ' is a directory of folder convention and just means images as from source prior to DTP formatting (such as cropping, resizing or scaling If required) RAW extensions are usually referred to as 'master copies' and most unlikely to be shared out ~ ~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted January 29, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Riveting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaden Posted January 29, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Keep in mind, we have Mars Odyssey, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Mars Express currently in orbit. A logical, rational thought? You obviously have no business posting here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 29, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) its still a JPEG seeder ... I don;t think there will be image RAW extensions available for the public ... Here is the RAW one: http://mars.jpl.nasa...AZ00323M_&s=504 Next thing important to need to know is the exposure time of that pic. Edited January 29, 2014 by toast 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 29, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 29, 2014 And another suspicious one: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00504/opgs/edr/fcam/FRB_442238851EDR_F0250066FHAZ00216M_.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #18 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Here is the RAW one: http://mars.jpl.nasa...AZ00323M_&s=504 Next thing important to know is the exposure time of that pic. Good find matey. For future ref, how did you find it? . Edited January 29, 2014 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonFromPorlock Posted January 29, 2014 #19 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Interesting, I'd like to see the RAW. Anyone know the shutter speed for this image? Boringly, a meteor, possibly motion blurred, seems to be the most likely explanation. Edit: OK, here's an enlargement from the RAW. Edited January 29, 2014 by PersonFromPorlock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 29, 2014 #20 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Good find matey. For future ref, how did you find it? To find a pic the SOL (Solar day) number is required, this number is always mentioned in the pic filename/pic link, here marked in red: http:// mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00504/opgs/edr/fcam/FRB_442238851EDR_ F0250066FHAZ00216M_.JPG For the search use the last 4 digits only, means 0504. Go to : http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/ >search section > key into : 0504 images The file codes are containing a lot of informations like the name of the rover, date/time of exposure, cam in use and others, look here for the "how to decode filenames" : http://marsrover.nas...lename_key.html Edited January 29, 2014 by toast 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #21 Share Posted January 29, 2014 To find a pic the SOL (Solar day) number is required, this number is always mentioned in the pic filename/pic link, here marked in red: http:// mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00504/opgs/edr/fcam/FRB_442238851EDR_ F0250066FHAZ00216M_.JPG For the search use the last 4 digits only, means 0504. Go to : http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/ >search section > key into : 0504 images The file codes are containing a lot of informations like the name of the rover, date/time of exposure, cam in use and others, look here for the "how to decode filenames" : http://marsrover.nas...lename_key.html Again - Cheers mate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #22 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I bet it was this alien-in-a-spacesuit taking off again http://marsrovers.jp...09P2267L2M1.JPG Edited January 29, 2014 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted January 29, 2014 #23 Share Posted January 29, 2014 its still a JPEG seeder ... I don;t think there will be image RAW extensions available for the public ... On the contrary, even the original data file (probably a FITS file or similar raw file that requires processing in order to be viewed) will also be available from the archives - as toast showed, you just need to do some homework.. Right now I have to work...I'll be back later. Note that the enlargements being shown here are INTERPOLATED, whether or not they are from the uncompressed original raw file. That's NOT how you analyse data!!!! If you're not seeing hard edged square pixels, you *are* seeing FALSE data. That second image looks like a data glitch (cosmic ray hit or data transmission error) or an overloaded couple of pixels (possibly from a glint of something - there are shiny things on Mars, some of which we bright with us!) that have bled into neighboring pixels. In the meantime, we should put a call out to pericynthion - he's the guy!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perceptivum Posted January 29, 2014 #24 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If you "see" in the picture "what looks like some kind of propellant ejecting from its tail" then I would argue it is not an alien spaceship. Would not an alien space craft have advanced propulsion systems where propellant would not be ejecting? I seriously doubt aliens are "rocketing" all over the universe. Therefore, if you believe this object is a space craft of some sort (as "some kind of propellant" is being ejected...) it is obviously something Earth-made; especially as we have many things orbiting Mars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted January 29, 2014 Author #25 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If you "see" in the picture "what looks like some kind of propellant ejecting from its tail" then I would argue it is not an alien spaceship. Would not an alien space craft have advanced propulsion systems where propellant would not be ejecting? I seriously doubt aliens are "rocketing" all over the universe. Therefore, if you believe this object is a space craft of some sort (as "some kind of propellant" is being ejected...) it is obviously something Earth-made; especially as we have many things orbiting Mars. ha and theres me thinking it might just be the sun, and a lens flare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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