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[Milo flint]

I have heard of cows being cut open and having their guts removed. I have heard of people waking up with missing kidneys. my question is; why do they want this stuff? My theoy is that they plan to explore the universe at ease, and need to make vaccines, preventions, cures and treatments for any dieseases or toxins they might encounter on their exploration, so they come to earth to learn how we cope with these things. anyone who has read war of the worlds knows that to kill an alien, sneeze of it or hit it with a dirty object. what do you think?

[aquatus1]

Pretty sure the kidney thing isn't aliens.

My main question is how these aliens have such an in depth knowledge of the human brain they can freeze people and mess with their memories, but they still need to work on the more gross anatomical features we humans figured out centuries ago.

[029b10]

If they created us here on this planet then doesn't that point to the true organ snatchers?

[qxcontinuum]

Blame the asians. They always eat all the strange stuff In the name of their traditional medicine....cattle organs seems to be a surprise: delicacy..

Edited February 10, 2014 by qxcontinuum

[psyche101]

I have heard of cows being cut open and having their guts removed. I have heard of people waking up with missing kidneys. my question is; why do they want this stuff? My theoy is that they plan to explore the universe at ease, and need to make vaccines, preventions, cures and treatments for any dieseases or toxins they might encounter on their exploration, so they come to earth to learn how we cope with these things. anyone who has read war of the worlds knows that to kill an alien, sneeze of it or hit it with a dirty object. what do you think?

I honestly think your own question answers itself. The claims beggar belief for a start.

[Space Commander Travis]

Surely the kidney thing is when people are abducted by people who want to steal their kidneys, or one of them at any rate, to sell? I don't think that's anything to do with ETs specifically.

[toast]

I have heard of cows being cut open and having their guts removed. I have heard of people waking up with missing kidneys. my question is; why do they want this stuff? My theoy is that they plan to explore the universe at ease, and need to make vaccines, preventions, cures and treatments for any dieseases or toxins they might encounter on their exploration, so they come to earth to learn how we cope with these things. anyone who has read war of the worlds knows that to kill an alien, sneeze of it or hit it with a dirty object. what do you think?

Honestly:

[Hazzard]

What do I think,... I think this is as stupid as it gets.

[Rlyeh]

Some times ET misplaces my car keys.

[MissJatti]

i think ET comes to Earth and kidnap us humans, to find out our strengths and weaknesses.

They will search every nook and cranny, every avenue.... so when the time comes, ET will destroy the human race, in one swift move.

Without destroying earths egosystem

[Hazzard]

i think ET comes to Earth and kidnap us humans, to find out our strengths and weaknesses.

They will search every nook and cranny, every avenue.... so when the time comes, ET will destroy the human race, in one swift move.

Without destroying earths egosystem

Finding out how to exterminate us shouldnt take ET so long, we figured out how to do that years ago.

Maybe those pesky aliens are all morons,... They way the keep playing with cow-butts and crashing their space ships all over the world I mean?!

[ambelamba]

Blame the asians. They always eat all the strange stuff In the name of their traditional medicine....cattle organs seems to be a surprise: delicacy..

We don't have to do that. (I am an Asian) Slaughterhouses already throw the unwanted parts away for cheap price anyway.

That being said, I am searching through your previous posts and topics to see if you...

[qxcontinuum]

We don't have to do that. (I am an Asian) Slaughterhouses already throw the unwanted parts away for cheap price anyway.

That being said, I am searching through your previous posts and topics to see if you...

it's ok you're good, looks like other nations are eating organs too.. .surprise surprise!

Catlee mutilation is a reality investigated by FBI initially with a budget allocated of 45.000 dollars. . I personally believe Aliens are not the reason of it. So there's only two left options

http://en.wikipedia....ttle_mutilation

1) ritualistic

2) obsessive food disorders or believes; such as eating shark fins, tiger liver, wale sperm, etc.... i inclined to believe the latest one!

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Chitterlings

Edited February 11, 2014 by qxcontinuum

[zoser]

I have heard of cows being cut open and having their guts removed. I have heard of people waking up with missing kidneys. my question is; why do they want this stuff? My theoy is that they plan to explore the universe at ease, and need to make vaccines, preventions, cures and treatments for any dieseases or toxins they might encounter on their exploration, so they come to earth to learn how we cope with these things. anyone who has read war of the worlds knows that to kill an alien, sneeze of it or hit it with a dirty object. what do you think?

