Vincennes Posted February 24, 2014 #1 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) I just finished reading Steve Thomas' book regarding the murder of JonBenet. I always knew there had to be another part of the story, a reason why it was at times obvious the Ramsey's were not telling the truth and how they seemed to be successful in evading even talking to the police. This is a great read, although prepare to be sickened. And, no, it is not a vindication of what first happened at the crime scene. It is an explanation of what went on from there. It is: "JonBenet: Inside the Murder Investigation" by Steve Thomas. I'd love to hear comments from anyone else who has read the book. Edited February 24, 2014 by Vincennes 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted January 19, 2016 #2 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I have! And honestly, I cannot see how anyone could think that the parents WEREN'T involved. As this book spells out rather straight, the parents were involved and that is why they worked so hard to evade the police. While I don't think the parents did it, I think they did cover up the younger brother, Burke, doing it. But this is just my opinion based on the facts I have seen presented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Lotus Posted January 19, 2016 #3 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) http://www.reviewjou...t-ramsey-murder old news story but was an interesting ama for reddit http://extras.denver...onbenetAMA.html eta: woahhhh didn't know this thread was so old lmao gg rinna Edited January 19, 2016 by Iron_Lotus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted January 19, 2016 #4 Share Posted January 19, 2016 http://www.reviewjou...t-ramsey-murder old news story but was an interesting ama for reddit http://extras.denver...onbenetAMA.html eta: woahhhh didn't know this thread was so old lmao gg rinna Hahaha! I know, but somehow I dug really far back to see this. I have always found the Ramsey case interesting because the parents seemed loving enough, but yet she was killed so brutally. I just don't understand any of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 19, 2016 #5 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) eta: woahhhh didn't know this thread was so old lmao gg rinna You fool. ..What have you done??!! Edit: I see... you already had a patsy in place. Convinent. Edited January 19, 2016 by Imaginarynumber1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Lotus Posted January 19, 2016 #6 Share Posted January 19, 2016 never believed the parents, just like the casey anthony case, two families got off with killing their children directly or indirectly both families were responsible my views have never shifted from my original suspicions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Lotus Posted January 19, 2016 #7 Share Posted January 19, 2016 You fool. ..What have you done??!! Edit: I see... you already had a patsy in place. Convinent. i ALWAYS have a patsy im always prepared.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted January 19, 2016 #8 Share Posted January 19, 2016 never believed the parents, just like the casey anthony case, two families got off with killing their children directly or indirectly both families were responsible my views have never shifted from my original suspicions. Exactly! Just look at the ransom note compared to Patsy Ramsey's handwriting. They are very similar, and most hand writing experts agree that she did it. Additionally, what always struck me as odd was the way the parents behaved when you compare them to other parents who have lost children. The other parents who lose children will dedicate their lives to finding the killer so that no other child has to be harmed, and no other family has to endure the pain. Yet the Jonbenet Ramsey foundation was dismantled years after her death, and her father has been quoted saying that the media needs to "let Jonbenet rest". Like, seriously? Wouldn't she "rest" better knowing her killer is behind bars? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 19, 2016 #9 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Wouldn't she "rest" better knowing her killer is behind bars? Probably not, what on account of being dead and all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted January 19, 2016 #10 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Probably not, what on account of being dead and all. Hence my putting rest in air quotes! Edited January 19, 2016 by Rinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Lotus Posted January 19, 2016 #11 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) sure takes guts for someone to kill a little girl and then write a 2 and a half page note while the parents are supposedly sleeping in the house i personally believe patsy wrote the note the only one of its kind as mark beckner said "No note has ever been written at the scene, and then left at the scene with the dead victim at the scene, other than this case." and the John Ramsey and Beth Holloway connection really makes my stomach turn. the fbi never hearing of or ever seeing a ransom note that long. "foreign factions" knowing johns EXACT bonus amount for their ransom. so many weird things it just still blows my mind how they messed up this case so badly not getting statements from patsy and john SEPARATELY at the scene not 5 months later after they have their host of lawyers feeding them answers. eta: and as harsh as this may sound karma kind of hit that family after anyways patsy suffered and died from cancer, so theres that at least. just waiting for ol johnny boy. Edited January 19, 2016 by Iron_Lotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted January 20, 2016 #12 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I tend to think that the perp had entered the home at least once before while the family