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What or Who created the Patomskiy crater


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Oh I do like finding stuff Ive not read before!! But I do worry about scientists seemingly always getting baffled :lol:

What (or who) created Siberia's 'Eagle's Nest'? A meteorite, a nuke or gulag inmates? Scientists baffled

* The site in Irkutsk, Siberia, was discovered in 1949 by a geologist

* Scientists now think the Patomskiy crater was created by a meteorite but no traces of material have been found to support the theory

* It is thought to be 250 years old and changes shape constantly

When one geologist stumbled across a massive mound 65 years ago, he had no idea his discovery would spark one of the world’s strangest scientific mysteries.

The site in Irkutsk, Siberia was discovered in 1949 and is a huge convex cone with a funnel-shaped recess and a rounded hill in the middle, which looks a little like an eagle’s nest with an egg nestled inside it.

The origin of the Patomskiy crater has baffled scientists for decades and theories for its existence have ranged from a nuclear blast to a secret gulag mine and even a meteorite strike.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2553841/Siberian-eagles-nest-continues-baffle-scientists-Theories-250-year-old-mound-formed-range-meteorite-strike-nuclear-blast.html#ixzz2seX2DIdh

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it's a molehill.

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Mother Earth's sphincter.

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it's a molehill.

They will need to be big moles then wont they :lol:

"The cone is 80 metres tall from the lowest point of its base and measures 150 metres wide".

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I read up on this place and it certainly is fascinating. I did find a site claiming that there is a UFO buried down in the rubble. No one needs to fake a UFO report to make this place interesting.

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Creepy!

http://englishrussia...t-in-the-woods/

http://www.google.de...ed=0CIgBEK0DMBE

Looking at pic 8 on page 1, the material dont look like soil, it looks like chrushed stones or concrete.

Google Earth coordinates, anybody?

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia....atomskiy_crater

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Google Earth coordinates, anybody?

Just found it : 59°17'9.31"N 116°35'22.09"E (copy/paste)

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In another forum somebody claimed that the object is a gigantic subwoofer. :lol:

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the fact that they say its shape changes and rises/falls leads me to think at it's core, it's volcanic. The force that's pushing the rocks just hasn't shown itself. It rises and falls based on that volcanic force. Easily causing the shape shown..

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It resembles a cinder cone, is the area volcanic?...

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It was THEM!

Edited by Sir Wearer of Hats
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some quotes from the link Toast supplied

"Questions remain unanswered about a phenomenon that has been called 'The Most Mysterious Place in Russia'. For example, why don't trees grow on the side of the cone-like structure? Radiation levels are low now, but there is evidence they were once very high: why?

Locals called it the Fire Eagle Nest, and according to them even the deer didn't dare to go close to it. Locals told a lot of legends about it, warning people would suddenly start feeling unwell or even disappear, some to be found dead later, some never to be found. As recently as 2005, indeed, the head of a mission to the crater died suddenly within several kilometres of it.

'The trees still did not grow on the slopes and in the crater, the winds had not brought the soil yet. I estimated the age of this anomaly at some 200 to 250 years. And another mystery - a semi-circular dome cavity with a diameter of 15 meters in the centre of a crater. In volcanoes, even extinct, such domes cannot exist.'

Another expert, a doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, Igor Simonov, of Moscow Institute for Problems in Mechanics, conducted a series of intriguing experiments, and evidently established that the crater could have been formed from the fall of a cylindrical object of super dense material.

http://www.google.de/imgres?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&channel=rcs&biw=1920&bih=907&tbm=isch&tbnid=8x-PhX4_WfZaUM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsiberiantimes.com%2Fscience%2Fcasestudy%2Ffeatures%2Fa-volcano-or-a-ufo-what-created-this-mysterious-siberian-crater%2F&docid=5AIiijHaqs5cnM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsiberiantimes.com%2FPICTURES%2FFEATURES%2FSCIENCE%2Fslope%252520of%252520the%252520crater.jpg&w=720&h=522&ei=OiL1UsT6HcavygPJoIHIAw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=593&page=1&start=0&ndsp=41&ved=0CIgBEK0DMBE

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It resembles a cinder cone, is the area volcanic?...

well even wiki has few details, but the page finished with this

"Several scientific expeditions have been sent to the crater, but the nature of its origin remains a mystery"

http://en.wikipedia....atomskiy_crater

Is it really a mystery? A truly Unexplained Mystery? :tu:

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well even wiki has few details, but the page finished with this

"Several scientific expeditions have been sent to the crater, but the nature of its origin remains a mystery"

http://en.wikipedia....atomskiy_crater

Is it really a mystery? A truly Unexplained Mystery? :tu:

Oh yes and I think it´s a hot one. I always said it is more likely that unmanned ET probes arrive earth before

ET manned space crafts as probes are independent from creature lifetime span and probes do not require

that amount of energy and invest of "Andromeda-Yuan" as manned crafts.

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*puts on serious hat*

If I was to hazard a guess, I would say it is the begninning of a salt dome.

The person who died was possibly the victim of outgassing, and died of asphyxiation.

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well even wiki has few details, but the page finished with this

"Several scientific expeditions have been sent to the crater, but the nature of its origin remains a mystery"

http://en.wikipedia....atomskiy_crater

Is it really a mystery? A truly Unexplained Mystery? :tu:

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It's not anywhere near Tunguska, is it? Perhaps it's a bit that fell off that, which as we know was an ET mothership that exploded.

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It was THEM!

Indeed. It was them, Our Past Basset Masters, who (may their drooly wisdom be praised) buried a substantial Space Ham bone there. Dude died because he tried to dig it up without permission.

--Jaylemirph

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I'm stumped!. My only suggestion would be for them to dig a shaft straight down, parallel about 30 meters and then tunnel under it to take a look.

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It resembles a cinder cone, is the area volcanic?...

That was my first thought. But the Wiki article says the cone is made of limestone blocks, not volcanic ash.

In volcanoes, even extinct, such domes cannot exist.'

That is plainly not true. I've seen the dome in Mount Saint Helens in Washington State USA and it looks exactly like that in a more macro scale. A dome growing inside a crater.

I personnally don't believe this is meteor based for a second. There is no Displaced material, there is only Added material. If this was formed from a blast from space, it would scoop into the hill and the top of the bump would be level with the rest of the hillside.

I don't know what it is, but I know that it is not from a meteorite or volcanic, at least not in the customary sense of both.

The wiki article seemed to imply it might be from a chemical interaction of the limestone with something coming up from below. Perhaps salt, perhaps something like natural gas.

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