When a planet is in trouble and it's species threatened with extinction as planet earth could well be at this time then surely it's time to rescue some DNA material before it's too late?

That's one reason for the harvesting. There may be others but that one is compelling enough.

Edited February 11, 2014 by zoser

[qxcontinuum]

Interesting enough on this subject that I have never heard about until now is from Wikipedia; ok I must admit ; I am wow-ed by the amount of incidents and the data reported!

http://en.wikipedia....ttle_mutilation

Physical characteristics

In most cases mutilation wounds appear to be clean, and carried out surgically. Mutilated animals are usually, though not always^[7] reported to have been drained of blood, and have no sign of blood in the immediate area or around their wounds.

George E. Onet, a doctor of veterinary microbiology and cattle mutilation investigator claims that allegedly mutilated cattle are avoided by large scavengers "such as coyotes, wolves, foxes, dogs, skunks, badgers, and bobcats" for several days after its death. Similarly, domestic animals are also reported to be "visibly agitated" and "fearful" of the carcass.^[8]"

Laboratory reports carried out on some mutilated animals have shown unusually high or low levels of vitamins or minerals in tissue samples, and the presence of chemicals not normally found in animals.

ETC

Edited February 11, 2014 by qxcontinuum

[scowl]

Interesting enough on this subject that I have never heard about until now is from Wikipedia; ok I must admit ; I am wow-ed by the amount of incidents and the data reported!

These amazing "mutilations" with "surgical precision" and mysterious lack of blood have mundane explanations. A cable show (can't remember which one) left a dead cow out in a field for a couple of days. It was no different from a cow mutilated by an alien. They found a mysterious lack of blood... because the blood drains to the parts of the body closest to the ground. Missing organs were found to have been small predators (mice, birds, etc.). The surgical cuts were actually caused by microbes eating away along certain tissues.

Everything about so-called cattle mutilations was explained.

[qxcontinuum]

but;

Los Alamos detected the presence of naturally occurring Clostridium bacteria in the heart, but was unable to reach any conclusions because of the possibility that the bacteria represented postmortem contamination. They did not directly investigate the heart's unusual color or texture.^[14]

Samples from the animal's liver were found to be completely devoid of copper and to contain 4 times the normal level of zinc, potassium and phosphorus. The scientists performing the analysis were unable to explain these anomalies.^[14]

"Some ranchers have disputed the more scientifically mainstream "natural causes hypothesis" on the grounds that the mutilated animals often fall outside of the normal categories of natural deaths by predation or disease. One reason cited is that the animals were healthy and showed no sign of disease prior to death, and were large and strong enough not to be a likely target for a predator. In some cases, ranchers have reported that the mutilated cattle were among the healthiest and strongest animals in their herd.^[19]"

more to it;

Laboratory reports carried out on some mutilated animals have shown unusually high or low levels of vitamins or minerals in tissue samples, and the presence of chemicals not normally found in animals. However, not all mutilated animals display these anomalies, and those that do have slightly different anomalies from one another. On account of the time between death and necropsy, and a lack of background information on specific cattle, investigators have often found it impossible to determine if these variations are connected to the animals' deaths or not.^[14]

In the same time FBi official reports is not "biting" the specialists investigations though;

Rommel's final report was 297 pages long and cost approximately US$45,000. It concluded that mutilations were predominantly the result of natural predation, but that some contained anomalies that could not be accounted for by conventional wisdom. The FBI was unable to identify any individuals responsible for the mutilations. Details of the investigation are now available under the Freedom of Information Act.

Prior to the involvement of the FBI, the ATF launched their own investigation of the phenomenon.^[16] It concluded further investigation was necessary, but was unable to determine what was behind the phenomenon. The scope of the ATF investigation was limited to a single suspected cause.^{[citation needed]}

Edited February 12, 2014 by qxcontinuum

[qxcontinuum]

i find extremely unusual after so many reports that farmers don't consider installing some micro cameras :-) that will solve the mystery for as low as 1000$

[toast]

(..) That's one reason for the harvesting. (...)