was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted January 20, 2016 #13 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I tend to think that the perp had entered the home at least once before while the family was out. Regi! I am shocked to even hear you mention a perp! All the facts point toward a family member being involved, no perp even entering the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowpup Posted January 20, 2016 #14 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I have learned that many people believe there was a "perp", which technically there was. She was already in the house. I have thought Patsy either killed her or knew who did. I have never doubted that and unless some very hard proof comes out to say otherwise, I won't ever doubt it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted January 20, 2016 #15 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Regi! I am shocked to even hear you mention a perp! Well you're convinced of something entirely different and so I'm not surprised you're shocked but to me, the DNA evidence is conclusive evidence that the Ramsey's did not murder their daughter. I haven't given up on the possibility that one day there will be a match that DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deirdre Alexandra143 Posted January 20, 2016 #16 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Don't forget the part about the police searching the house for the little girl and suddenly the dad appears from the basement with jon Benet in his arms ,wrapped in a blanket..dead a garotte found near by.I think Burke did it too. Probably learned the deviant behavior watching the dad do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted January 20, 2016 #17 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Right, there is the male touch DNA on two different items of clothing JB had on that matched.I to have had many theories on this case, but when it comes down to it, I can believe it was one perp that had the intention to kidnapped, got into the house wrote the note, lay it on the steps, went up a Taser JB carrying her out, but she woke up and screamed ( a neighbor heard the scream )hit her with a mag flash light (the indentation in her head fit the tool) he then decided to kill her. I can also believe it was someone that had a grudge against John Ramsey for money a bad deal.I do think the Ramsey's knew who it might be, but was in fear of a threat to their son, if they did reveal or suggest who it may be. Edited January 20, 2016 by docyabut2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deirdre Alexandra143 Posted January 20, 2016 #18 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Not buying the intruder story... I used to live in Colorado... At the time of the murder... The intruder would have had to trudge thru a heck alot of snow.. Be bundled up to stave off the cold.. And in such winter attire.. Still be able to wedge themselves in thru a window with many layers of clothing on. Not buying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted January 20, 2016 #19 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Be bundled up to stave off the cold.. And in such winter attire.. Still be able to wedge themselves in thru a window with many layers of clothing on. In the first place, I don't think it could be conclusively determined where/how the perp entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincennes Posted January 20, 2016 Author #20 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Not buying the intruder story... I used to live in Colorado... At the time of the murder... The intruder would have had to trudge thru a heck alot of snow.. Be bundled up to stave off the cold.. And in such winter attire.. Still be able to wedge themselves in thru a window with many layers of clothing on. Not buying it. You really should at least take a look at some of the photos before you comment. There was barely enough snow on the ground to retain footprints and in some places no snow at all. http://crimeshots.com/CrimeScene3.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen_jacobs Posted January 21, 2016 #21 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Ok, ill bite. I can think of no one other than family or close friend. What is or was the motive? Means and opportunity, yes, but motive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deirdre Alexandra143 Posted January 21, 2016 #22 Share Posted January 21, 2016 And what about the taser?it was from the Ramsey household. And how about the fact that the police not that long ago.. Wanted to ask Burke some things.. Not in an interrogation manner..and Burke refused. This whole intruder story is crap. To trudge thru the snow shimmy into the basement..and use a taser on her..do you realise how loud tasers are?also ..prior to the murder.. Burke had hit Jon Benet in the head with a hockey stick. He liked to torture his sister. And I believe he or someone else took it further than that..and that Patsy the ex beauty queen did not want to have a tarnished image of her family.. So she wrote the ransom note .she was icy cold. So was the dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deirdre Alexandra143 Posted January 21, 2016 #23 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Also..no one goes and attacks a little girl over money. It doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deirdre Alexandra143 Posted January 21, 2016 #24 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Motive?..what do you mean? She was tortured sexually assaulted tasered and strangled with a garotte sadistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antilles Posted January 21, 2016 #25 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Here we go with another the Ramseys did it witch hunt. They didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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