So you think there is/was harvesting?

[aquatus1]

I can't remember which case it was, but one of my favorite exchanges regarding the clean cuts found on mutilated animals goes:

Ufologist: "If an animal did that, he did it with a scalpel."

To which the investigator responded:

"If a person did that, he did it with his teeth."

[scowl]

but;

Los Alamos detected the presence of naturally occurring Clostridium bacteria in the heart, but was unable to reach any conclusions because of the possibility that the bacteria represented postmortem contamination. They did not directly investigate the heart's unusual color or texture.^[14]

So?

Samples from the animal's liver were found to be completely devoid of copper and to contain 4 times the normal level of zinc, potassium and phosphorus. The scientists performing the analysis were unable to explain these anomalies.^[14]

So?

"Some ranchers have disputed the more scientifically mainstream "natural causes hypothesis" on the grounds that the mutilated animals often fall outside of the normal categories of natural deaths by predation or disease. One reason cited is that the animals were healthy and showed no sign of disease prior to death, and were large and strong enough not to be a likely target for a predator. In some cases, ranchers have reported that the mutilated cattle were among the healthiest and strongest animals in their herd.^[19]"

Cows drop dead all the time with no signs of disease. Cattle are attacked by predators all the time. "Among the healthiest and strongest" is hardly an objective statement and doesn't count for much. Predators attack whenever animal is most convenient.

And when it comes to getting data, UFO researchers don't even bother to lift the animals to examine them.

Laboratory reports carried out on some mutilated animals have shown unusually high or low levels of vitamins or minerals in tissue samples, and the presence of chemicals not normally found in animals. However, not all mutilated animals display these anomalies, and those that do have slightly different anomalies from one another. On account of the time between death and necropsy, and a lack of background information on specific cattle, investigators have often found it impossible to determine if these variations are connected to the animals' deaths or not.^[14]

So?

Rommel's final report was 297 pages long and cost approximately US$45,000. It concluded that mutilations were predominantly the result of natural predation, but that some contained anomalies that could not be accounted for by conventional wisdom. The FBI was unable to identify any individuals responsible for the mutilations. Details of the investigation are now available under the Freedom of Information Act.

Prior to the involvement of the FBI, the ATF launched their own investigation of the phenomenon.^[16] It concluded further investigation was necessary, but was unable to determine what was behind the phenomenon. The scope of the ATF investigation was limited to a single suspected cause.^{[citation needed]}

Once again, so?

Oh yes. Conclusion: Aliens!!!!!

[JesseCuster]

When a planet is in trouble and it's species threatened with extinction as planet earth could well be at this time then surely it's time to rescue some DNA material before it's too late?

That's one reason for the harvesting. There may be others but that one is compelling enough.

1. Why cattle of all the species they could be interested in? Are they looking to clone some because they like beef?

2. Why mutilate and kill a cow to get its DNA? That's about the most convoluted way you could imagine. Us mere humans can take a DNA sample from a harmless cheek swab. You don't need to cut someone open, mutilate them and kill them in order to take a DNA sample. These aliens sound pretty dumb.

3. If you want DNA samples, why do it repeatedly over years instead of simply picking a representative sample of cows and just take the necessary samples in one night session (without unnecessarily mutilating and killing the cows)?

Nothing makes sense about your claim.

Edited February 12, 2014 by JesseCuster

[scowl]

When a planet is in trouble and it's species threatened with extinction as planet earth could well be at this time then surely it's time to rescue some DNA material before it's too late?

Too bad these super smart aliens can't snatch a bull calf and a heifer and raise their own cattle. Perhaps they're threatened by extinction because they forgot how animals reproduce.

[qxcontinuum]

[/sup]

So?

[/sup]

So?

[/sup]

Cows drop dead all the time with no signs of disease. Cattle are attacked by predators all the time. "Among the healthiest and strongest" is hardly an objective statement and doesn't count for much. Predators attack whenever animal is most convenient.

And when it comes to getting data, UFO researchers don't even bother to lift the animals to examine them.

[/sup]

So?

Once again, so?

Oh yes. Conclusion: Aliens!!!!!

so?

[aquatus1]

So, aliens.

Duh.